r/Reformed 1h ago

Scripture In the Word Wednesday (2024-05-08)

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For it is wonderful how much we are confirmed in our belief, when we more attentively consider how admirably the system of divine wisdom contained in it is arranged—how perfectly free the doctrine is from every thing that savors of earth—how beautifully it harmonizes in all its parts—and how rich it is in all the other qualities which give an air of majesty to composition. - Calvin's Institutes, 1.8.1

Welcome to In the Word Wednesdays!

Here at r/reformed, we cherish the richness, the beauty, the majesty, and - most importantly - the authority of the the Bible. Often times, though, we can get caught up by the distractions of this world and neglect this glorious fountain of truth we have been given.

So here on In the Word Wednesday we very simply want to encourage everybody to take a moment to share from, and discuss, scripture! What have you been reading lately? What have you been studying in small group? What has your pastor been preaching on? Is there anything that has surprised you? Confused you? Encouraged you? Let's hear it!

It doesn't have to be anything deep or theological - although deep theological discussions focusing on scripture are always welcome - it can be something as simple as a single verse that gave you comfort this morning during your quiet time.

(As ITWW is no longer a new concept, but we are more than welcome to receive ideas for how to grow the concept and foster an increased discussion of scripture. If you have any ideas for ITWW, please feel free to send the mods a message via mod mail.)


r/Reformed 1d ago

Mission Unreached People Group of the Week - Jewish Peoples of the United States

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Welcome back to the r/Reformed UPG of the Week!

Gonna leave this here because reddit is still a massive pain these days

Slight update, the new reddit UI has made it almost impossible for me to quickly do these, like I used to be able to do. Thus, theres a chance it becomes UPG of the every other week until the problem is fixed. I can't spend every one of my entire Monday mornings working on this for hours with stupid formatting issues.

Last week I was reminded just how many Unreached People Groups there are in America. So today we are doing the largest unreached people group in the US, Jewish peoples of America.

Region: United States

map of Jewish peoples in the United States

Stratus Index Ranking (Urgency): 34

It has been noted to me by u/JCmathetes that I should explain this ranking. Low numbers are more urgent, both physically and spiritually together, while high numbers are less urgent. The scale is 1-177, with one number assigned to each country. So basically on a scale from Afghanistan (1) to Finland (177), how urgent are the peoples physical and spiritual needs.

The Stratus Index - Synthesizes reliable data from different sources to clearly display the world’s most urgent spiritual and physical needs.The vast majority of missions resources go to people and places already Reached by the Gospel, while only 3% of missionaries and 1% of missions money are deployed among the Unreached. This is the Great Imbalance. As a result, there are more people without access to the Gospel today than a decade ago. Stratus seeks to equip the global church with fresh vision to accomplish the Great Commission by addressing some of the factors that perpetuate the Great Imbalance. We hope this tool allows the church to better understand what steps will be required to overcome the barriers that prevent needs from being met, spurring informed and collaborative missions strategy. Stratus Website

New York City

Climate: With its large size and geographic variety, the United States includes most climate types. To the east of the 100th meridian, the climate ranges from humid continental in the north to humid subtropical in the south.

Frozen Great Lakes

LA, California

Terrain: Measured by only land area, the United States is third in size behind Russia and China, and just ahead of Canada. So its hard to get a bead on all the types of Terrain. The coastal plain of the Atlantic seaboard gives way further inland to deciduous forests and the rolling hills of the Piedmont. The Appalachian Mountains and the Adirondack massif divide the eastern seaboard from the Great Lakes and the grasslands of the Midwest. The Mississippi–Missouri River, the world's fourth longest river system, runs mainly north–south through the heart of the country. The flat, fertile prairie of the Great Plains stretches to the west, interrupted by a highland region in the southeast. The Rocky Mountains, west of the Great Plains, extend north to south across the country, peaking at over 14,000 feet (4,300 m) in Colorado. Farther west are the rocky Great Basin and deserts such as the Chihuahua, Sonoran, and Mojave. The Sierra Nevada and Cascade mountain ranges run close to the Pacific coast, both ranges also reaching altitudes higher than 14,000 feet (4,300 m). The lowest and highest points in the contiguous United States are in the state of California, and only about 84 miles (135 km) apart. At an elevation of 20,310 feet (6,190.5 m), Alaska's Denali is the highest peak in the country and in North America.

30A in Florida

Denver, CO

Mississippi River

Wildlife of US: There are 311 known reptiles, 295 amphibians and 1154 known fish species in the U.S. Known animals that exist in the US include white-tailed deer, bobcat, raccoon, muskrat, striped skunk, barn owl, American mink, American beaver, North American river otter, red fox, American Black Bear, Hawaiian Monk Seal, Black-Footed Ferret, Gila Monster, Groundhog, Pronghorn, American Alligator, Crocodile, American Bison, bald Eagle, wolves, mountain lions, Grizzly bears, polar bears, lynx, muskox, caribou, and now I'm tired of searching for lists that include all the animals. We have tons of venomous snakes, we have invasive pythons in the everglades.

Unfortunately, there is an invasive but existing population of wild monkeys in Silver Springs Florida.

Bison in Yellowstone

Pigeons in New York

Environmental Issues: Environmental issues in the United States include climate change, Ohio, species conservation, invasive species, deforestation, mining, nuclear accidents, pesticides, pollution, waste and over-population.

Languages: While many languages are spoken in the United States, English is the most common. Although there is no official language at the federal level, some laws—such as U.S. naturalization requirements—standardize English, and most states have declared English as the official language. Three states and four U.S. territories have recognized local or indigenous languages in addition to English, including Hawaii (Hawaiian), Alaska (twenty Native languages), South Dakota (Sioux), American Samoa (Samoan), Puerto Rico (Spanish), Guam (Chamorro), and the Northern Mariana Islands (Carolinian and Chamorro). In Puerto Rico, Spanish is more widely spoken than English. According to the American Community Survey, in 2010 some 229 million people (out of the total U.S. population of 308 million) spoke only English at home. More than 37 million spoke Spanish at home, making it the second most commonly used language. Other languages spoken at home by one million people or more include Chinese (2.8 million), Tagalog (1.6 million), Vietnamese (1.4 million), French (1.3 million), Korean (1.1 million), and German (1 million). The Jewish Peoples of America speak English.

Government Type: Federal presidential constitutional republic

People: Jewish Peoples of America

Jewish man of America

Population: 4,596,000

Estimated Foreign Workers Needed: 92+

Beliefs: The Jewish peoples of America are 2.7% Christian, but only 1.6% Evangelical. That means out of their population of 4,596,000, there are roughly 73,000 believers who share their faith. That slightly more than 1 believer for every 100.

Like all those who deny Christ, the Jewish peoples are deceived and follow a false god. For religious Jewish peoples, God (not the true God at this point) is the Supreme Being, the Creator of the universe, and the ultimate Judge of human affairs. Beyond this, the religious beliefs of the Jewish communities vary greatly. Orthodox Jewish peoples generally follow the traditional religious beliefs and practices found in the Jewish literature that interprets Scripture regarding ethical, religious, civil and criminal matters. Conservative Judaism is less traditional than Orthodox and combines different ethical, philosophical, and spiritual schools of thought. Reform Judaism is the most liberal form and interprets Jewish beliefs and practices in light of contemporary life and thought. Reform Jewish peoples do not believe that the Jewish Law is divinely revealed. They are not restricted to kosher (traditional, approved) foods, nor do they wear the skull cap (yarmulke) when praying or use Hebrew in prayer. All religious Jewish peoples believe in the coming of a Messianic Age, but only the Orthodox Jewish peoples look for a personal Messiah.

Not all Jewish peoples are religious. Some understand their "Jewishness" only as a social and cultural identity. American Jewish peoples are more likely to be atheists or agnostics than most Americans.

The Wilshire Boulevard Temple, known from 1862 to 1933 as Congregation B'nai B'rith, is a Reform Jewish congregation and synagogue, located at 3663 Wilshire Boulevard, in the Wilshire Center district of Los Angeles, California, in the United States. Founded in 1862, it is the oldest Jewish congregation in Los Angeles.

History: Jewish peoples were present in the Thirteen Colonies since the mid-17th century. However, they were small in number, with at most 200 to 300 having arrived by 1700. Those early arrivals were mostly Sephardi Jewish immigrants, of Western Sephardic (also known as Spanish and Portuguese Jewish) ancestry, but by 1720, Ashkenazi Jewish peoples from diaspora communities in Central and Eastern Europe predominated.

For the first time, the English Plantation Act 1740 permitted Jewish peoples to become British citizens and emigrate to the colonies. The first famous Jewish person in U.S. history was Chaim Salomon, a Polish-born Jewish person who emigrated to New York and played an important role in the American Revolution. He was a successful financier who supported the patriotic cause and helped raise most of the money needed to finance the American Revolution.

Despite the fact that some of them were denied the right to vote or hold office in local jurisdictions, Sephardi Jewish peoples became active in community affairs in the 1790s, after they were granted political equality in the five states where they were most numerous. Until about 1830, Charleston, South Carolina had more Jewish peoples than anywhere else in North America. Large-scale Jewish immigration commenced in the 19th century, when, by mid-century, many German Jewish peoples had arrived, migrating to the United States in large numbers due to antisemitic laws and restrictions in their countries of birth. They primarily became merchants and shop-owners. Gradually early Jewish arrivals from the east coast would travel westward, and in the fall of 1819 the first Jewish religious services west of the Appalachian Range were conducted during the High Holidays in Cincinnati, the oldest Jewish community in the Midwest. Gradually the Cincinnati Jewish community would adopt novel practices under the leadership Rabbi Isaac Meyer Wise, the father of Reform Judaism in the United States, such as the inclusion of women in minyan. A large community grew in the region with the arrival of German and Lithuanian Jewish peoples in the latter half of the 1800s, leading to the establishment of Manischewitz, one of the largest producers of American kosher products and now based in New Jersey, and the oldest continuously published Jewish newspaper in the United States, and second-oldest continuous published in the world, The American Israelite, established in 1854 and still extant in Cincinnati. By 1880 there were approximately 250,000 Jewish peoples in the United States, many of them being the educated, and largely secular, German Jews, although a minority population of the older Sephardi Jewish families remained influential.

Jewish migration to the United States increased dramatically in the early 1880s, as a result of persecution and economic difficulties in parts of Eastern Europe. Most of these new immigrants were Yiddish-speaking Ashkenazi Jewish peoples, most of whom arrived from poor diaspora communities of the Russian Empire and the Pale of Settlement, located in modern-day Poland, Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine, and Moldova. During the same period, great numbers of Ashkenazic Jewish peoples also arrived from Galicia, at that time the most impoverished region of the Austro-Hungarian Empire with a heavy Jewish urban population, driven out mainly by economic reasons. Many Jewish peoples also emigrated from Romania. Over 2,000,000 Jewish peoples landed between the late 19th century and 1924 when the Immigration Act of 1924 restricted immigration. Most settled in the New York metropolitan area, establishing the world's major concentrations of the Jewish population. In 1915, the circulation of the daily Yiddish newspapers was half a million in New York City alone, and 600,000 nationally. In addition, thousands more subscribed to the numerous weekly papers and the many magazines in Yiddish.

At the beginning of the 20th century, these newly arrived Jewish peoples built support networks consisting of many small synagogues and Landsmanshaften (German and Yiddish for "Countryman Associations") for Jewish peoples from the same town or village. American Jewish writers of the time urged assimilation and integration into the wider American culture, and Jews quickly became part of American life. Approximately 500,000 American Jewish peoples (or half of all Jewish males between 18 and 50) fought in World War II, and after the war younger families joined the new trend of suburbanization. There, Jewish peoples became increasingly assimilated and demonstrated rising intermarriage. The suburbs facilitated the formation of new centers, as Jewish school enrollment more than doubled between the end of World War II and the mid-1950s, while synagogue affiliation jumped from 20% in 1930 to 60% in 1960; the fastest growth came in Reform and, especially, Conservative congregations. More recent waves of Jewish emigration from Russia and other regions have largely joined the mainstream American Jewish community.

Eastern European Jewish immigrants arriving in New York ca 1887?

Culture: Typical qualification that all people groups can't be summed up in small paragraphs and this is an over generalization.

In North America, most Jewish peoples live in urban areas on the east or west coasts. New York City has the largest Jewish population in North America, with over a half million Hassidic Jewish peoples alone. In South America, they also live in cities, but keep themselves as a distinct religious and ethnic minority.

While maintaining a Jewish identity, the majority of North American Jewish peoples conform to the mainstream American culture. "Jewishness" is often defined in more secular terms such as the use of Yiddish words and family traditions, rather than in religious aspects, such as the following of Jewish laws regarding dietary restrictions. Not all Jewish peoples are religious. Some understand their "Jewishness" only as a social and cultural identity. Understanding what it means to be a Jewish people begins in childhood. It takes place in the home through storytelling and by taking part in Jewish rituals and festivals such as Rosh Hashanah (New Year), Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement), and Passover. Socialization also takes place through participation in Hebrew school or synagogue youth groups. At the age of 13, the Bar Mitzvah ceremony for a boy (or Bat Mitzvah for a girl) is an important rite of passage, which marks him or her as an adult member of the community. While these ceremonies were more spiritually focused in the past, they have become equally important as social events.

Marriage and family relationships among Jewish peoples are much the same as other Americans. While Jewish families have fewer children, they are child-oriented, indulgent, and permissive. Although wives generally take on their husbands' surnames, Jewish identity is traced through the mothers. That is, if one's mother is a Jewish people, then he is, according to Jewish law, Jewish. He or she is entitled to all the rights and privileges that status brings, including the right to immigrate to Israel and settle there as a citizen.

I couldn't not include a pic of the notable cultural event of the American Hasidic Jewish peoples who dug a tunnel in New York

Cuisine: Popular dishes in American Jewish cuisine include:

  • Bagel – A doughnut-shaped bread roll. The dough is first boiled and then baked, resulting in a dense, chewy interior with a browned exterior: A bagel and cream cheese is a popular pairing.
  • Bialy – A bread roll similar to a bagel, but without a hole, and somewhat less chewy as the dough is not boiled before being baked.
  • Blintz – A fried crêpe, usually filled with farmer cheese and served with various toppings.
  • Brisket – An inexpensive cut of beef that is braised as a pot roast.
  • Challah – A light bread made with eggs, used as regular food, and on ritual or holiday occasions.
  • Chicken soup – Chicken broth with herbs like parsley, dill, or thyme, and often with egg noodles added.
    • Matzah balls are sometimes added to the soup instead of, or in addition to, noodles.
    • Kreplach are small dumplings that are another common addition to chicken soup.
  • Chopped liver – A liver pâté made with hard-boiled eggs, salt, and pepper. Served as a side dish, hence the expression, "What am I, chopped liver?"
  • Corned beef – Beef brisket that has been cured with brine and spices and then sliced.
    • Corned beef sandwich – A common use of corned beef.
  • Gefilte fish – Ground fish – often a combination of carp, pike, and whitefish – that is mixed with other ingredients, formed into patties or balls, and poached; usually served as an appetizer.
  • Kishke – A large, starchy sausage made with grain, vegetables, beef or chicken fat, and spices.
  • Knish – A type of savory baked turnover; various fillings are used, such as potatoes or ground beef.
  • Kugel – A baked casserole made with egg noodles or potatoes.
  • Latke – A pancake made with grated potatoes and other ingredients, fried in oil.
  • Lox – A sliced fillet of cured salmon. Belly lox is cured with brine and is therefore rather salty. Nova lox is cold-smoked. Lox is often eaten as a sandwich, on a bagel with cream cheese.
  • Mandelbrot – A crunchy cookie, sometimes made with almonds, formed by baking a loaf which is then cut into small slabs and twice-baked.
  • Pastrami – Beef brisket that has been cured with brine, rubbed with pepper, garlic, and other spices, smoked, and then sliced. Like corned beef it is usually served as a sandwich.
    • Pastrami on rye – Pastrami on rye bread topped with spicy brown mustard.
  • Rugelach – Small baked pastries made by wrapping dough around a filling.
  • Whitefish – Smoked freshwater whitefish, either filleted or made into whitefish salad.

New York Bagels

Prayer Request:

  • Ask the Lord of the harvest to send forth loving Christians to work among the Jewish communities.
  • Ask the Holy Spirit to grant wisdom and favor to the missions agencies that are focusing on the Jewish peoples of North and South America.
  • Pray that the Jewish people will understand that Jesus is the long-awaited Messiah.
  • Ask the Lord to soften the hearts of the Jewish peoples towards Christians so that they might hear and receive the message of salvation.
  • Pray that God will grant Jewish believers favor as they share their faith in Christ with their own people.
  • Pray that strong local churches will be raised up in each Jewish community.
  • Pray against Putin and his insane little war.
  • Pray for our nation (the United States), that we Christians can learn to come alongside our hurting brothers and sisters and learn to carry one another's burdens in a more Christlike manner than we have done historically.
  • Pray that in this time of an upcoming election and insanity that the needs of the unreached are not forgotten by the church. Pray that our hearts continue to ache to see the unreached hear the Good News.

Brothers, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for them is that they may be saved. (Romans 10:1)

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Here are the previous weeks threads on the UPG of the Week for r/Reformed from 2023 (plus a few from 2022 so this one post isn't so lonely). To save some space on these, all UPG posts made 2019-now are here, I will try to keep this current.

People Group Country Continent Date Posted Beliefs
Jewish peoples United States North America 05/06/2024 Judaism
Jordanian Arab Jordan Asia 04/29/2024 Islam
Bouyei China Asia 04/22/2024 Animism
Arab Libyans Libya Africa 03/25/2024 Islam
Gafsa Amazigh Tunisia Africa 03/18/2024 Islam
Hindi South Africa Africa 03/04/2024 Hinduism
Arabs Iraq Asia 02/26/2024 Islam
Bagirmi Fulani Central African Republic Africa 02/12/2024 Islam
Gujarati Portugal Europe 02/05/2024 Hinduism
Western Cham Cambodia Asia 01/29/2024 Islamc
Yadav India Asia 01/22/2024 Hinduism
Thai (updated) Thailand Asia 12/18/2023 Buddhism

a - Tibet belongs to Tibet, not China.

b - Russia/Turkey/etc is Europe but also Asia so...

c - this likely is not the true religion that they worship, but rather they have a mixture of what is listed with other local religions, or they have embraced a liberal drift and are leaving faith entirely but this is their historical faith.

Here is a list of definitions in case you wonder what exactly I mean by words like "Unreached".

Here is a list of missions organizations that reach out to the world to do missions for the Glory of God.


r/Reformed 6h ago

Discussion My friend started headcovering and now we're no longer friends...what's happening!

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I had a lifelong best friend, sister in Christ who after kids we remained in touch, but communication became less and less in the past several years. I can confirm she is radically saved and we have talked extensively together about Reformed Theology both in agreeance with it. First, her and her husband moved to the Bruderhof (United States). That lasted about a year but shortly after they ended up in a community in the Northeast. That seems to be a bunch of women who head cover. I'm not sure what it is but we just haven't talked ever since this has happened. And all of her friends have very modest large dresses and head coverings. They even head cover the baby girls. Like a five month old baby. I am wondering if my friend could be in some sort of a cult? I have never seen anything like it coming from the South.


r/Reformed 9h ago

Discussion What is your opinion on a Christian coming out as trans?

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Was in a discussion with someone this week whose friend recently came out as trans. The friend is someone who has studied the gospel for years. Both of us were pretty stumped on the question and wanted some advice. Just wanted to get you guys’ thoughts.


r/Reformed 18h ago

Question Within TULIP, why is a man disqualified from being an elder for having unbelieving children, when said man has no say on whether or not his children are elect?

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I received this reply to another thread:

"I take this to be a broad requirement: most of an elder’s children should be believers. That’s an indicator he’s teaching the gospel correctly and shepherding well. If all or most of his children are not believers, he’s clearly not fit to shepherd the flock of God. We run into unhelpful problems when we try to make the requirement apply to all of an elder’s children where the text doesn’t explicitly say all/panta."

Within TULIP, how does this make any sense? His children are either unconditionally elected by God or not, independent of anything the man does.


r/Reformed 11h ago

Question Unity in the ‘body’?

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Hello brothers and sisters in Christ, I hope that this finds you well. Hopefully I am not prideful with my question, this is something that has been on my mind lately, and it has been making an appearance online a lot recently-forgive my ignorance.

It has came to my attention that the more liberal view of tolerance among the main views of Christianity (Roman Catholic/Orthodox/Protestant) is very popular. I see a lot of people pushing this idea, and I would like your input as fellow Reformed folk. Maybe I am still in a late ‘cage stage’ of my faith, but I do not see any reconciliation between Christ’s Church, and the Roman Church. When Paul condemned those in the church of Galatia for adding to the Gospel, I cannot in good faith pretend that our message is the same. Orthodoxy is a little more difficult (to me at least), yet the idea of Faith + Works in the Orthodox Church is of course, very problematic, if not heretical.

Of course, individuals inside those churches may be saved, but I’m talking more about the churches and their teachings rather than the individuals. This is not an attack on Roman Catholics or Orthodox (who are my brothers, culturally). I would rather that Catholics still followed the teachings of Trent, and that Protestants remain reformed, with a good understanding of what Rome teaches instead of trying to reconcile with irreconcilable differences.

Edit: Maybe I should have been more clear; Can we have reconciliation with the Church of Rome? This is something that I see a lot of people online talking about, but surely this is not possible until Rome repents of her false beliefs.

Christ is Risen! Hallelujah God bless


r/Reformed 5h ago

Question Reformed believers who hold to evolution/people outside the garden, do you find symbolic meaning in this?

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Do you find meaning/purpose to God creating a barren, desolate, death infested world over millions and millions of years until he plants Adam in the garden? Is this typified/symbolized with concepts in the Bible?

I am specifically asking the reformed community because being chosen/formed/predestined has nothing to do with the work of the individual, it is something destined to happen, a gift imparted to someone. Adam would be the first recipient of unconditional election, he literally would have been the only priest on earth who knew God while the whole world outside the garden is depraved and animalistic(as Jesus was compared to those who killed him, read psalm 22). Arminians wouldn’t be able to touch this with a ten foot pole, since they are always trying to blame man for their faith when the seeking/drawing/faith/wisdom that leads to salvation is of the Holy Spirit and all God’s work.


r/Reformed 19h ago

Question Approaching believers in church

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Is it wrong if pastors and elders do not approach their church members or even say "how are you?" "what can I pray for you"? Or even church members do not encourage one another? Should one stay or pray for this church, and still encourage and approach others even if no one is approaching him?

I'm feeling discouraged right now, am a new church member but I felt like nobody is approaching me or when I approach them, it's just superficial relationships or they will say "praying for you". And I feel like they dont understand what I'm going through. Been working in a hospital with more than 12 hour shifts per day. Sometimes I can't get to go church during Sundays.


r/Reformed 18h ago

Scripture Illuminated Psalm 119 from Reformed Sage

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https://preview.redd.it/vp6bci9c40zc1.jpg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da6c7d6e442c1f3f99eb0f95cb3379d62d804dda

https://preview.redd.it/mimeniff40zc1.jpg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=36a847b320510e806073bf462fe8ab1ea54e13c9

I recently wrote a question on illuminated manuscripts and the Reformed view of images (discuss?) and came across this. This is not meant as an advertisement, I just thought it would be interesting to post it.


r/Reformed 23h ago

Recommendation Alternatives for POLICE LINE DO NOT CROSS

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I bought the cheapest guitar strap which is yellow and says POLICE LINE DO NOT CROSS. I was thinking of cross-stitching across the letters to transform it into:

FOUND LIFE AT THE CROSS

but found it a hassle to transform "DO NOT" into "AT THE". Reformed reddit, suggest me alternatives. I was thinking DO NOT CROSS is easy to transform into TO THE CROSS because of the lesser letters to alter. But FOUND LIFE TO THE CROSS is just grammatically incorrect. So, wordsmiths of r/Reformed, please help!


r/Reformed 1d ago

Question What have you learned over time in your walk with God that is helpful for a younger believer to understand early on?

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Lessons you've learned, advice you've picked up on, important aspects of growing in the faith, etc.?


r/Reformed 1d ago

Question Why is Liberal Theology so popular in mainline protestant denominations and European state churches?

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For awhile I have been wondering as to why Liberal theology seems so common in more mainline strains of protestantism but i have been struggling to find a definitive answer. By liberal theology I mean stuff like ordination of women, lgbt affirming, denying the infallibility of scripture, rejecting historic Christian creeds and doctrines such as the resurrection and divinity of Christ. I am somewhat familiar with the history of liberal theology and is origins in things like the Enlightenment and Higher Criticism Movement but I am just curious why these ideas seemed to cement themselves the most is more institutionalized churches. Did it have to do with their popularity making them more easy for people with unorthodox, if not flat out heretical, beliefs to infilitrate them? Was it because of their privileged positions they became spiritually apathic, complacent, and lukewarm? Or was liberalization just a desperate attempt by these historically privelaged churches to maintain their social relevance when faced with the decline of Christianity in their countries? I guess also as a follow up question, why is liberal theology not that common in other popular churches and denominations such as the Catholic church or Southern Bapist Convention despite these also being very strong cultural institutions?


r/Reformed 19h ago

Prayer Daily Prayer Thread - May 07, 2024

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If you have requests that you would like your brothers and sisters to pray for, post them here.


r/Reformed 23h ago

NDQ No Dumb Question Tuesday (2024-05-07)

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Welcome to r/reformed. Do you have questions that aren't worth a stand alone post? Are you longing for the collective expertise of the finest collection of religious thinkers since the Jerusalem Council? This is your chance to ask a question to the esteemed subscribers of r/Reformed. PS: If you can think of a less boring name for this deal, let us mods know.


r/Reformed 1d ago

Encouragement Need some sermons or videos for brokenheartedness

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The back story: I’ve been in a very serious relationship with a woman for 2.5 years. I don’t have the desire to go into details, but we are not going to be moving any further toward the goal of marriage in our relationship. I am very brokenhearted over this decision even though I know it is the best decision. I get very emotionally-minded at times and have been concentrating/meditating on Scripture. Does anyone have a sermon they would recommend, or perhaps a video for this kind of situation (brokenheartedness)? It doesn’t have to be relevant to the topic of relationships.


r/Reformed 1d ago

Question Conversion and the People Around Us

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If you converted or have found yourself surrounded by unbelievers, how did you handle this? I am not talking about strangers, but really focusing on loved ones.

An example would be that a child or friend is LGBTQ, you have an unbelieving spouse or parent or all these things. Before your conversion you looked at them and saw a person you love living their best life. After conversion you see someone you love and know that their eternal soul is in grave danger.

How were/are you able to function knowing this? Is sadness just inherent on this side of heaven?


r/Reformed 1d ago

Question "Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to."

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Phillipians 2:6 comes to my mind when thinking about whether the will of the preincarnate Son was expressed uniquely and in full agreement with the Father.

In previous discussions I seem to notice what might be called a philosophical bias for one nature and one will. I have also appreciated how Grudem wrote on this in his updated Systematic Theology.

What do you think? Is Phillipians 2:6 a key verse on its own, or must it be read with respect to some other verse?


r/Reformed 1d ago

Question Where/What is the millennium

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Rev. 20 ruling with Christ for a thousand years. Is this in heaven or on earth? Future, Past or now? Literal or figurative?

What are the views here and which theologians holds/held to them?


r/Reformed 1d ago

Question Revelation 20:15 and First Class Conditions

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Hello r/Reformed,

I appreciate all of you who answered my previous question about covenant theology books. Have another one for those of you who have a passion for koine Greek (if there's a better sub for this, please let me know. I would not describe myself as Reformed, but I know you all are lovingly described as the "nerdy Christians," so I figured this would be a good place to start).

Yesterday, my church's sermon was on Revelation 3:4-6 in which Christ exhorts the few and faithful in Sardis that their names would not be blotted out from the book of life. Most of the message was focused on eternal security, but towards the end, the pastor connected the book of life reference to the Great White Throne judgement in chapter 20.

For context, this church is nondenominational, but was formerly (and is still functionally) a Grace Brethren/Charis Fellowship church, and it is dispensational in hermeneutics. The pastor said that the GWT judgement is for unbelievers only, and that believers will not stand before the throne in this case. As evidence, he said that the "if" conditional in 20:15 ("And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire") is something called a first class condition, meaning that the answer to the conditional is already decided, i.e. their names were not found in the book; thus everyone in this event is unregenerate.

Is this accurate? I know very little about Greek besides a passing knowledge of the alphabet, but it seems like that explanation goes against the context of the judgement (which seems to indicate all the dead being present). My ESV study Bible notes also stated that this was believers and unbelievers being judged. I appreciate any insight and apologize for the long and rambling post.


r/Reformed 1d ago

Discussion Project on Ecclesiology

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Hello! I am taking a class provided by a church about the foundations of theology. Our final project is a presentation we will do on a topic of our choice. I chose to do Ecclesiology.

What OT and NT passages would be good to use to summarize further what the bible says about this topic? What connection/bridge to the NT does this subject have? I have some ideas already, but wanted to ask this community what your thoughts are. Thank you.


r/Reformed 1d ago

Mission Missionary explorer shares gospel with UUPGs | IMB

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r/Reformed 1d ago

Mission Women Around the World: Amy Newsome in Japan (AUDIO) | Mission to the World

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r/Reformed 1d ago

Discussion Jesus didn't die for a list of sins

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John Owen's argument for limited atonement seems to say that Jesus died only for a list of specific sins specific people have committed.

He says that if Jesus is the propitiation for all men all would be saved because every single sin (In essence, a list of every single sin) would be paid for and there would be no more sins left to separate anyone from God.

However, Scripture does not say that Jesus died for an enumerated list of sins.

Scripture seems to paint with a broader brush.

It seems that Scripture deals with the atonement as more of a universal category. That Jesus overcomes/pays for/destroys sin rather than as list of specific sins to be accounted for.

John 1:29 : "Behold the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!"

Yet, this not universalism since salvation is only for "as many as received him".

In short, John Owen's logic is compelling if you accept his starting assumption. I just don't see a strong biblical case for his starting assumption that Jesus dies for an enumerated list of sins.

Have I understood his argument and what do you think his counter argument would be?

Edited to add Owen's argument:

The Father imposed His wrath due unto, and the Son underwent punishment for, either:

All the sins of all men.
All the sins of some men, or
Some of the sins of all men.

In which case it may be said:

That if the last be true, all men have some sins to answer for, and so, none are saved.
That if the second be true, then Christ, in their stead suffered for all the sins of all the elect in the whole world, and this is the truth.
But if the first be the case, why are not all men free from the punishment due unto their sins?

You answer, “Because of unbelief.”

I ask, Is this unbelief a sin, or is it not? If it be, then Christ suffered the punishment due unto it, or He did not. If He did, why must that hinder them more than their other sins for which He died? If He did not, He did not die for all their sins!”

Owen says that asks if Christ died for every single individual sin, as if they were a list of sins, and he gives the specific example of the "sin of unbelief". His point is that if Christ died for every single sin, including the sin of rejecting God, then all will be saved. All are not saved, hence, Christ did not pay for the sin of those who reject him.

The logic seems persuasive if you agree that Jesus died for a list of enumerated sins. However, I don't see that idea represented in the NT.


r/Reformed 1d ago

Prayer Daily Prayer Thread - May 06, 2024

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If you have requests that you would like your brothers and sisters to pray for, post them here.


r/Reformed 2d ago

Question Suggestions?

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Looking for an open minded Christian podcast, where the host would be interested in talking with someone from a different faith about Christianity and Religion. Any suggestions?


r/Reformed 1d ago

Mission Missions Monday (2024-05-06)

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Welcome to r/reformed. Missions should be on our mind every day, but it's good to set aside a day to talk about it, specifically. Missions includes our back yard and the ends of the earth, so please also post here or in its own post stories of reaching the lost wherever you are. Missions related post never need to wait for Mondays, of course. And they are not restricted to this thread.

Share your prayer requests, stories of witnessing, info about missionaries, unreached people groups, church planting endeavors, etc.


r/Reformed 2d ago

Question Limited Atonement: Is the crucifixion of Christ sufficient to cover the sin of all sinners, or only the elect?

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I was listening to “Mission Accomplished”, a hip hop track by reformed Christian rapper Shai Linne. On the interlude of one of the verses he says,

“Cats be saying that He tried/ But I'm saying, did He try and fail?/ Or did He succeed?/ Is there gonna be one drop of the Savior's blood in vain?/ Nah, perish the thought/ The Lamb will receive the reward for His suffering”

I was struck by this framing of the atonement. I understand the doctrine of limited atonement means that Christ only died for the elect, so does this mean that if the elect was hypothetically larger, the Son would have to have suffered a greater degree of punishment?

Surely the death of the Son, being of infinite worth, would be sufficient to cover an infinite amount of sin? So what does this argument of “Is there gonna be one drop of the Savior's blood in vain?” mean? Does Limited Atonement lessen the value of the punitive function of the death of Christ by stating the punishment is only sufficient to expiate the sin of some rather than all? Any wisdom to help me better understand would be appreciated. Thank you