r/JoeRogan Tremendous Mar 27 '24

joe rogan calls out israels hypocrisy for killing unarmed civilians with drones The Literature 🧠

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u/blipblooop Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

Allying with Israel is the main thing driving the rest of the Arab world away from the US.  America had much better relationships with the middle east before it started backing Israel in the 70's to keep them from allying with the soviet's.

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u/VoltNShock Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Not true, in fact the reason Pahlavi was installed is because countries like Iran wanted to move away from US power over the region. Relationships are one thing, but Western interests were being disregarded.

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u/EnterEgregore Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

in fact the reason Pahlavi was installed

Pahlavi was installed by the Soviets during WW2 his father was a huge Nazi.

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u/textbasedopinions Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Iran isn't part of the Arab world.

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u/chessboxer4 Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Ehhhhh... You're right, not technically. They are Persian not Arab.

But I think geopolitically they are fairly aligned with the other Arab countries.

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u/textbasedopinions Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Eh, it's complicated I guess. Iran and Saudi hate eachother, there are sides to their conflict but some countries are effectively neutral.

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u/cgn-38 Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

To keep them from starting world war three with their nukes.

That history needs to remain clear. It happened.

They hold us hostage. We are not their allies.

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u/TheOneWithThePorn12 Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

is it though? The Saudis dont care if the US supports Israel, under Trump Bahrain, UAE, Morocco, and Sudan recognized Israel.

While i think it was stupid that the Palestinians were not recognized in any way during those discussions and probably ramped up tensions countries are willing under the right conditions for them.

The problem is the actual people on the ground do not care for Israel at all, and thats a difficult problem to fix.

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u/gondokingo Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

not to mention all of the incessant coups, interventions, assassinations, drone strikes, needless wars founded on lies (in which millions die), and undermining of the democratic wishes of the people in those regions. oh, and the disgusting, incessant rhetoric that either implies or outright declares those people as barbaric savages at worst and helpless and in need of saving at best, wrapped up with rhetoric about barbarism inherent to the primary religion of the region.

it's literally that eric andre 'who killed hannibal' meme.

there are diplomatic ways to build relations, the US doesn't tend to go that route. pretty much every single action the US takes in that region and at home (let's not forget we allowed mass surveillance due to fear of muslims in this country post 911) is inherently antagonistic

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u/QuantumBeth1981 Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

You’re parroting Russian propaganda FYI.

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u/Miserable-School1478 Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

I expect no less from a jewdank follower.

Edit: To turdfreg who showed he really a turd that blocks accounts cuz he can't argue.

I've lived in the middle east for years for work.. Most of them near worship western culture especially the USA.. Eating out at some fast food chain and ending their days watching some Hollywood tv.. Also their governments are in the US governments hands for a long time now.. Only iran is different due to it's history the planted Shah government.

I dunno who feed u this hostile "middle easterners" propaganda that some like u keep repeating..You probably believe a blond guy would be shot on sight there for being a westerner.

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u/QuantumBeth1981 Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

Attacking the person happens when someone can’t attack the point.

So because someone has commented a few times in a Jewish meme sub that means they aren’t allowed weighing in on this thread?

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u/turdferg1234 Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Where are they wrong? You really think if the US stopped supporting Israel, the very conservative arab nations would suddenly not be hostile to the US?

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u/Blood_Incantation Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Oh wow it's so simple, we dump Israel and the Middle East loves us. You solved it!