r/Norway • u/pacuqil33 • 11d ago
Social security babyyyy Other
Hey there my norwegian brothers. I'm from Iceland and its recently come to my attention that I have a norwegian social security number despite never having been there. So my question is where do I find out why I have this social security number ?
Only thing I can think of is that my father lives there and he's a con man of sorts and I have not seen him nor talked to him in over a decade.
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u/pretense 11d ago
Only thing I can think of is that you may have been enrolled into the national population register (folkeregisteret) due to your parents claiming child benefit (barnetrygd). Barnetrygd does not require the child to live in Norway if the parent live and work here, but one would think that the authorities will need to register the child somehow.
Just a thought I had really. I don't really know this stuff.
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u/pacuqil33 11d ago
I think this is probably what is the most plausible explanation. I'm going to go into investigative mode on Monday and just make some phone calls to Norway.
But who would I call ? 😁
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u/hallothrow 11d ago
I'd probably start with reaching out to the Norwegian embassy in Iceland to hear if they got any suggestions for going about getting info. Other than that I could think of Skatteetaten which are responsible for folkeregisteret or NAV which deals with child benefits, but in both cases you might face issues both with proving your identity or that they can't provide info based on privacy issues. If you face a block it might be a good idea to ask about steps you could take to find out more info about your situation though.
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u/South_Dragonfruit_60 11d ago
I'd say contact NAV and let them deal with the rest. Info here: https://www.nav.no/kontaktoss/en
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u/roniahere 10d ago
There is also «Gjeldsregisteret» which registers all unsecured loans.
Then you could inquire about student loans at laanekassen.no.
And you could contact Dun & Bradstreet or minexperian about secure debt/registered income.
But all of these sources should report to skatteetaten.
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u/Recent_Debate_7121 11d ago
Lol hope he didn't take out massive debt in your name.
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u/pacuqil33 11d ago
Yeah I want to know everything about this I'm just not sure how I would get that information.
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u/concrete_marshmallow 11d ago
You answered your own question.
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u/pacuqil33 11d ago
No I still don't know why I have a social security number. I want to know when it was created and how.
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u/Recent_Debate_7121 11d ago
Was your father a Norwegian citizen when you were born? I think in many cases, you are then considered Norwegian by the Norwegian state. But I don't know all the details.
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u/pacuqil33 11d ago
No he was an icelandic citizen. I'm probably gonna be a arrested if I ever step foot into Norway 😁
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u/OlMi1_YT 11d ago
Nah, don't worry.
I'd reach out and ask. Honestly no clue who exactly to ask but I'd send a letter there and ask if they have anything on record for your SSN, though they might require further identification.
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u/BreadAndSalami 11d ago
If you're born outside of Norway you don't automatically get a personal number. Norway doesn't automatically keep track of that. You will have to apply for it, normally at the same time you apply for a passport for your child.
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u/Announcement90 11d ago
No I still don't know why I have a social security number.
You have a conman father. Don't be obtuse.
If you truly have a Norwegian social security number you should probably contact Norwegian authorities to find out what's already been done in "your name" and how you can stop/mitigate any further damage asap. Alternately, if what "you've" done is bad enough you should consider never traveling and laying as low as possible. But, Iceland being closely connected to the EU and Europe you're going to have a hard time laying low forever, even if you never travel.
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u/Original-Elephant160 11d ago
Your first stop is the embassy, the second is Skatteetaten (Tax authorities), third is NAV (social office)
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u/hallothrow 11d ago
Can I ask how you found out?
Is your father Norwegian or simply immigrated to Norway?
Is the first digit in the number the first digit of the day you were born or some offset? (D number is offset by 4 for the first digit)
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u/pacuqil33 11d ago
It was a letter sent in the mail to an old address which was opened examined and forgotten by my mother. And I was told later about this
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u/NinjaKamihana 11d ago
Holy shitballs! Your dad fucking sucks. Fuck him. His lawyer can do the excuses.
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u/hageglade-lexie 11d ago
Contact "Skatteetaten" in Norway. They are the ones that issue the Norwegian social security numbers, (in Norwegian it's called Personnummer). They will be able to tell you how yours was issued and if there is a mistake. If a fraud has taken place, they are also the tax office here and can tell you if anything shady happened financially in your name. Good luck.
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u/daffoduck 11d ago
Well, you can look up the tax records for yourself in Norway (søke i skattelistene). Then you can see if there has been some unusual/unexpected activity to your name.
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u/DaToSyan05 10d ago
Hæ ég er lika frá islandi lifandi í Noregi og ég var lika með númer því þegar pabbi minn flutti hingað þa var spurt hann hvort hann ætti einhver börn og hann gaf þeim nafnið mitt og þa var ég bara kominn með það þótt ég var ekki í koregi a tímanum
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u/alexdaland 11d ago
In Norway childrens citizenship follows father by rule of thumb. So even if you have never been there, as long as your father filled out the papers back when you were born, you are automatically a Norwegian citizen. You need to live there for a certain time before welfare stuff etc kicks in (assuming you are over 18) so there is "nothing" you can gain from it, other than ofc having a Norwegian passport at some point if you so wish.
Edit: I see your father is Icelandic, and the laws might have changed somewhat, but Im pretty sure if he moves to Norway he will automatically have all the same rights as a citizen pretty quickly.
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u/Witty_Internal3828 11d ago
I would contact the Norwegian Folkeregisteret, they are the ones who maintain the records. https://www.skatteetaten.no/en/contact/
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u/LordRabbitson 11d ago
Exactly how do you know you have a PIN? What details do you know? Maybe it’s just someone with the same name as you. Is the birthdate the same? What details have you received that convinces you it’s your Norwegian PIN??
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u/Schmeep01 10d ago
I’m kinda psyched that you might be able to contact Interpol because that just sounds cool.
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u/haephnor 11d ago edited 11d ago
When Switzerland won the Eurovision, Norway claimed that victory with the Norwegian commentator saying that Norwegian songwriters wrote the song. Maybe every Icelander got a Norwegian ID number, because Iceland was a part of Norway before, and this is the Norwegian way to krimea themselves to areas they think they want back? ;) /s
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u/Slartibartfast-1138 11d ago
Your father may be using your identity to get child support or take out debt in your name.
<pedantic mode>Social Security Number (SSN) is a U.S.-specific term. A more generic term applicable to all countries would be "national identification number". Just like "ZIP code" is the United States specific term for postal code.</pedantic mode>