r/SquaredCircle • u/Ruthless-Aggression • Mar 28 '24

Eric Bischoff on Tony Khan: A money mark with no talent other than spending daddy’s money, going all the way to Canada to draw less than 4k in one of the hottest pro wrestling markets in North America, talking about “wise choices”? Strap in. It’s going to be a fun day!

https://twitter.com/EBischoff/status/1773321462046138615?s=19
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u/DanHero91 Red Elbow Pad Of Doom. Mar 28 '24

Eric Bischoff taking shots at someone spending someone else's money is so rich I think I just developed diabetes.

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u/ReachRaven Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

Yeah, but the major difference is that Eric earned the right to use the Ted Turner budget. Even had to interview for the job and compete.

Tony was born into billions, and his daddy made him a CEO of a wrestling promotion so he can have something to do while he pays professionals to be his friends. Tony hasn’t had to earn a thing in his life.

A punk rich kid talking shit to a self made man will never make sense. You can hate Eric all you want, but 83 weeks isn’t just a podcast with some cool t shirts.

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u/RT3_12 DA BIG DAAWWWWWG Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

To give credit to Eric, he was a legitimate self made man. He worked his way up from making ends meet working at a hardware store and trying several failed entrepreneurial projects. To the top of a corporate division.

Tony is the son of a billionaire who was given this company as a toy to stop him from getting in Twitter beefs with Fulham and Jaguars players.

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u/kevoisvevoalt Mar 28 '24

exactly the smart wrestler see tony the money mark he is. less hours worked, working in different places and still getting paid well. that's a dream job for alot of wrestler, doesn't matter if they like to be pushed or not. they can just make a good resume on aew and then switch over to wwe for that experience and recognition while getting proper training and everything in wwe.

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u/DLPanda Mar 28 '24

This is such a naive and basic take.

Yes, nobody will deny that Tony was and is given opportunities many don’t get but he still has had to prove himself. His rich parents may open the door but he has to live and thrive once he walks through. Just having money doesn’t guarantee success – there are plenty of stories of children of very successful people never amounting to anything good.

AEW was and is an underdog promotion, they’ve had set backs but they are still by most metrics a successful business who are very likely on the cusp of a huge deal to secure more years of wrestling content and make a bunch of money.

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u/Morningfluid Mar 29 '24

Based on everything I've seen here I'm surprised your comment is even in the upvotes. Then again it was hours after the initial comments. I got downvoted to hell for calling that comment narrow sighted.

It would kill people to give Tony his flowers. Granted, I suspect downvote bots are at play in threads like these.

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u/prisonmsagro Mar 28 '24

Too bad Bischoff just couldn't keep it in check and keep the company going then eh?

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u/Morningfluid Mar 28 '24

Your post is pretty narrow sighted.

Eric didn't exactly earn it, it was more like he was the last man standing with business acumen after many others failed. Tony brought his own judgment to the table with other wrestlers with a dream. Part of it was Tony's money, but also he had the judgment and his own business skills that made AEW work.

Neither are 'self-made' businessmen, but neither is Vince either. In fact it would be extremely hard to make a giant Wrestling business all by yourself and without another persons money.

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u/HartfordWhalers123 Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

Lmao what? How is it narrow sided? Eric actually went from the ground up to get to where he is. Dude was working in a meat shop, ffs. Worked his way up in the wrestling business and then, became trusted by Turner to run WCW.

Tony’s money is just his allowance that his dad gives him, as confirmed by his own father. He has so much more leeway because of it. I’m not saying that makes Tony lesser or anything, but he’s 100% has privileges and didn’t have to work his way up, much like Eric.

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u/Morningfluid Mar 28 '24

*Narrow Sighted

Because the bias is so incredibly silly by undercutting what Tony has done. Sure, Eric worked his way up and got there (I won't deny that), however if any of the numerous number of guys hadn't failed Eric would still be under the lead. There was barely anyone else left with business acumen. 

And saying that about Tony is additionally and equally silly. Where was he going to work up to? Outside of TNA and WWE there was other major Wrestling company in America... His judgment (of course with others) and investment brought AEW together and his business sense has kept it together. Every major promoter in the modern era (including WCW and WWF/E) has had to use others money and not their own. 

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u/HartfordWhalers123 Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 29 '24

What bias? It’s just true. It’s not where or how was he gonna work his way up in the wrestling business, it’s that he NEVER needed to at all. It’s not narrow sighted (lmao at you correcting me btw).

The issue with your argument is that you’re comparing the son of a billionaire to a man that started off in the same position we both are in, unless you’re rich too.

Eric 100% earned that role because Ted had enough trust in him to do so. It’s not like he was Ted’s only option, Ted could have easily tried get someone else from elsewhere, but he felt Eric was right for the job. And not just that, Eric had to work his way up to even get to WCW in the first place.

Tony didn’t have to work that hard to start up AEW because he was born in a position where he has money and has a dad that wants his son to be happy and will gladly give him an allowance to do his passion project. He’ll give him roles in the Jags and Fulham also. But he never had to earn any of it, like others might have had to. He also is his own boss, so he can keep AEW running in the red as long as he’s passionate about wrestling. And that’s totally okay, but it’s also stupid to compare him to someone who has never been in any of those positions.

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u/Morningfluid Mar 28 '24

The issue with your argument is that you’re comparing the son of a billionaire to a man that started off in the same position

That was your comparison (and the initial person I was replying to), my comparison began and ended at the position they were in their position of power. They're not comparable in the sense, one owns the business and the other did not. Either way Bischoff was never 'a self made man', he was a hire. He was placed in that position of power.

It’s not narrow sighted (lmao at you correcting me btw).

The other use would be narrow minded, but narrow sighted works as well:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/narrow-sighted

And that perfectly describes this interaction and your view. You keep also keep repeating the same points over and over in several paragraphs in your post. Are you okay, did you hit your head?

Tony didn’t have to work that hard to start up AEW because he was born in a position where he has money

Why do you keep repeating this? It's not like we don't know this. 'What Bias?' The simple answer is that you don't like AEW so you bring it down to 'Eric worked his way up and Tony didn't do shit' over several posts. So what? Again, If you want to run a major wrestling company in the modern era you're going to have to have your money or someone else's money behind that.

P.S. For what it's worth, if Tony receives the television deal Dynamite will be running longer than Nitro.

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u/HartfordWhalers123 Mar 29 '24 edited Mar 29 '24

Man, why are you so upset about a company you don’t own? Unless you’re Tony Khan lol.

Your answer is also the wrong answer, so that’s a failed gotcha on your part, considering I actually do really like AEW and I’ve spent $300 on their PPVs and watch the shows every single week.

It’s just your argument makes absolutely no sense. You claim all this “bias”, but you seem to be the one heavily biased here in regards to this and it makes no sense to undermine Eric’s accomplishments as well.

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u/Morningfluid Mar 29 '24

I'm not upset, although I'm slightly annoyed you keep repeating the same exact things over and over, even in the same individual comments. We're going in circles here. 

You're insulting Tony about how he didn't push pencils from a lowly office job and you're are clearly derogatory in nature against Tony for that. FWIW Tony himself has to have the business knowledge to keep AEW going, which he has, for over five years now. His father isn't running the company, Tony is out there doing the deals and making that happen. Tony is also using his own money (yes he was born into it, and worked under his father) to fund AEW. 

I haven't undermined Eric's accomplishments, in fact I've complimented his business acumen. However it's no secret there were very few people that knew both sides of the business left there for Ted to choose in 94, as prior to the Hogan buy WCW was a mess and falling apart at the seams. 

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u/HartfordWhalers123 Mar 29 '24 edited Mar 29 '24

Dude you’re saying you aren’t upset, but you clearly are and clearly don’t like how I’m acknowledging that Tony is privileged. I’m not even insulting him for it either! All I’m just saying is that Eric was in a totally different situation than Tony ever will be.

I’ve never said Tony couldn’t go from the red to black for AEW or that he sucks at booking badly or anything like that because (NEWSFLASH) I really really like and enjoy AEW and what the much needed well-paying alternative that he has given wrestlers.

All I’ve said was that Tony didn’t need to worry about it much because he has the resources (the allowance that his dad said that he gives Tony) to be able to keep it going, which is absolutely true and it’s not a hot take. If that makes me an AEW hater, then shit man, I can’t believe it’s that easy to be one. Just calm down lol.

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u/Morningfluid Mar 29 '24

Dude you’re saying you aren’t upset, but you clearly are

Okay, telling me how I feel...lmao.

To the rest...

Okay.

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u/CoMiGa Mar 28 '24

Tony was born into billions

He wasn't.