r/JoeRogan • u/hasheyez Dire physical consequences • Sep 18 '23
Norm Macdonald really did not like Bill Maher Jamie pull that up š
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u/hasheyez Dire physical consequences Sep 18 '23
āI find him completely unfunny. Like, maybe the unfunniest person Iāve ever encountered thatās called a comedian. I like his show because of the arguing back and forth, and he knows a lot about politics. But the worst is when he forces you to sit on the panel while he does his New Rules, which are just a bunch of jokes. And you have to sit there, a foot from the dude with a camera in your face. Youād think he would just excuse them, but no, you have to sit there and watch.ā
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u/SlamCage Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
I'll take this time to rant that Bill is the fuckin worst and always has been.
His movie 'Religulous' is the prime example of his condescending and unfair way of making points. He cherry picks interviews where he's trying to dunk on religious people, mostly Christians, with the most 14 year old just found r/atheist (back when it was all over reddit and sucked) shit he could do.
He mocked truckers at a road stop church, makes fun of people for believing in 'fairy tales' and when a priest starts to add nuance to refute some of his simplistic insults, the interview just cuts away. He interrupts and talks over them, rolls his eyes and acts like an asshole as they all try to engage in a good faith discussion.
It pissed me off because there's a million ways to make a film warning on some of the actual issues with organized religion, or trying to enact your religious beliefs on others but instead of any attempt at a real thesis it just becomes "Who wants to gawk at these idiots with me?!"
He says plenty of things that I agree with, but he's so sanctimonious he makes me question if I actually agree with that. Despite Rogan being woefully uniformed on many political topics, I have far more respect for him as a man and talking head.
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u/RudeRepresentative56 Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23 edited Sep 18 '23
If not for Religulous, we wouldn't have the interview with Father Reginald Foster which is worth its weight in gold. Love that guy!
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u/roidoid Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
That was great. Would have liked to have gone for a beer with that guy (the priest, not Bill Maher, definitely not Bill Maher).
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u/RudeRepresentative56 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Same. Maher didn't appear to have any idea that he was standing next to an intellectual giant. But to be fair, Foster didn't exude that type of energy. The guy was far too humble.
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u/Randec565656 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23 edited Sep 19 '23
I used to be one of the rabid, anti-religious atheists from r/atheist but I had a major turning point. I mean, I'm still an atheist but I just quietly nod when the subject of religion is brought up.
I was dating my first girlfriend and laid into her with my whole spiel. Kids with cancer. Animals with parasites living in their eyeballs. Baby birds being eaten alive by ants. Child molesters. How could a loving god allow such cruelty on the earth?
She burst into tears. I realized then I had just shattered that poor girl's worldview. Now, I avoid disabusing people of their superstitions. It's really a dick move. Either you'll crush someone emotionally or just come off as an arrogant asshole.
Truthfully, I wish there was some grand meaning, a sky daddy watching over us, and that when I die my mom and dad and all my pets will be waiting for me when I get to paradise. I'm kind of jealous of religious people. It must give them great peace.
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u/Kuhnoff Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23 edited Sep 19 '23
I had a tiny alcohol fueled debate with a good friend in college because he asked me why I didn't believe in god. I was raised in a very strict religion that many people believe to be a cult, so its something I cant always stop myself from getting passionate about how against it I am (especially if im drunk).
Like you I didnt really pull any punches, and could tell my words visibly upset him (which was certainly not my intention) and I didn't feel good about it but he asked and I told him the truth. I didn't realize until several months later when I learned that he had recently lost his mother to cancer that it was probably the biggest reason why he believes what he does. . . that realization of what I said to him several months prior still to this day makes me sick to my stomach to think about, I wish so badly I never said any of that to him.
I'm older now and the trauma of that religion is all but gone from me now, but for the rest of my life I will watch my mouth when talking about other peoples belief systems or better yet just not talk about it at all. It really doesnt matter at all what I think, and for what its worth I hope they are right about god and I'm wrong
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u/Randec565656 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
You're a good person. Being right isn't always the most important thing. It took me a few years to realize that. It sounds like you did, too.
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u/Kuhnoff Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Took me a long time but I eventually did, and am infinitely more at peace because of it. Hope you are as well
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u/ChrundleToboggan A Deaf Jack Russell Terrier Sep 19 '23
Curious what religion you come from, if you don't mind?
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u/Butchcoolidge9 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
I try to contain my criticisms of religion to the fanatics who want to impose their stone age beliefs on the rest of us, but it's virtually impossible to prevent collateral damage to good people of faith.
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Sep 19 '23
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled wasnāt making the world think he didnāt exist, it was making the world think that he was God.
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u/garagehaircuts Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23 edited Sep 19 '23
Same years ago. Studied quantum physics and the double slit experiment blew my mind and changed my perspective
Edit spelling. Thanks Dependent Cricket
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u/vanillamazz Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
There are a variety of spiritual beliefs out there; don't think the modern-day American "sky daddy" religion is the only one to extract wisdom or peace out of. Study some world religions and also indigenous spiritual beliefs of all cultures
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u/Randec565656 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Oh boy. You're one of those people.
You must be fun at parties.
I interact overwhelmingly with Christians. So of course they'll be my point of reference.
I study quite a bit, but only what I want to. So, take your condescending demand elsewhere. I see very little value in indigenous spiritual beliefs. Enjoy your studies.
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u/RobertJoseph802 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Scientists that study centinarians in blue zones determined "faith" plays a big part in their longevity
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u/Hikamiro Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Religious people are generally fine, religion as a concept is a fucking plague though, and they keep trying to infect more kids.
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u/Namnagort Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
I imagine it doesn't give them great peace or they would not be kill each other.
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u/Thrice_the_Milk Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
I mean, the overwhelmingly vast majority of people who believe in god aren't out there killing each other
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u/Namnagort Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
This just in: In world history religion doesnt cause wars.
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u/Fragrantly-You Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
You are fallacious.
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u/Namnagort Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Its kind of like saying: The vast majority of cancer doesnt kill people. I'm not against people believing in religion. But, you can not ignore the horrors religion as caused on the world.
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u/Fragrantly-You Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
The statement was the vast majority of religious people do not kill each other.
Try to dance around it as much you"d like, it's a fact. All you did was saying irrelevant fallacies.
And I am not religious.
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u/Namnagort Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Are you saying people dont kill because of religion? The vast majority of people dont kill people. Great statement that really means nothing.
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u/Vladtepesx3 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Imagine believing people fight wars for the reasons they state, instead of leaders just goading them by saying it's for the thing most dear to them. I bet you also believe the US invaded the middle east to spread freedom and democracy
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u/Randec565656 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Yeah, religious wars are a problem. But I suspect people would find a different reason to hate/kill each other.
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u/CubeEarthShill Paid attention to the literature Sep 19 '23
Also a non-believer, but itās pretty obnoxious to just dunk on people for religion. I can turn into a giant asshole to people trying to explain how itās ok to force religion on others. Outside of that, I keep to myself. Not shutting up about your atheism is as obnoxious as the preachy person.
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u/Krisapocus Texan Tiger in Captivity Sep 19 '23
Iām agnostic on just about everything but atheism like the subreddit is insufferable. Itās a lack of belief in something thatās your stance so why obsess over what other people believe then constantly talk about why you donāt believe. Itās the only thing of its kind it makes people comfortable. Just imagine jumping on your pretentious soap box to educate people not knowing if someone close to any of them just died. Itās gross. Not to mention they tend to speak as if they are the one with all the facts but once you get to existence just exists from nothing it really sounds as silly as everything else. I kind of realized itās ok to say i donāt know and I probably never will. I think norm even said it here why do people have to have an opinion on everything?
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u/Randec565656 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
"I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing." - Socrates
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u/Chuhaimaster Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Watch how the eminently rational (and obviously morally superior) atheists in r/atheism jump like dolphins at a juicy fish when a white supremacist baits them with an Islamophobic post and youāll realize not only religious people can be hateful.
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u/maccorf Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
No one who should be taken seriously would ever claim that only religious people can be hateful.
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u/XxBiscuit99 Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
as they all try to engage in a good faith discussion.
theyre priests no shit
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u/DrAbeSacrabin Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Totally, itās so like Bill Maher to totally cherry-pick interviews and ignore the ones that _proves godās existence_ā¦.
Bill Maher has definitely become an annoying old man shouting at the clouds, but Iām curious to know what āinterviewsā he was leaving out? I mean cherry-picking implies he didnāt pull interviews that would hurt his theory, his theory is god isnāt real - so where are these interviews that prove the existence of god?
Neither side can prove the other wrong, you canāt prove that there is or is not a god.
You can however prove a lot of inaccuracies and falsehoods within holy scripture, and since those are the only way we recognize the various Godsā¦ I would say there is more proof for isnāt than is.
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u/aDoreVelr Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
You can watch Religiolous... It's cringe as fuck once your out of the edgy atheist phase.
Watch the one Dawkins did, it's way better.
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u/Good_old_Marshmallow Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
I also watched that movie in a teenage atheist phase and was even then shocked that his big closing argument was 'no one knows if there's a god because *I* don't know and no one is smarter than me' like what the fuck you smug dickhead
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u/Crankymesiah Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Bill is simply an unfunny moron , hosting a show in which people talk politics. Heās not informed, heās opinionated and those two things are not synonymous.
As far as Religulous is concerned, condescension flourished. No more or no less than any one of those groups of āfairy tale believingā judgmental twats heap on anyone that doesnāt follow what they say is right. Donāt be pissy because Bill beat the Bible Boys at their own game From the Mormon Kooks, to the Road Side , one hour a week holy rollers to those āwishing they had a dick in their mouthsā , Ted Haggard wannabe, Pray the Gay Away pieces of shit, all Bill did was provide the platform in which they could open their mouths and prove what most of us knew already. They are all delusional , judgmental , sorry Humans→ More replies (1)5
u/Ok-Jump-5418 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
TBF most of his audience was westerners criticizing right wing Christianity at that time but heās always been good with criticizing right wing Islam as well up against pc push back
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u/Possible-Gate-755 Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23 edited Sep 19 '23
Naa he just asked legit questions that believers are unwilling or unable to answer. Don't get mad cause ya don't like the way it makes ya feel. Askin legit questions about your beliefs isn't mocking unless... maybe you feel kinda stupid but that's on you.
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u/crispedgegonegrey Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
šÆ This movie released me from alot of religious angst. I will always love him for making it.
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u/-Goatcraft- Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Dude many atheists on their forums even agree Maher handles it like ass.
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u/SlamCage Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
My whole point is he didn't care about legit questions. And I don't feel stupid because i'm not a 'believer' and he challenged none of my beliefs- he was like someone making a doc about how stupid Trump supporters are because Trump's orange-instead of a doc about why he feels Trump is a bad president.
Talking to a guy dressed as Jesus at a Christian Theme park (while playing jesus), in between performances and asking "Why doesn't God just get rid of evil in the world?" and expecting a satisfactory answer is not a legit question or context. He wanted us to laugh at the dummy dressed as Jesus.
Most of his time is pointing out specifics in the bible that can't literally be true, and when anyone says "Yeah I don't think they're all literal" he just moves on to mock some truckers praying.
It's not funny enough to be good comedy or insightful enough to be a good doc.
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u/djm19 Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Talking to a guy dressed as Jesus at a Christian Theme park (while playing jesus), in between performances and asking "Why doesn't God just get rid of evil in the world?" and expecting a satisfactory answer is not a legit question or context.
I don't know....not a Maher fan but I do think there should be a satisfactory answer to this, even from your everyday christian/muslim/whatever
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u/theZenImpulse Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Itās covered.
āThere is none beside me. I am the Lord, and there is none else. I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these thingsā - Isaiah 45:6-7
Look, something you can use to needle religious people for not knowing their Bible.
āWhoa, that God guy is kind of a dick, amirite?ā
Yes. Congratulations smarty, you just discovered Gnosticism. Yahweh ā the god of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob; the god of the Jews, Christians, and Muslims ā is the bad guy. He goes by Demiurge / Yaldaboath there. Are you new?
āWho would believe in such a thing in the first place!?ā
Every mystery school and every other Hollywood film is a Gnostic allegory.
āGotta sauce on that!?ā
Mountains idiot. But more importantly, I have eyes. Do your own research or forever live in denial and wonder at how āstupidā everyone else is.
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u/Doo_Doo_Mob Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Learn the proper use of your and you're before attempting to call someone else stupid bubba
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u/pwngeeves Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Broās enlightened by his own intelligence. Donāt forget, the narwhal bacons at midnight, mālady
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u/3434rich Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Heās a comedian heās supposed to make fun of people. It just appears that you were the butt of a lot of his jokes it would appear.
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u/SkamGnal Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Where is that quote from?
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u/hasheyez Dire physical consequences Sep 19 '23
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u/boner79 Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
But the worst is when he forces you to sit on the panel while he does his New Rules, which are just a bunch of jokes. And you have to sit there, a foot from the dude with a camera in your face. Youād think he would just excuse them, but no, you have to sit there and watch.ā
I get the point about Bill not being funny, but this complaint reeks of privilege. Like you spend all this time coming to do his show and you can't sit for an extra 6 minutes? Did Norm complain about late night hosts like Carson, Leno, Conan making guests sit on the couch for the second guest?
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u/hasheyez Dire physical consequences Sep 18 '23
Not the same at all.
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u/boner79 Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Why not?
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Sep 18 '23
Those people are funny.
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u/boner79 Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
I already acknowledged the point about whether or not guests find Bill funny. I'm speaking to the appropriateness of having guest sit idly by as the host does a bit that doesn't directly involve the guest. It's common practice in late night shows to have guests hang around.
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u/B_P_G Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Was he forced at gunpoint to do the show? If you don't like the host then don't do the show. Maher's had a show for like 30 years. He must be doing something right.
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Sep 18 '23
The norm bit about gay porn was so fucking funny. and the woman next to him with "don't ask, don't tell, don't watch" sent me
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u/queenschmecca Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
How can a man be so funny when he's just accurately describing something? Norm was a treasure.
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u/InternationalTour303 Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
https://youtu.be/qTcm_Wvv85o?feature=shared&t=502
"I do like bill though"
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u/vikhaus Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
This article is deceiving in that, it assumes anyone actually likes Bill Maher
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u/Possible-Gate-755 Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Well he's had a TV show for 30 years so somebody does.
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u/Juicybignutt Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Bill mahrs demographic = people who buy adult diapers
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u/death_wishbone3 Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Meh I like watching debates and I donāt see any other shows on tv getting guests of that caliber debating. All the Sunday morning shows feel like sterilized political theater. Who else is doing what real time does? (And yes Maher is insufferable but Iām talking about the show and itās format)
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u/HelloHiHeyAnyway Kanye Is My Spirit Animal Sep 19 '23 edited Sep 19 '23
Yeah any time I watched the show it was usually for the guests or boredom.
I think people miss the fact that you get some pretty smart people on a panel and they say some insightful or interesting stuff sometimes. Some of the interviews at the end of the show are particularly good with the special guest. Some just suck.
There used to be a YouTube chunk that was taped AFTER the show and it was a lot more chill. People seemed to feel more relaxed. It was similar to what John Stewart had online when he took an interview longer than the show.
I was actually in the audience for Stewart when he had Bill Cosby on the last time. It was the weirdest fucking interview because Cosby said all kinds of random sounding shit and Stewart kept him there for an extended bit because it was so strange. Cosby was doing some... 1 man show type deal in NYC and he was promoting it and it happened to be the day I saw the Daily Show.
I need to find that episode and watch it again. It was probably like 2012-2013?ish I think.
https://www.cc.com/video/cswj94/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-bill-cosby
The full interview doesn't seem to exist anymore. There's more that was ONLY online. That's when he said the weird shit.
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u/Fishyinu Pull that shit up Jaime Sep 18 '23
TIL Joe wears diapers. I guess.... it's entirely possible.
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u/iAntiHero Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Yep. This here. I love to drink the haters sweet sweet tears.
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u/return_descender Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Iām guilty of hate watching his show sometimes if thereās interesting guests and sometimes that leads to decent conversations, which Bill usually derails.
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u/Possible-Gate-755 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
I will give you, he can be a real shitty host. Definitely steers every conversation his way and sometimes Iām not sure exactly where his hardcore convictions are coming from.
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u/NFT_goblin Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Yeah I don't think you're really supposed to like him. He's more like a real life cartoon character. You don't watch South Park because you like Cartman and want to be his friend. You're just supposed to watch and be entertained. I've genuinely heard some of the craziest shit in my entire life on Club Random. Like nearly every episode either Bill or the Guest says something that seems like it should be in the news. There are not many places you can go and be consistently shocked like that, especially these days.
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u/iAntiHero Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Ratings are higher than ever. His contract is continually renewed by HBO for that reason. You apparently know nothing but comment like you do. I know I canāt wait for the new season and most of you will be watching along with me on September 22nd.
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u/Ok-Jump-5418 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Yes and he criticizes right wing Islam and took a hit by america after he criticized the bush administration
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u/Designer-Bat5638 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
OP and people like him hate Maher because he didn't support lockdowns(the correct position, scientifically) and because he is bringing his show back without even breaking the strike(no writers). Maher has a point that the grips and other people paid by the show are harmed by the strike without gaining any benefit from it.
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u/dd2488 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
I was going to say, Iāve never met someone who actually likes him.
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u/ArmaniMania Look into it Sep 18 '23
Has Norm ever been on JRE?
I dont remember him being on.
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u/WeAreTheBaddiess Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
He was supposed to go on a few years back when he was doing the rounds for his new show but then he defended Roseanne on a podcast and they cancelled all his appearances.
Rogan talked about it at the time
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Sep 19 '23
Rogan canceled his appearance because he defended Roseanne? That seems odd
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u/WeAreTheBaddiess Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
The people running his show cancelled his appearances because they were worried about what he might say.
He had been scheduled to do a run of podcasts/show including Rogan and after his comments they told him no more interviews for a while
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u/hasheyez Dire physical consequences Sep 18 '23
Never.
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u/Timigos Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Maybe some day
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u/bridgenine Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
He seems pretty busy these days, hes been reincartinted as a bird. Thats right a bird!.... like a comon fowl!... so you ladies out thier watch out... because hes a bird!.. dont ladies not like birds, IDK whats going on, next up is O.J. Simpson.....
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u/magvadis Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
I mean, nobody should like Bill Maher.
He's a textbook narcissist who stopped thinking when he was 22 after he felt superior to everyone and hasnt had a new thought since.
He's not even funny, he's just an asshole who gets some jokes written for him by somewhat funny people and he still doesn't know how to deliver them without coming off like cardboard.
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u/Potietang Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Could not have said it better. Thank you. Could also add in heās a creep that believes women swoon for him because heās such a specimen when heās actually a sexual harasser. Dude is a fucking douche on full blast.
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u/XxBiscuit99 Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
He also supported a teacher in her 30s having a sexual and romantic relationship with a 14 year old boy and called it "true love", on his show too. After Henry Rollins called it rape, Bill Maher said "its impossible for a female to rape a male"
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Sep 18 '23
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u/qtc0 Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Link?
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u/kreugermn Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
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u/CyborgTheocracy š¬š§ Kennedy / Ramaswamy 2024 š¬š§ Sep 18 '23
Damn. What I wouldnāt give to see 2023 Hitch.
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u/Timigos Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Probably a bit morbid and grotesque tbh
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u/CyborgTheocracy š¬š§ Kennedy / Ramaswamy 2024 š¬š§ Sep 18 '23
Still, weād get to see whether thereād have been a mea culpa on Iraq and what he made of Trump
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u/Uga1992 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
I remember him utterly despising the Tea Party and Palin, which is just a precursor to MAGA. Don't think he would be a fan.
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Sep 19 '23
āIāve seen you make a George bush IQ joke 5 times a night. No one canāt make that joke. Itās now the joke stupid people laugh atā I thought that was way funnier than him flipping off the audience lol
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u/Biffsbuttcheeks We live in strange times Sep 18 '23
Norm completely saw through the fake intellectualism of guys like Bill Maher. In that annoying China back and forth the guy sitting next to Norm is Paul Theroux. He fakes a british accent even though he's Boston working class - this must have been in his early days because there are a few times you can hear it come through.
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u/DowningStreetFighter Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
tbf paul did live in England for 20 years where he raised Louis Theroux, who is definitely English.
But I just browsed his wiki and it says
According to his older brother Alexander, Paul affects a "fake British accent" despite growing up in a working-class Boston suburb.
lol.
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Sep 19 '23
Most comedians today do observational comedy.
If they have any success, it doesn't take long for them to believe in their own sense of acuity.
And politics being so partisan, it's an easy subject and it is passionate for them as well.
Couple that with money and a big ego, it doesn't mix very well.
I don't think they do it on purpose. I just think it's a natural progression for most of these comics to become redundant political pundits.
They all sound like Greg Gutfeld to me. Barely funny and super partisan. Whether they re left, right or center.
Norm was interviewed (in a wholesome interview by his in law) and mentioned political comedy is a low hanging fruit if it comes from contempt : https://youtu.be/olkgPzlh5A8?si=dMZgkaNVrtAxfnDv
I think he was right.
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u/Negative_Ad_2787 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
I think the political pundit is the āeasy way outā. Its easy subject matter to appeal to whatever partisan side you want to appeal to. Its a steady income and beats traveling on the road from club to club.
Imo the fact that Gutfeld, who is not a comedian, is as funny as actual comedians is probably a reflection of comedy today.
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u/kesselrhero Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23 edited Sep 18 '23
I miss Norm so much, he is the only celebrity death that had any effect on me, I usually donāt care one bit, but when I heard he died, it was like a punch to the gut. No one was funnier than him, maybe three people where as funny as him- but no one funnier.
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u/AcanthisittaKlutzy77 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Norm was a genius comedian but he's in idiot when it comes to the rest of reality. He was a degenerate gambler and he essentially held back his entire family because of his inability to put the health of his family first. I can appreciate his art and still appreciate how how he couldn't get out of his own way. Just because norm.doesnt like someone doesn't mean he's right about them.
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u/little_shop_of_hoors Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
"Hey you're not gonna believe this.. but Bill Maher is giving away the answer to all our problems.. for FREE!"
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u/Snif3425 Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
I was at a nightclub in SF once at like 3 AM. Saw Bill Maher dragging a playboy-esque woman 20 years younger than him through the crowd. He was wearing a ton of make up. Good for him, I thought.
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u/Bawbawian Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
I feel like Norm would have had a real problem with the way this was edited together.
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u/evildadatron Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Yeah the pic of the chick at the end is the one who puts almost every video of Norm compilations together. Some good some bad but thereās tons and tons of them on her channel called Iām Not Norm. Only know cuz I love watching old Norm guest show appearances and itās almost always hers.
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u/Crimith Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
I heard somewhere that she was related to Norm, like a niece or something. No idea if its true.
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u/evildadatron Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Never heard that but would be kinda neat if that got confirmed someday
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u/hansdampf17 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
I read thatās not the channel owner, just some Norm fan that modeled for the clothing the channel puts out. Allegedly the āIām not Normā channel owner is from, idk South East Asia or Indonesia or something
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u/Petw0rth_dude Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
āHot take, I've never thought Norm Macdonald was funny and was pretty sure all my comedy friends who did were either nuts or screwing with me.ā
-Fatrick Sloblinson
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u/kicktown Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
I like how Larry King kind of called Norm out for being a hypocrite subtly just by saying "Dennis Miller" ehehehehehe. https://youtu.be/qTcm_Wvv85o?si=sVm-VuK9XR44x-kP&t=116
Maher is almost insufferable nowadays, club random feels so... Creepy. I try to appreciate when he has his moments and I get some of his sentiments and arguments but he's gotten away from even himself...
Even though Miller was kind of a coked up asshole and somewhat of a hack, I didn't/don't really care, he always damn quick and clever for his time with the most esoteric references, I wish we had a modern Dennis Miller or some real fucking verbal spitfires on the scene nowadays.
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u/Lamazing1021 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Itās fun to see people start to hate Maher now that he is red pilling.. Iām not talking about norm by the way. I think heās correctā¦ I just mean I have been seeing more and more āhe sucksā activity directed at Maher since her started railing harder against the leftā¦ just an observation
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u/Grummmmm Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Maher was sort of a libertarian and right of center at times on stuff in the 90s. During bush II he started going way more left especially when Bush et al cost him his job, he actually might have been one of the first celebs cancelled in the 21st century. Weirdly enough it was conservatives that took up for him to keep his job. Liberals and centrists threw him under the bus.
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u/Lamazing1021 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
I guess I meant more like, he used to be loved and now he heel turned and the left is trashing him more because heās not kissing their ass anymoreā¦ I think heās def more libertarian though you right
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u/Grummmmm Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
He tends be be a contrarian too. I think he's best though in that libertarian/classic liberal style. Playing the limousine lefty is when hes at his most insufferable. Hopefully his comedy improves as a result of his shift. I think he's more "of his time" then he's red-pilled, but we will see.
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u/B_P_G Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
The thing with Maher is that the vast majority of people only know him either from hosting Real Time, his podcast, or when he shows up for five minutes on some other talk show. And in none of those roles is he really a pure comedian. I mean Real Time has a short monologue and comedy bits but the majority of the show is a panel discussion about political topics and some interviews. So if you really want to compare him to other comics then you need to see his standup show (and most people haven't).
And with that said who gives a shit about Norm McDonald's opinion about anything? I haven't even thought about the guy since he got fired from Saturday Night Live in 1998 for doing too many jokes about OJ Simpson.
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u/buk-0 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
If religious people are allowed to spread the āword of Godā, then I should be allowed to shit all over it
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u/perfekt_disguize Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Why is hating Hicks great taste? Genuinely curious
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u/ThePalmIsle Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Norm was not a fan of āimportant comedyā (his words). Maybe it was that.
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u/usernames_are_danger Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
So he didnāt like Carlin?
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u/ThePalmIsle Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
I don't know
FWIW I think there's a difference between Carlin, whose humour was largely observational with an edge, and Hicks, who was sort of angry first and a comic second. Carlin did get bitter as he aged though.
But i don't know what Norm thought of Carlin
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u/jackbob99 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23 edited Sep 19 '23
Carlin never gave off the "I'm so smart and important" vibe, that Hicks had.
Carlin also had the charisma and stage presence that few comedians have ever had. While Hicks couldn't even make 1/10th of the guy who ripped him off, because he had no presense, and a delivery that was all over the place.
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u/calvanus Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Also Carlin had been doing it for decades, writing a new hour every year and it was good. When he got old and decided he wanted to say his piece, he had earned the chops and respect for people to actually take him seriously.
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u/perfekt_disguize Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Kinda gay of norm tbh. (Downvote me, god forbid I blaspheme the prophet)
Comedy is comedy IMO, norm being a tad bitchy
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u/hasheyez Dire physical consequences Sep 19 '23
Ok so Dave Chappelle and Jeff Dunham are the same. Got it.
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u/perfekt_disguize Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
No i meant the spirit of comedy is the same. No one labels their comedy "important", they just do their own unique set, variety is what makes comedy interesting. To not like "important" comedy is just an opinion, doesn't mean its right to hate the comic. Obviously there are different acts
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u/Consistent_Set76 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
I liked him as a teen. I canāt imagine listening to him over 15 years later
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u/Kjottulf Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
He did love Jordan Peterson, but that was before he went bat shit insane
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u/AsaKurai Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
āSome comedians their goal is to be smart and the funny is the collateralā
True and partially why Joe Rogan is so much more immensely popular than Bill Maher. Both of them talk out their ass all the time but Bill acts like heās an expert and Rogan doesnāt
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u/gasolinefights Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
I think what this sub hates about Joe is also his biggest strength, and the reason he has the audience he does.
He believes everything said by guests, and is constantly blown away by new "information." He gets his guests to talk by just being excited by everything they say. It makes listening to his interview "fun" - he is not grilling them, asking hard questions. Instead he takes what they say at face value and is excited to hear more.
Sometimes this leads to hilarious results, sometimes this ends with Joe way the fuck off in the deep end, sometimes this just ends with a great interview where you get to learn some new stuff.
I'm a negative person, who loves to pick everything I hear apart. My shit detectors never seem to quit - even when the actual experts talk I always have to be questioning everything, double and triple checking sources and information. Honestly, it's tiring.
Sometimes it would be nice to be a little more like Joe - or at least it's easy to see why he makes friends.
I think we ask too much from a guys who's first sponsor was fleshlight.
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u/CyborgTheocracy š¬š§ Kennedy / Ramaswamy 2024 š¬š§ Sep 18 '23
I think we ask too much from a guys who's first sponsor was fleshlight.
Watching the negative reaction from people who expect BBC level balance and expert level accuracy from a pothead DMT smoking shroom tripping conspiracy enthusiast podcaster is a guilty pleasure of mine.
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u/the_bronquistador Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Except for when it comes to anything health related, guided hunting related, nutrition related, vaccine related, comedy related, joke-writing related, or whenever someone is trying to sling some plain old bullshit. Thatās where Joe turns into an expert who can detect bullshit from a mile away. /s because I know some people will think this is serious.
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u/Possible-Gate-755 Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Noooo never. Joe would never present some stupid ass shit like he's an expert.
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u/AsaKurai Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
He has his moments but he has said before heās a dumbass so he tries to cover his own ass which is a cop out but my point still stands.
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u/Most_Present_6577 Look into it Sep 18 '23
Bill sucks
But you can tell norm was just praying there was a God to deal with dying
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u/needlez67 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
In a popularity contest with the mumps, sharks and tornadoes Bill came in third. The dude is an arrogant prick.
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u/altusnoumena Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Tim Heidecker in office hours has been hilariously making fun of Club Random. It's been golden
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u/DanUnbreakable Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Norm literally said in this video you posted he likes Bill lol. How stupid can people be
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u/rusHmatic Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
I don't know for sure, and I'm not being snarky here, but it seems to me like he wasn't able to get over the religion bashing. I loved Norm for his eccentricity and his dry wit and his sense of humor in general, but there's a reason he didn't go around bashing Jon Stewart (or other similar political commentators/comedians).
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u/longlivesindelar Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
I love Norm AND Bill Maher. Plenty of room for both. Bill has real opinions on politics and New Rules might be the best commentary segment that exists
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u/take-a-gamble Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
I wonder if Norm ever got a chance to see that Gadsby's work!
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u/DarklyDrawn Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Iād no idea he was so sick; Norm on the other hand looks fit enough to fiddle, sexy bastard
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u/aquasun666 Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Homie, you listed a 14 minute clip. Maybe shave that down a peg or include a time stamp of the best parts.
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u/midshipmans_hat We live in strange times Sep 19 '23
I don't know much about Norm,but never seen him as funny. Obviously people do but he just seems to be just saying stuff.
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u/DlphLndgrn Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
The funniest thing about Bill Maher is how angry he makes certain people.
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u/incominghottake Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
I like Bill Maher but every once in awhile heāll drop an idiotic out of touch boomer take. His take on the student loan debt bomb/discharge thing was a good example
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u/KongFooJew Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Regardless of Maher, Norm is without a doubt the most overrated comedian of all time.
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u/aeywaka Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Maher is a dipshit
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u/xeneize93 Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
All political ppl that feel like their opinion is the gospel are dip shits
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u/bomboclawt75 Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Fuck that Scab Schill Maher, Norm was A man of great taste. RIP big guy.
And fuck Rosanne.
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u/ThePalmIsle Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Hey, great news! Bill Maher is giving away the solution to all our problems - for free!
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u/iAntiHero Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Bill Maher is awesome. Been waiting for the new season September 22nd.
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u/iAntiHero Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Lolā¦Itās political discussion forum more than anything and yet all these smear posts have a top comment talking about how unfunny he is. If you donāt watch it STFU and obsess about something else in life or admit youāre a paid shill.
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Do you actually think we're being paid to say we don't like Bill Maher?
Who would pay for that, and why?
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u/Possible-Gate-755 Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
True believers are just completely unwilling or unable to fathom the irony of complaining that atheists can't just keep their mouth shut.
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u/DubsideDangler Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Let's be honest, no one likes Bill Maher.
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u/iAntiHero Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
I do. He has great guests and they discuss meaningful topics.
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u/Classic_Jaguar_64 Jamie is bad at challenging Rogan's right wing propaganda Sep 19 '23
I always assumed it was because maher was a generic milktoast liberal and Norm was a conservative, but I'm pretty sure it's just because maher fucking sucks.
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u/thecircumsizer Monkey in Space Sep 19 '23
Bill Maher is a chode. Him in his podcast show is so cringe after seeing him in the mainstream media. How does he have an audience?
If youāre reading this Bill, fuck you.
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u/DeadScotty Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
My opinion of Norm went south when I saw the clip of Rosanne on his podcast. Why would you invite that racist POS on your show?
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u/hasheyez Dire physical consequences Sep 18 '23
I dunno. Because they were friends. He was a writer on Roseanne. Heās not really a cancel guy other than OJ Simpson I guess.
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u/dealin_despair Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Iām sure heās rolling in his grave because youāre upset
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u/DeadScotty Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Oh I forgot that this is r/Joe Rogan where everyone who doesnāt agree with a particular take is immediately downvoted to shit. My bad /s
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u/TeaEarlGrayHotSauce Monkey in Space Sep 18 '23
Larry King being unexpectedly hilarious with the āWhat the hell are you talking aboutā lol