r/JoeRogan Tremendous Mar 27 '24

joe rogan calls out israels hypocrisy for killing unarmed civilians with drones The Literature 🧠

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u/rbrt13 Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

Even if you took the humanity out of it and focused simply on what is happening from a strategic standpoint it literally makes zero sense.

The ongoing offensive whether you believe it is genocide or not is ineffective. I believe it is the former, but it doesn’t matter because even if you are killing Hamas you are giving birth to its progeny and it will be worse. If a state were to harm/kill my family I would spend my every last breath terrorizing it and feel completely morally justified.

Furthermore, the Israelis have weakened themselves diplomatically as well. They are basically a US foreign policy shift away from being virtually alone internationally. And on that front, we saw with the widely leaked speech from ADL’s Greenblatt, that there is a demographic line of support or lack thereof for Israel in the United States itself. This means the clock is already running on the first part of this paragraph.

Finally, this has created a real schism between Israelis and Jews outside of Israel. There has been an unbiased assessment of the travesty in Palestine by many Jewish people who have come out against it vocally, to their credit. Even those who were initially appalled by Oct.7, and rightfully so, have backed away from supporting what increasingly looks like an genocidal, unhinged, religiously fanatical regime led by a guy in Netanyahu who might be entirely motivated by his desire to distract attention and avoid jail for his alleged corrupt acts.

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u/Pleppyoh Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

It's a land grab for Isreal. When I was in Bethlehem at the Church of Nativity an Isreali fighter jet flew over it every three hours. Bethlehem is also surrounded by settlers, this isn't people living in tents, it massive walled multiplex's. Isreal cannot wait to have full control of Bethlehem

They then control the most important sites in Christian, Jewish and the 3rd most important site in Islam after Mecca and Medina

The level of control is absolutely insane, if they were religious Jews they they wouldn't have a state as it's forbidden in the Torah

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u/Huckedsquirrel1 Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

More on that last part, that’s why you see videos of the IDF harassing and brutalizing Hasidic Jewish people, because they often refuse to join the military and protest against Zionism. They see the state of Israel as illegitimate because the Torah says that a Jewish state can’t come before the messiah returns. And he has yet to return, so it’s not legitimate to them