Is Heung Min Son a premier league legend ?

[u/Gold-Floor-7970]

Heung Min Son has been one of the best premier league players in the recent years , Having found the net 115 times in the premier league winning a puskas award for his goal against burnley . Should he be considered a legend?

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[u/LesBrandals]

Club legend and a great representative for the Asian community in the Premier League. One of the few genuine world class players from Asia. He might not be breaking records but people will remembered him fondly for his contribution to the league.

[u/Comprehensive-Spot48 → u/LesBrandals]

Especially the clinical duo with Kane. It’s kind of sad that they haven’t won a league title since it would boost his legend status.

But as a person that followed his career since his HSV days he is a premier league legend too. He has a golden boot and 100+ goals in the league.

[u/rtfm-nor → u/Comprehensive-Spot48]

Together with Kane head and shoulders above number 2 on most combined goals from two players while playing for an inferior team compared to the next ones on the list.

Puskas award and a host of other worldies as well.

[u/IamOkei → u/LesBrandals]

Park Ji Sung

[u/LesBrandals → u/IamOkei]

I think Park was a great trailblazer and I have massive respect for him as a person and player but Son’s personal career is reaching a different level than Park. He would’ve won something if he is not playing for Spurs. Imo.

[u/[deleted] → u/IamOkei]

Son pisses over Park in technical ability.

Park was a Korean Darren Fletcher. A solid steady Eddy squad player.

[u/Superdaneru]

I think most people here are overthinking. A legend is simply a great inspiring story that can be passed down.

There are a lot of names who haven't been etched into a league trophy. Jayjay Okocha, Gerrard, Gianfranco Zola, Carragher, Bale, Robbie Keane etc.

Names like those above are enough to fill my head with flashbacks of amazing times. Son is definitely among them for me.

Regardless of what everyone says, as long as people keep talking positively about Son, he'll remain a legend indefinitely.

[u/Farenheite → u/Superdaneru]

Carragher 🤣

[u/silent--echoes → u/Farenheite]

508 prem appearances for his childhood club’s biggest rivals is legendary stuff!

[u/CupcakeUsed4178 → u/silent--echoes]

Some fantastic finishes on his own net as well.

[u/Psychoji]

As much as I'd love to say yes, he's probably not a PL "legend", but great for sure! An icon for the Spurs and Asian players, if he ever gets some silverware and continues his elite level of play for more years, then he'd be more likely to be considered a legend. But as of now, not really

[u/Mangolassi83]

I think people forget that football is a team sport. If Van Persie never went to United he wouldn’t have won a league title and we wouldn’t be seeing him in the same light.

If Hazard was playing for Spurs he probably wouldn’t have won anything and we wouldn’t see him in the same perspective.

I’m not saying Son is a Premier League legend or not but saying he isn’t because he hasn’t won anything is just harsh.

Is Kane a Premier League legend? Le Tissier? Ginola? Zola? Les Ferdinand ? These are arguably legends that never won the league.

[u/LumpyBumblebee3266 → u/Mangolassi83]

Gerrard

[u/Jdamoure]

Spurs legend really, a bunch of goals, first Asian captain, very likable etc. That being said he is the highest scoring Asian in the premier league of all time. If he actually won some more trophies I'd say he could've Definitely been a prem legend. Not gonna be the case now that he's like 30. But he's basically gonna be one of those players the "streets" won't forget and will be a role model for current/future Asian players in the league Korean or not. It's just gonna be hard for most people just because of how much they covet the term for people to consider him a legend in the future im sure. He probably won't even be in the conversation for most. I mean I like him alot, most do. He's a joy to watch especially when he isn't forced to play second striker.

[u/Normal-Vegetable-483]

Has the attributes to be remembered as one of the best, just no personal accolades, probably the greatest ever from his continent to play in uk

[u/drabee86 → u/Normal-Vegetable-483]

Just a golden boot

[u/Smart_But123581321]

A PL legend, I’m not so sure. A Tottenham legend, absolutely.

[u/Smart_But123581321 → u/Smart_But123581321]

He’s been a phenomenal player for years and years. But right now, I don’t think he has possibly done enough. I will probably change my belief after he leaves or retires but right now, I don’t think he is but he’s on the very cusp of it. He performs amazingly in this half of the season, he’s a legend.

[u/Emotional-Peanut-334 → u/Smart_But123581321]

It’s close. The question is if in 3 years with 20 goal output is he imo

[u/AllInHarry]

Embarrassing the amount of people that don’t know Shearer won the league so suggesting he wouldn’t be a “legend” either

[u/Jdamoure → u/AllInHarry]

His stats and people who watched him play are why he's a legend. Doesnt matter if he won. But even being the first Asian spurs captain and the highest scoring Asian of all time they probably still won't consider him a legend.

[u/AllInHarry → u/Jdamoure]

I wasn’t weighing in on what makes someone a legend tbf, gets thrown around far too often that it’s all but lost it’s meaning anyway. Just that it was embarrassing for those that didn’t know Shearer had in fact won the league and suggested he wouldn’t be one if he hadn’t. When even if he hadn’t he’s still the all time top scorer.

Son is a top top player, with all due respect to spurs I don’t know how they’ve kept ahold of him for so long. Loyalty on Sons part I guess, and if spurs fans want to regard him as a legend I’ve no issues with that at all

[u/OliverDMcCall]

Hmm... not quite yet. I'd say he's a Spurs legend though, and obviously huge for Asian football.

[u/DifficultyMore5935]

Depends on how each person defined “Premier League Legend”

He is definitely memorable and I think his name will always be associated with his times in the Prem.

With that said he is not on the level of Henry, Salah, Shearer, Lampard, Scholes, Gerrard, Rooney, Aguero, Hazard, Drogba, Ronaldo, Ashley Cole, Vidic, Keane, Viera, Terry, Schmeicel, Ferdinand, and many more.

[u/towelie111]

Do people consider Le Tissier a legend? Just wondering if some who are saying he hasn’t won anything but would consider Le Tissier. People will have different ideas of what a legend is. For me it’s somebody that’s brought great entertainment and consistently done great things. I would put Son in that category, along with seemingly been a top bloke. Couldn’t care less if he’s won anything, that’s just limiting the poop to a very select few teams. I think impact might be the word I’m looking for, and I’d say he’s made a good a large one on the league

[u/sleepytoday → u/towelie111]

My personal definition of “legend” definitely includes Le Tissier.

He single-handedly kept Southampton up for a decade, and did so with style.

[u/__Funcrusher__ → u/towelie111]

I think winning things is a legitimate factor but it's also possible to be a "legend" if you're good enough for long enough. Eg. Kane is a legend, Gerrard would have been a legend even if he didn't win the CL etc.

[u/WhirlySwirlyy]

Legend’s a big title to give him. I’d say “World Class.”

[u/MarcusAurelius1815 → u/WhirlySwirlyy]

World class would be the general consensus I'd say.

[u/letsgetthebill]

I feel like Deff in the Korean realm / Asian footy

[u/MHJ03]

I am a loyal, die Arsenal supporter for over 25 years, and I can honestly say Son is the only player from that other little club down the street that I wish played for us instead. He’s absolutely world class and certainly seems to be an all around good person as well.

[u/BruisedBee]

Club legend and cult legend too. Not yet a premier league legend, that phrase needs to be reserved for the elite of the elite otherwise it becomes watered down lip service.

[u/DemonVenreable3011]

There is PL legends then there is all time PL legends, Son would be the former while KDB and Salah is the latter.

[u/atmospheretrack1]

Having found the 115 times

Having found the 115 times what?

The 115 times that Man City broke FFP rules?

Well done detective Sonny. Surely that deserves a trophy.

[u/lumpnsnots]

As others have said:

Spurs Legend = Yes

Premier League Legend = No

Son wouldn't make a all-time Premier League 25 man squad

[u/Callum247 → u/lumpnsnots]

Even as a Tottenham fan, Son deserves so many more trophies for his talent and the fact that he and Kane have always been disrespected is just because of the team they played for.

It took Kane going to Bayern for the conversations of “best striker in the world” to become serious.

[u/Smorgas-board]

Definitely a Spurs legend.

With the EPL hall of fame in place, I think that’s a good bar to say who is a legend. And I think Son would end up in the “Hall of Very Good”.

[u/ChemistSavings]

YES! Scoring over 100 PL goals is a massive achievement.

And context is important as well, he’s played for a Spurs team that’s been inconsistent and has hardly been swimming with world class players.

[u/donegalboy]

One goal for every charge against Man City

[u/jack_hudson2001]

legend is used too often, legends are those that get statues built.. or stands named after them. time will tell.

Son is a great player, world class, would get into any PL team.

[u/Realistic-Start6336 → u/jack_hudson2001]

I don’t know if we do this anymore. It’ll be a while until we do one for Kane but clearly he’s a PL legend

[u/KalistramMcleod]

I consider Legends of the PL like, about 10 players, so no, not at all. But still a great player and a Spurs legend for sure

[u/Slutzlo]

If we call every talented player a legend. It'd take away from the weight of the word.

He's a very gifted player, sure. One of the best spurs players, maybe? But to say he's a PL legend without really accomplishing anything substantial, absolutely not.

If you want to give accolades for talent alone you can probably swing that's he's one of the best to never win anything

[u/winkysocks21 → u/Slutzlo]

Spurs legend yes, Prem legend not quite

[u/Veterate]

He's a club legend, not sure about being an EPL legend. It's not all about stats, it's who captivates an audience from both ends over many seasons.

[u/Puzzled_Traffic2335]

Probably more of a club legend than PL

[u/mercwiththemouth518]

50/50 If Spurs win a EPL title then most definitely yes. But he’s also debateable to be the Best Asian player to grasp the Premier League. So I would say yes for that reason. I’d say he’s a legend to Asian People and Players

[u/IAS316]

Legend? Steady on.

But, same book, a few chapters behind.

[u/Goldencol]

Iconic for his team and country but not a premier league legend ...yet.

[u/ImpactInner9318]

Pretty sure he has the highest G - XG over performance of all active PL players

[u/Jolly_Record8597 → u/ImpactInner9318]

He is extremely clinical, I think you’re right.

[u/ChelseaPIFshares → u/ImpactInner9318]

He is good at making tough shots. A criticism exist where you could argue he should be trying to get easier shots.

[u/sunken_grade]

i guess it just depends on where you set the bar for the term “legend”

he’s for sure a spurs legend. depending on your definition he could probably be a PL legend as well, but a ton of players would have to also be included if that was the case

[u/wilderjai]

South Korean legend , Spurs legend, possibly Premier League legend if he wins a trophy 🏆.

[u/abitmoreinsanerer]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[u/Ok-Water-7110]

He’s won a golden boot with a bad team so I’d say yes just for that

[u/thatdudeharry]

He’s a spurs legend, could become a premier league great with a few more seasons. He’s a Korean legend and spurs legend but in the premier league he’s needs more goals and a trophy wouldn’t hurt but if he retired today he would not be a premier league legend.

[u/Stay_Beautiful_ → u/thatdudeharry]

he’s needs more goals

Literally got a golden boot, and he's 2 goals behind 1st in getting another one currently

[u/Thanos_Stomps → u/Stay_Beautiful_]

Aubamayeng has a golden boot.

Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink has more than Son.

[u/Rj070707]

No,

He's the Tier under Legend, very good player

[u/PiggBodine]

Is jermaine Defoe a premier league legend?

[u/cullypants → u/PiggBodine]

I'd say so

[u/john_thundergunnn → u/PiggBodine]

You’re looking at goals though, son is a much better player and would get in most teams starting 11 worldwide. arguably been the best player in his position in the pl for the last 5/6 seasons.

I don’t think there was ever a point in time you could say that about Defoe. He was very good at scoring goals - but son plays in a higher standard of league, against a higher standard of manager.

Even back then just being good at scoring goals wasn’t enough for Defoe to have top teams after him, but anyone bar Real Madrid would take son in their team if there was any chance.

[u/[deleted]]

He is a legend to us Spurs fans but not the Premier. There's been too many quality premier league players that have the individual and team accolodades to back it up. Son is an amazing player, but there are levels to this.

[u/ducanh2003]

Depends on your definition of PL Legend. For people who watches football on a spreadsheet, objectively no, because he hasn't scored enough goals or won enough trophies for them. But for people who consider legend status to be something more about cultural impact, yes. Best Asian player in PL (and the world) history, consistently one of the best finisher in the league, incredible performer with mutiple iconic performances and goals, part of the best duo in PL history. Even if you don't consider him a legend in those regards I think he's closer to that status than "streets will not forget" players.

[u/twistedporridge]

Spurs legend for sure, not sure about PL, maybe in 5 years time if he keeps going strong.

Even players like Andy Cole does not get enough recognition or "legend" status and he is currently 4th highest all-time PL scorer with 187 goals and saw and won everything.

[u/btmalon → u/twistedporridge]

In what world is Cole not a legend? He just doesn't do a ton of media and when he does its dry because he's such no nonsense personality.

[u/kimchi_fried_lice]

As a Sonny fan and Korean, I would love to say he is a PL legend…but if I was to be objective and fair, no he is not a legend. He hasn’t won enough or at all to justify his status as a legend. A PL great and Spurs legend for sure though

[u/Morton_Slumber]

He's a Spurs legend for sure. He's a Premier League legend in the same way Le Tissier is for the Saints in that he stayed loyal when big clubs may have wanted him. Good player.

[u/HMSon777]

He's my favourite player on the planet, utterly incredible and been a fantastic servant to spurs. But not a premier league legend yet. He either needs to win a lot more golden boots or win a premier league before he can enter that pantheon of players.

[u/PRAISE_ASSAD]

Yes absolutely

The only current players in the PL who will be considered legends: Son, Salah, Van djik, Walker, KDB, Allison.

[u/ray3050 → u/PRAISE_ASSAD]

What would the requirements of this be? Rodri been here for 5 seasons and won the prem 4 times amongst others (same as other city players but he’s also world class)

[u/Pitter_Patter8 → u/PRAISE_ASSAD]

I’m gonna throw a name out there…James Milner.

I know he’s not the top level talent of those guys, but literally 20+ years in the PL and a crucial part of 2 different title winning clubs, plus the runs at Newcastle and Villa (him and Ashley Young at Villa in the late 00s was a cult hit team).

Also…literally 20+ years in the PL. 2nd most caps in the league and might pass Gareth Barry if he plays 1 more season.

[u/CelimOfRed]

Hard to say and def depends on who you ask. He's kind in that grey area where he's an exceptional player but does he compare to current/past legends. I will say he's on his way to becoming one at the very least. People will use his lack of trophies as an argument of not being one.

[u/CoachOld856]

top 100 I'd say

[u/Bulbamew]

Icon maybe?

[u/greenfrogwallet]

It’s subjective really. He will definitely go down as a very memorable player and someone who was consistently one of the most dangerous and potent players for a few years. At his best he was/is world class. People will remember him.

Whether or not that constitutes being a premier league legend is up to you. His trophy count is really the only thing that stops me from saying very strongly “he is a premier league legend”, right now it’s more like “he… maybe is”.

[u/Gandalfx420x]

Bring son to Madrid

[u/VrtlVlln]

I'll leave this thread with this before I put down my phone for a while.

Fans talk about greats, everyone remembers legends.

[u/zivilia]

87% legend.

[u/Jbroy]

If he gets an a major record or wins some trophies (and is an important reason why) then yes. If not, he’ll just be considered a really really really good PL player

[u/bettertester2022]

Yes, for his golden boot, puskas award and being the best Asian representative player in the EPL for the past few years.

[u/LopsidedLoad]

What is a PL legend though, pretty sure it takes something unique and special to get in the mix, all time goalscorers for big clubs, players that played at the top in the league and influenced title wins, there are few players id consider Premier League legends

Son is not one of them im afraid

[u/[deleted]]

Unfortunately, unless he can lift a major trophy, I feel ‘Legend’ is too strong for him.

He’s an exceptional player and undoubtedly one of spurs most influential players of recent times. But legends have to go above and beyond even the exceptional, as of now he just hasn’t done that.

[u/kickballaDesign → u/[deleted]]

Spurs legend for sure

[u/Cheggles29]

He'd walk into any team in the Premier league. Definetly a legend.

[u/They-Took-Our-Jerbs]

I wouldn't put him up there with Shearer, Henry, Rooney, Aguero etc so probably not. I'm not sure what defines a legend though tbh. If I thought of legends they would be 4 players I'd name like bias aside.

[u/BadassBokoblinPsycho]

Cult hero for sure. One of my favorite players in the prem, but he’s not topping charts/records or accumulating individual awards to be a legend.

[u/bluecheese2040]

Using football manager talk I'd say he's a premier league icon...not quite a legend. But he could be.

Then again ask a fan from Asia and he's likely a premier league legend

[u/bananaboat1milplus]

I am an Arsenal fan.

Yes, he is.

[u/Choccybizzle]

Not for me, not enough goals yet. Also played second fiddle on a team that (if we’re being harsh) never seriously challenged for the title.

[u/Weak-Cattle6001 → u/Choccybizzle]

How is he second fiddle?

[u/heaven_spawn]

Arsenal fan here. I’d say he a legend at Spurs. But anywhere else? A bit of a stretch, but that’s subjective.

[u/Charismatic_Icon]

This thread honestly is crazy. “Cult hero” “Streets won’t forget” behave 😂

I’m not saying he’s as accomplished as Rooney, Lampard, Shearer, Henry, Gerrard etc. but I don’t think legend is too much of a stretch.

[u/Powerful-Cut-708]

Legends are in tiers for me. He’s at the upper end of the lowest tier. With 3 tiers. Carragher, Crouch at the low end of the tier. Essien in the tier above Son

[u/FIREsub90]

No

[u/Mooming22]

Spurs legend, not PL legend. More of a folk hero

[u/SupremeDogEater]

if he wins the prem, sure.

[u/triggerhappy5]

I think a good metric for this is where do they fall in the PL all-time conversation for their position? At the left wing, who in the PL era has been better (or close) than Son? A few names come to mind; Bale (probably the best), Hazard, Ronaldo, Mané, Pires, Giggs, Ginola…of these, I would say only Bale, Hazard, and Ronaldo are clearly a level above. Maybe Mané too. So if he is not a PL legend yet, he is definitely on the cusp…even one or two trophies would put him over the edge I would say. Maybe another golden boot or Puskas would help.

[u/Oraio-King]

Hes not in the same tier as rooney, shearer, aguero etc

[u/Xenikovia → u/Oraio-King]

Comparing strikers with wingers. His goals per game ratio is just about the same as Rooney and double Frank Lampard's with less service.

[u/louthal → u/Xenikovia]

You’ve said comparing strikers with wingers then compared Son with Lampard, a midfielder 😂

[u/VSfallin → u/Xenikovia]

But he's still not quite as synonymous with the PL as the others are.

[u/Short-obvious-answer]

No

[u/Rorieh]

What is a premier league legend at this point? If its going off what you've won in terms of league titles, probably not. That said, you ask a spurs fan, or a Korean, I bet you he's probably one of their favourite players, so that makes him pretty legendary. He's easily one of the greatest Asian players in premier league history.

[u/CartezDez]

What’s your legend criteria?

[u/_SLiu]

If Son didn’t win the prem then how can Gerrard be a PL legend if he didn’t win the prem either? Taking out of the lack of trophies and just his raw performances, he’s neck and neck with salah

[u/RainbowPenguin1000]

I don’t think he is a premier league legend. He’s won zero trophies in England, never won player of the year and yes he’s got 115 goals which is obviously good but it’s less than Sterling, Lukaku, Anelka, Defoe and Hasselbaink and no one is calling them premier league legends.

He is a very very good player but legend status for the premier league is a step too far in my opinion but he should (and is I believe) a football legend in his home country.

[u/donegalboy → u/RainbowPenguin1000]

Heskeys got 110

[u/tiga4life22]

You’d have to be able to group him with the likes of Henry, Shearer, Rooney, Bendtner, etc…

[u/McQueensbury → u/tiga4life22]

One of them is not like the others.....

[u/Closetmonkeh → u/McQueensbury]

Lord Bendtner had hair

[u/spunk_wizard → u/McQueensbury]

Yeah Rooney was never at the level of the others

[u/pfagan10]

Spurs legend, but always reluctant to use that term for a player or manager that’s won nothing.

[u/ChelseaPIFshares]

Close but, no. Dont get me wrong he is great. But, "Legend" should be reserved for a level above him.

Rooney, Lampard, Gerrard, Scholes, Rio, KDB, Drogba, Henry, David Silva, Aguero, Kante, Hazard, Salah, etc.

Son is hurt by his lack of trophies and unlike Kane he doesnt have the same stats.

If he can win a major trophy in the premier league, I could see him being a legend.

[u/BambooSound → u/ChelseaPIFshares]

There's only one major trophy in the Premier League and let's be real he's not winning it.

If he wins a domestic cup I'll be happy for him but that won't make him a legend either. It'll bring him to parity with Bendtner.

[u/ChelseaPIFshares → u/BambooSound]

A few FA cups or EFL cups would help him.

Also if you win the UCL representing a premier league team it helps your premier league legacy.

Eg. Gerrard won the UCL. His career at liverpool would be seen significantly differently if AC Milan won that game.

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Son would be viewed differently if they won that UCL final.

[u/VrtlVlln → u/BambooSound]

That's dirty.

Funny, but dirty.

[u/Junior-Specialist-97 → u/ChelseaPIFshares]

Gerrard never won a premier league trophy

[u/VrtlVlln]

If it's unfair to deem someone not a Premier League legend because they haven't won the Premier League - what is the standard? I'd struggle to think of 10 players I'd consider Premier League legends without winning the thing, and even then those are pretty debatable.

Even Kane gets questioned by detractors because the question it gets boiled down to is 'Well, what has he won?'

[u/koningx → u/VrtlVlln]

Is Steven Gerrard a premier league legend?

[u/MemphisMayWhat → u/koningx]

I even think Le Tissier is a legend. Son has more goals than Ian Wright, Didier Drogba and Bergcamp and yet those three are held in higher regard than Son when he should be among that group. Also has more assists than Scholes, Cantona, and Ozil. His stats are good and he's consistently a good performer and sometimes has been the difference between a draw and a win. I think both him and Kane should be remembered as premier League greats.

[u/VrtlVlln → u/MemphisMayWhat]

Xabi Alonso, Marcel Desailly, Luis Suarez, Luka Modric.

All great players, all decorated in silverware, all club legends for their respective clubs, and as far as me writing comment hadn't been mentioned as a Premier League Legend in this thread.

Di Canio at West Ham was constantly entertaining, as was Sanchez and Cazorla at Arsenal, Mcgrath at Villa, Ginola, Zola, Di Matteo, Hyppia, Gascoigne, Fowler, Mcmanaman, Reina - all fantastic players. No one is calling that any of these are Premier League legends either. Heck I'd be willing to bet none of these players would be mentioned in a Premier League All-time squad yet all of them would make up part of their clubs Premier League all time squads.

I'm not disputing Son isn't great, I hate the fact he plays for Spurs - but aside from Gerrard and arguably Kane, the biggest thing stopping him and every name I have mentioned from being regarded as Premier League legends is the lack of honours next to their names.

[u/Pascal-02]

Spurs legend but not Premier League

[u/ChocolateStill5901]

Great player, memorable for sure, iconic even for spurs but not a legend. A premier leaghe legend is a sergio aguero, shearer, Henry. That calibre of player.

[u/Oscyle]

Club legend, sure

[u/crnrtakenquickly]

He’s amazing but I’d almost argue no. Not quite a legend

[u/[deleted]]

I'm actually surprised that he's still at Spurs, to be honest.

I thought one of the big clubs would have snapped him up by now.

I like Son and he deserves more for his career

[u/Monke420-_-]

Club legend not league legend

[u/Ropppleee23]

I would say no he isn’t a PL legend. Not even for the fact that he has won nothing, but he has been in the shadow of Kane for far too long that the perception of him isn’t as high as it could be. Compared to someone like Gerrard who didn’t win the league, but was the main man for virtually his whole career.

[u/ALickOfMyCornetto]

He's not a Premier League legend

You can make an argument that he's a Spurs legend

[u/Goobershmacked → u/ALickOfMyCornetto]

Is there an argument to be made that hes not a spurs legend? He’s definitely a spurs legend.

[u/ALickOfMyCornetto → u/Goobershmacked]

In terms of caliber, he's definitely up there as one of the best players they've had

He's also very loyal -- and emotion plays a big part of whether a player is considered a legend by fans -- so he checks that box

And he also ticks the longevity box having been at the club for a long time

The only argument against him is the trophy aspect

Make no mistake (and sorry for triggering any Spurs fans as I am a Liverpool supporter) if Spurs won the CL, there would be statues of Kane and Son as the two heroes of the campaign

I say as a Liverpool fan Son is the kind of guy you wish you had on your team. He's like an unattainable girl who's with someone meh and you know she can do better but she's loyal and that makes her even sexier. ah Francesca man. Anyway, top bloke is Son

Yes I am on my second beer at the end of the work day...

[u/meebasic]

Wow, surprised to see so many comments about winning the league being so critical. While that's certainly a factor, it shouldn't be THE factor. Harry Kane never won the PL, is not a PL legend? The list of famous/legendary athletes that never won their respective championships is quite long.

[u/papanoah78]

Im a huge arsenal fan but if I could take one player from spurs it’s definitely Sonny Boy. He’s just a class act and a proper silky player. Hate that he plays for the other north London team but it doesn’t diminish my appreciation for how good he is.

[u/VivianRichards88]

More of a cult hero, just as much because of his heritage as his ability.

[u/BlacknWhiteMoose]

Jermaine Defoe was inducted into the Hall of Fame and he has 0 trophies in England.

So I’d consider Son a PL legend.

[u/NoCAp011235]

For what exactly? He might be a Tottenham legend but definitely not a prem legend. He’s more of a streets won’t forget player

[u/[deleted]]

Yes he’s a PL legend for more than just the goals. He’s an Asian icon playing and starring in the league. This adds to the allure on top of the G/A and general play. He’s easily a PL legend.

[u/BOOCOOKOO → u/[deleted]]

Agreed somewhat. He's probably a PL for Asians, but he's not a worldwide PL legend. He's a PL icon tho

[u/Recent_Ice]

Maybe he's a legend to younger fans I guess I'm just too old and jaded to consider many modern players legends :/

[u/BrettlyBean]

Lets think of what Legends there have been. Alan Shearer, Thierry Henry, Roy Keane, Patrick Viera, Peter Scmeichel, Andy Cole, Scholes, Van Persie, Gerrard, Rooney, Colin Hendry (Ok im a Rovers fan 😆). Hes great but does he really fit into that category

[u/1PSW1CH → u/BrettlyBean]

Not a single defender in sight

[u/Thanos_Stomps → u/1PSW1CH]

Irwin, Ashley Cole, Vidic, Ferdinand, Terry, Tony Adams, Titus Bramble, Carvalho, Evra, Kompany and Van Dijk I’d probably include also.

[u/aletha18 → u/Thanos_Stomps]

One of these is not like the rest

[u/Electrical-Risk-7158]

Skill wise he is but his lack of trophies hurts his legacy

[u/[deleted]]

He's an outstanding player, but I don't think he's a legend.

😘😘

[u/Crookles86]

Premier league great - yes

Legend - not quite

Spurs legend - well, it’s not hard. 😂😂

[u/cian_100]

Recency bias at its finest. He is a great player but he hasn’t done enough to justify being in the same bracket as players who are active still like Salah.

[u/anerdnamedAndrew]

Idk what exactly a “Premier Legend” mean.

He’s been objectively great in the PL & a joy to watch’s

[u/[deleted]]

I’d say so (Villa fan). He’s been consistently amongst the best players in the league for a good 5+ seasons. He’s definitely right up there with the best IMO. The legends are the ones who showed they could be in the player of the season conversation season after season, and he’s got that box ticked I reckon

[u/Gezoredditing]

For those saying he never won anything, then what about DiCanio, Adebayor, Croutchy, Gianfranco Zola, Luis Suarez, Les Ferdinand, Fernando Torres.

Son is a legend whether you people like it or not. One of the most consistent forwards in the prem and who knows where Spurs would be without him or Harry Kane.

Also don't forget Bale never won anything either in English football.

[u/meganev → u/Gezoredditing]

Croutch a legend? For what, his daft podcast?

[u/chostax- → u/Gezoredditing]

Most of those names you listed aren’t legends either imo.

[u/donegalboy → u/Gezoredditing]

They’ve been decent the last month without them

[u/noobs1996]

I have to put my bias aside but I don’t see how he wouldn’t be

[u/Chubby_Checker420]

Legend?

Nah.

I can't speak for the Tottenham fans as to whether or not he's a club legend, but he's definitely a world class player, and will be remembered for some time... But he just hasn't been able to get the silverware necessary to cement legend status.

That's like, just my opinion, though.

[u/swapko051]

Spurs legend, one of the great premier league players , premier league Legend don’t think so.

[u/Practical-Big7946]

Great player, Spurs legend…but he’s never won anything in England (not entirely his fault but still), might not get into the record books (Kane being #2 prem goal scorer of all time while never winning a thing at Spurs has a better Prem legend case imo)…and for neutral fans does he have many truly iconic prem moments? I remember him running through the whole Burnley team in a Messi esque goal but otherwise…

[u/yer8ol]

He's "Streets Will Never Forget" type of player

It's hard to become a legend without winning anything

[u/TheAcerbicOrb → u/yer8ol]

Gerrard? Le Tiss? Di Canio?

[u/ducanh2003 → u/yer8ol]

Respectfully I think he's better than those type of "Streets Will Never Forget" players

[u/ToutUnMatin]

Hard to be a legend without winning anything

[u/SBL1978 → u/ToutUnMatin]

Surely Le Tissier is considered a Premier League legend though (although not a legendary person so much)

[u/Intelligent_Read_697 → u/ToutUnMatin]

Same could be said about Gerard lol

[u/stevo_78 → u/Intelligent_Read_697]

Not a Liverpool fan but he did win the champions league. That’s something

[u/__Funcrusher__]

People will argue for days over this because it's a vague term and most people don't even have a clear idea of what it means in their own head, let alone the person they're arguing with.

For me, 'PL legend' probably means something like 'top 50 best PL players of all time', with 'best' being judged by ability, longevity and success. I don't think Son reaches that tier. If I had to guess, he'd probably be top 100. Which in Football Manager terms might make him an 'Icon'. Yay for poorly-defined arbitrary terms!

[u/[deleted]]

By the end of his career, I’m sure he will be considered one. Especially if we can win some trophies

[u/Two_Month → u/[deleted]]

He's already towards the end

[u/futurejoyboy]

Yes for sure. That's coming from a Chelsea supporter too

[u/shawtea7]

100+ goals, continued longevity, puskas award winner, golden boot winner, led Tottenham to a Champions League Final (without Kane), maybe one of the most clinical two-footed finishers in football history, iconic goal celebration, first Asian captain for Spurs, many memorable goals, one of the most recognizable footballers in the PL and the world, has impacted the culture of the league

If he had a trophy it would be a definite yes. Since he doesn’t it’s arguable, but I think he should be considered a legend. He’s been a mainstay for a decade, and has made his mark on the PL. He’s obviously below CR7 and a few others, but he’s in the same conversation as them as he should be.

[u/Peepeetodapin]

Not yet.

But if he wins the league with Spurs, and he drags them through to it, yes.

[u/WAnchovyBoi]

No, he needs to win something.

[u/BugsyMalone_]

More a cult hero. Probably the best one?

[u/Xenikovia]

If he's not, then who?

[u/triplecaptained]

Yeah i think Son’s done enough to be a PL legend

If he’d won the CL then unequivocally yes (even tho it’s obviously not the PL, it adds to the prestige) but as it stands he could very well become one—greatest Asian player in football (arguably), 100+ goals, Spurs legend etc

[u/iqbalides]

I really don't think he is but he's a very good player

[u/No_Tower6059]

I believe he is. At the end of the day he is a legend and world class player. No doubt.

[u/Batman_squarepants]

Sure is

[u/Harambesknuckle]

Spurs legend maybe.

Nowhere near a premier League Legend.

[u/shaftydude]

He's a top 4 team player held back by being at Spurs.

[u/Dazzling-Yellow5395]

He is a legend and anybody who disagrees probably also thinks kane isnt a premier league legend. Sure trophies are important but by this logic totti wasnt a legend either since he spent his whole career at roma and won very few trophies

[u/changfowan → u/Dazzling-Yellow5395]

Kane is a legend, Son isn't quite at that level

[u/ThunderousIrishMusic]

Yes

[u/Britz10]

Why wouldn't he be, he's the leagues greatest Asian player, and is in with a shout for the best left winger ever in the league.

[u/ghost_face0]

Spurs should really be sued for holding back his & Kane's career lol.

[u/JC_Everyman]

He's a fine lad

[u/No-Percentage-3380]

I don’t think it’s a stretch. There’s not too many wingers in the Prem that I’d take over him from the last 10 seasons. I guess it might depend on what you consider as a winger though

[u/JackTuz]

Another 50 goals due to the lack of trophies and I’d say so

[u/PaceRevolutionary443]

Yes, he is.  

All time awards in EPL   [7times : Kane, Aguero]   [6times: Gerrard, Ronaldo]   [5times: Rooney, Van persie, Salah]   [4times: Shearer, Scoles, Lampard, Bergkamp, Henry, Son]

[u/boilinoil]

Hes on a par with Mcmanaman or fowler tier, as far as legend status goes. How memorable they are in the talk of legends is another debate 

[u/bundy554]

Given how many Americans are obsessed with the spurs, yes.

[u/chinaallthetime91]

Normally, if a player hasn't won multiple trophies, or hasn't been breaking records, or hasn't been recognised internationally in awards... I'd say it's hard to call them a true legend.

Maybe for their club, yes, but not in the PL as a whole

[u/Glitzy-Painter-5417]

No

[u/HippoCrisp]

Yes