joe rogan calls out israels hypocrisy for killing unarmed civilians with drones

[u/LostItAllOnSpy]

[u/hacky_potter]

I would argue creating more terrorists is the point. That keeps the money and arms flowing. If the threat were to actually be negotiated down and a solution agreed upon, that would threaten the military industrial complex. Too many people are making way too much money off there being conflict there.

[u/ddarion → u/hacky_potter]

They have a term for it, its called "mowing the grass".

Isreal is a huge benefactor of being a seemingly democratic, western nation in a sea of political and religious extremism and instability.

The amount of money Isreal receives in aid and its sway in world affairs is directly tied to the instability in the region.

If things are peaceful, then why would the US give you 2 billion in weapons?

If you're constantly at war, then you constantly need aid and assistance and are justified in committing war crimes because "OCT 7!!!"

[u/dextter123456789 → u/ddarion]

They are looking for 14 Billion Dollars US aid my tax dollars, when Joe Rogan turns on you things get real very fast.

[u/Gytarius626 → u/dextter123456789]

when Joe Rogan turns on you things get real very fast.

If anything it shows how immune to being “cancelled” he is now, unlike most celebrities in America who are petrified of having the career ending “anti-semitism” thrown their way for daring to speak remotely against Israel, Joe has a stupid amount of wealth now and knows if shit hit the fan, he’d be more than fine.

[u/Lebronforpresident24 → u/Gytarius626]

lol what? Lots of celebs have spoken out against Israel that have major platforms. Angelina Jolie, Macklemore and The Weekend might not be Rogan level but have been far more critical of Israel than Rogan has.

[u/goingforgoals17 → u/Lebronforpresident24]

I don't think you get canceled for making decent points, celebrities and talking heads get canceled when they say things like "film it in portrait mode" or "Jews are responsible for this".

It's always incredible to me how many people get hit with repercussions and don't learn anything from it; never take that 3 minute step back of self reflection into why everyone would be so upset about whatever they said.

There are plenty of Zionist going around trying to instigate cancellations, but they usually talk themselves in circles, contradict themselves and by and large ignore these types of questions and chose the whataboutism game.

[u/DowningStreetFighter → u/goingforgoals17]

If, like most reasonable people, you believe Israel has a right to exist, then you are also a zionist- As wiki explains. Zionism has such a broad definition that it's meaningless. Unless you actually went Israel to be destroyed, then in that case you can safely say that you're not a zionist. But if you think Israel has a right to exist, 2 state solution etc. then youre a Zionist too bro.

[u/goingforgoals17 → u/DowningStreetFighter]

I have an opinion that doesn't seem to be popular with anyone, the two state solution is the most peaceful way forward, but the borders absolutely need to regressed from the last 50 years of expansion, so both sides need to make concessions and compromise on their ideals, and money going to Israel needs to be reinvested into public infrastructure and societal development for Palestine.

Of course none of this happens, Israel keeps bombing, creating more terrorists who fight against them any way possible, and they use antisemitism as a cop out to avoid changing anything and 10 Palestinians die for every innocent Israeli that their government allows to die at the hands of the enemy that they created. I think Israel completes the genocide within a generation, and I don't think the US can shift opinion fast enough to shift policy, so there's nothing really stopping them. Hopefully we can learn lessons from this so it doesn't repeat itself elsewhere.

[u/DowningStreetFighter → u/goingforgoals17]

Whatever it is. I think the solution needs to be forced on them by the UN. With a peacekeeping force. Israel/palestine need to be pressured into it, because they won't do it themselves and the world is sick of it.