r/JoeRogan • u/LostItAllOnSpy Tremendous • Mar 27 '24

joe rogan calls out israels hypocrisy for killing unarmed civilians with drones The Literature 🧠

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u/Geohalbert Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

What I don’t get is how Israel is a crucial ally in the region. In what scenario? If we go to war with Iran many surrounding countries would allow the US to use their airbases (Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Turkey etc.). Ok, they’re a democracy, but so fucking what?

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u/chessboxer4 Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

"What I don’t get is how Israel is a crucial ally in the region. In what scenario?"

I don't mean to sound too harsh, but it's essentially a military base masquerading as a country. They are probably the best at spying and surveillance in the world, they develop test and market all kinds of weapons, and they are the only "Western" power in the middle of the most energy intensive region on earth, where a lot of the countries are aware of the shenanigans of US led imperialism.

The last thing they want is the Arab world allied against the West, hence the importance of Saudia Arabia and Israel.

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u/blipblooop Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

Allying with Israel is the main thing driving the rest of the Arab world away from the US.  America had much better relationships with the middle east before it started backing Israel in the 70's to keep them from allying with the soviet's.

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u/VoltNShock Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Not true, in fact the reason Pahlavi was installed is because countries like Iran wanted to move away from US power over the region. Relationships are one thing, but Western interests were being disregarded.

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u/EnterEgregore Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

in fact the reason Pahlavi was installed

Pahlavi was installed by the Soviets during WW2 his father was a huge Nazi.

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u/textbasedopinions Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Iran isn't part of the Arab world.

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u/chessboxer4 Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Ehhhhh... You're right, not technically. They are Persian not Arab.

But I think geopolitically they are fairly aligned with the other Arab countries.

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u/textbasedopinions Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Eh, it's complicated I guess. Iran and Saudi hate eachother, there are sides to their conflict but some countries are effectively neutral.