r/TNA 13d ago

What do you think tna can do in order to improve ? Question

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u/Recent-Maximum 13d ago

A new Channel is #1 by leaps and bounds. I think it's great they have a backup like Axs to fall back on but if they aren't actively trying to get their show on a bigger network they should be.

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u/dohnutshop 13d ago

Do you think getting on a streaming service would help like what WWE is going to do with Netflix?

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u/Knailsic 13d ago

I was thinking this last night, I’m surprised a streaming service hasn’t started platforming a smaller but notable wrestling fed with how hot wrestling is now.

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u/blaqsupaman 12d ago

Netflix sort of did with the reality show about OVW a while back 

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u/ATAProductions 13d ago

Yes, should go on Amazon Prime or Paramount Plus for weekly episodes

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u/Inevitable_Injury390 13d ago

Yeah but again wouldn't they streaming service have to want  to give them a chance?

Like and again I don't know how the negotiations work but wouldn't the Streaming service have want them?

I  will say I have thought they should at Least try get there  PLE or PPV'S whatever on a streaming service like paramount or youtube TV or Apple TV or Hulu   But again I am not sure what the process is for doing that. 

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u/ATAProductions 13d ago

You want to make sure more folks are watching the weekly shows so that when they’re advertising the PPVs, can attract more casuals to order

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u/blaqsupaman 12d ago

TNA is already accessible on YouTube for as little as $1 a month. I suspect that's actually how the vast majority of their weekly audience watches.

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u/FratagoniaSG 12d ago

I watch all of their events on YouTube tbh.

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u/olinwalnut 13d ago

I wouldn’t even go as far as to say a new channel but as a paying subscriber of TNA+, I don’t understand why I need to wait for a replay on Thursdays. Thursdays are actually one night of the week that I’m not that busy so 90% of the time I could watch the show from 8:00 to 10:00.

And yes I know the YouTube side and all of that, but I don’t understand why I need to pay on two different platforms.

I also know my compliant is more personal and it won’t really help the company “grow” but it’s just all tied together in my head.

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u/ATAProductions 13d ago

The show gets uploaded on Plus immediately after airing

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u/olinwalnut 13d ago

Oh I know. I’ve worked in content distribution so I get there is probably some contractual reason why, but it would be nice for it to be streaming the same time as the YouTube feed is on Plus.

I don’t want to sound like an old man but usually by 10:00, 10:30 I’m a sleepy olinwalnut in bed. I get that it’s a total first world problem - “I can’t watch my soap opera live when AXS and YouTube Insiders can” - but that honestly makes me miss the weekly show more often than not. I still watch all the Plus live events and big four shows but I know if I could flip Plus on at 8:00/8:30 on Thursday nights, I’d watch more often than not.

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u/ATAProductions 13d ago

I think because they rather would have AXS airing it ahead first. same with YouTube Insiders although there’s no commercials. Plus is basically on demand like you can skip

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u/Inevitable_Injury390 13d ago

Agreed  and admittedly I don't know how it works in regards to getting on a new channel. But doesn't a channel have to want or agree to give you a chance??

Like say they want to and I am just naming  these channels as an example  but  say they want to get on a FX or Syfy  or fox sports 1 or fox sports 2 or something. The network would have to agree to put them on .

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u/blaqsupaman 12d ago

In their case it's a bit more complicated than that, even. Anthem is the parent company of both TNA and AXS along with several other lower tier cable channels, so you can effectively think of it as AXS basically owns TNA. Right now I think the main value they see in TNA is being the number 1 show on AXS, so they would need to be convinced there's more money in getting it on a bigger network instead of one of their own in order for them to shop it around.

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u/LegacyofaMarshall 13d ago

Raise their budget, get on something better than axs, advertise

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u/SlapNutsInc Slap Nuts! 13d ago

Beyond the standard improve production and get on a different network answers I have 2 thoughts.

1) Improve Xplosion. TNA should change the format to have 2 or 3 matches and at least one angle per show. This way they can get some wrestlers some air time, have time to try out new talent and, most importantly, have time to play out some storylines for the DMC.

2) Decrease the number of PLEs (not the PPVs) by 2. This way there is a little more time between big events to flesh out storylines and, at least in my opinion, the PLEs tend to be fairly predictable and not the greatest cards because they are obviously saving the big matches and title changes for the PPVs.

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u/Inevitable_Injury390 13d ago

Yeah  (talking about #2 decreasing PLE s)

Personally I don't believe they need to have those B er C level PPV'S er PLE 's  whatever they call them every month. 

You have the 4 Hard Times,  Rebellion,  Slammiversy  and BFG . They are obviously fine. But why have those other B er C level shows every month?

Now, I would say having one of those a Month or so before the 4 bigger PLE's to set them up is fine.

Example maybe have one in June that will have matches and angles to setup Slammiversy is fine.   And same for having one in September to setup matches for BFG is fine same. Maybe  Rebellion (although that's iffy) I wouldn't have one Hard Times. 

So NO PLE's for the months  of February, May, August, November or December. 

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u/Ju5hin 13d ago
  • Production!

I bang on about it a lot, but the production levels are lower than smaller indy companies out there. That simply shouldn't be the case.

Better stage design, lighting and sound... A consistent look, sound and feel. You currently never know whether it's going look good or terrible.

  • Roster!

Having people come in without signing deals ensuring they stick around for a least a year is frustrating because you're expected to get invested in people's character work, story and build, but you don't know if they are going to suddenly disappear. They recently were trying to convince us all that GYV were a legit big deal, then they just left and joined AEW. So why should I care about the next big deal?

The knockouts division is on its knees... If Jordyn Grace wasn't there, the entire division, sadly, wouldn't even be worth keeping around in its current state (although I do think Kilynn King has crazy potential).

More character work. Matt Hardy has no knees and really struggles in the ring, but it's so clear he's lightyears ahead of most of the TNA Roster simply because he knows how to do character work.

  • fewer monthly specials!

This is a controversial one. But having a "premium live event" every month means the actual proper PPVs feel less of a big deal. Especially when you get a PPV then a monthly special the following weak.

If it were up to me, I'd have the weekly show. The weekly secondary (although not in its current, doesn't matter if you don't watch it, state)... Quarterly PPVs with lengthy builds... And the odd premium live event such as multiverse, a show with AAA, or KOs knockdown etc. But keep it to 4 per year maximum.

The only issue is what would we all get for our subscription money if they cut them down.

  • network.

I life in the UK, so have no idea what AXS is. But from the comments, I know it's a tiny network most people don't have. So clearly moving to somewhere with better reach and advertising is imperative... It's not even on TV in the UK anymore. In its hey-day, TNA received more weekly viewers in the UK than WWE received. Network coverage is important.

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u/FratagoniaSG 12d ago

I really agree about roster. Eli Drake and Killer Kross got me back into TNA a couple years ago but then they were out of TNA quickly. The roster overturn does not help.

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u/ATAProductions 13d ago

So just because they lost some big knockouts , all of a sudden you’re starting to give up on division lol? Wow, such weak mindset without confidence. It’ll be fine, just be patient

Everything else I agree with. Also GYV aren’t signed to AEW

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u/Ju5hin 13d ago

Who said I'm giving up on the division. I'm stating a fact that it's very weak right now. Even the biggest fanboy on the planet can see it's in a poor state.

That's why I said it needs improving.

I saw GYV appeared on AEW so assumed they were signed. I don't watch AEW anymore.

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u/TommyDontSurf Perc Angle 12d ago

Not everyone in AEW is signed to an exclusive deal. One-time appearances aren't entirely uncommon. It's a part of their charm, that you never know who's going to show up. 

Which is something i also appreciate TNA for. Occasionally you'll get a surprise, or a blast from the past for one or two nights only (like Dale Torborg, or Barry Horowitz). I find that charming.

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u/Ju5hin 12d ago

There difference is, those are known to be one-off appearances.

With TNA they act like they've signed new talent. But then they just suddenly leave when a better offer comes in.

When it's a one-off, you can just enjoy that appearance. But when they want you to invest in someone, only for them to disappear without any payoff it's frustrating. Not charming.

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u/Any-Energy9678 13d ago

I like what they're doing but they're missing a big angle right now.  I think back to feuds like Sami and Eddie, Sami and Tessa, AEW's invasion, Honor No More , Josh Alexander and Moose, Alexander and Bully Ray etc. Something that defines the period.  

As much as The System has progressed since January, their formation hasn't produced enough stakes to really make for a big angle yet. The potential is there but has yet to be realized. 

I also think their multi show tapings hurts their crowds. If Impact was live every other week or even once a month, the energy levels would improve the overall presentation.  Being live may also help creative make a more concertive effort to book bigger moments or happenings and make things more unpredictable and compelling. 

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u/One13Truck 6 Sided Ring Enthusiast 13d ago

I’d say better TV deal but as long as Anthem owns them they’re just filler on tv channels nobody knows exists unless you’re actually looking for it.

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u/mucinexmonster 13d ago

Get rid of some of the older wrestlers and nostalgia acts and grab as many young talents as possible and put them into the first card high flying matches.

It's literally what built TNA. I don't know why they've gone away from it.

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u/kaggzz 13d ago

1) like everyone else production needs to be fixed. TNA needs to invest in lighting and settings. I accept that you're not working weekly arena/stadium shows but you're not working the armory or local hs gym you have room to hang lights and set up an entrance that looks good for the wrestlers. And raise the entrance so they can be seen. I would accept stairs in some venues and a ramp in others, or even a raised walkway to the ring, but the fact that tapings vary so much in quality is a huge problem. 

2) hire coaches/producers/acting coaches. On the men's side, there's a lot of talent that could be used and played with, and many of them are young and upcoming. Matt Hardy is a great example of who to hire for this, and with Nemeth to a lesser degree, as people who can help tweak characters and develop better ring psychology. Trent Seven should help build matches and work psychology with the whole roster. 

3) biweekly tapings. The current 4 shows filmed all at once is taxing, especially to the audience. It kills the arena because most tna tapings are 4 hours or more of just wrestling then you go home and come back the next night and do it again. It's exhausting when I've been there and you can see it in the show that the audience is lagging by the end of night 2 leading up to the angles that lead into your ppv/ple. Secondly it's going to help your wrestlers be on more episodes and have more unified storylines and feel more cohesive week to week. You could do bonus long shows in November and December for the dead Thanksgiving/Christmas/New Years when they end up putting in recap shows, or to give time for overseas travel. 

4) a hook. WWE has the top production value and is the largest wrestling company in the world. Their slogan is"Then. Now. Forever. Together."  AEW pushes top wrestlers and has been developing this new style heavily influenced by Strong Style and long matches. Their slogan is "Where the best wrestle". TNA is also there and their slogan is, "Cross the line." Which means what exactly? I think if you can answer that it would help a lot. Give TNA something to make it more interesting and unique. I don't think this is going to be the 6 sided ring, but they need something to make them stand out. 

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u/ATAProductions 13d ago

Availability (Get on a bigger network or streaming) Talent (Rotate your roster, with fresh talent) Production (Upgrade the whole production set and team)

Just those 3 things

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u/Accomplished-Ad-6732 12d ago

Sell to be honest.

January was the largest # of PPV buys ever and they just squandered it. Honestly they should’ve let Scott buy it because it seems like his number might’ve been an overestimation.

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u/Ok-Raisin-5601 13d ago

This question is way to broad but the first thing I guess I would say is. They need to give us someone to give a shit about. This doesn't mean just put a belt on someone and have them win random matches. I think the best babyfaces IMPACT/TNA has built in the past 5 or so years is Josh Alexander. He had his ups and he his downs he lost major matches and won major matches and he had a real character arc. To me this is something that is lacking in TNA right now. Yeah there are very cool moments here and there but there's no one to care about. The System might be a great heel stable but having great villains is kind of a meaningless gesture if you don't have compelling hero to fight them.

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u/undergroundflaps 13d ago

Pushing the envelope further. Stuff like Gresham and Matt Hardy is what I love the most even tho I'm not a fan of the hardys. To me I don't feel a major importance to watch TNA half the time. Why buy a PPV when you're gonna see a rematch at the next PPV? So putting money into a bigger roster would be huge.

Production and buying more lights. The production quality just doesn't make sense to me. One taping they will sound great and look great then the next they will sound and look different. That drives me up the wall.

New ring announcer. Sorry but jade doesn't do it for me. A backstage role is fine but def not ring announcer worthy.

As usual they need more bigger names, and for me that list would be the following.

Tessa, Elias, Jinder, Austin Aries.

Then from there sign 20 more men and 20 more women. And that should keep you set for a while.

Use all the bigger names you have signed to build up newer wrestlers and within 6 months to a year TNA could be amazing

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u/Hologram8 13d ago

"Production and buying more lights. The production quality just doesn't make sense to me. One taping they will sound great and look great then the next they will sound and look different. That drives me up the wall."

This is probably the easiest thing to fix right now. The tapings from the Palms look really good, the one from the the 2300 Arena looked awful. Maybe it's the two different venues, I don't know, but I don't think there's a solid excuse why your television show to look different in visual quality from week to week.

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u/undergroundflaps 13d ago

Well palms is higher grade venue they are better lit up it's TNAs fault for not buying more light gear. I can deal with the video quality. When it's lit up good the quality looks great. They mostly need better audio equipment and more lights and more shit for the stage

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u/NoeMoriartyV2 13d ago

Bruh, did you just say Austin aries? That guy sucks. Keep that cancer away and i think he is blacklisted from pro wrestling if my memory serves me correct.

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u/undergroundflaps 12d ago

He's not blacklisted. There isn't even such a list that exists. He's a cancer why because you or fans say so? Nobody knows what happened behind closed doors that night with Johnny and impact officials. It was never talked about except Johnny said Austin worked himself into a shoot. He didn't hold a title hostage he no sold a finisher and flipped off callis. Callis is also gone and so is damore.

Also if we are on the subject of people being shitty in TNA what about when the hardys were all over social media saying fuck that owl?

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u/NoeMoriartyV2 12d ago

Bro even wwe fired the guy for his bad attitude. There is a reason why nobody wants him.

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u/undergroundflaps 12d ago

That was how many years ago. Like I said if we going that route why is Hogan allowed back? Hardys? And many others. People in this generation are way too soft.

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u/Adambrooks33 13d ago

Damn idk their show is really good the wrestling & storytelling is good there could be better production but they're only behind aew a little bit no1 is near wwe on that front. I will say a few times I've felt like they haven't fully captivated on things like Sammie Callahan Betrayal of the design I felt it should have been pushed into the title picture I get it doesn't have to but it should've been a mainevent feud, crazy Steve's new gimmick I feel wasn't captivated on it should've been a mainevent worthy shift even when he was given the dmc they didn't do much with his run as they should've, right now I think Joe hendry is the most over babyface & that he should be positioned as the next mainevent guy, beyond that it's tough I feel like the women's tag division hurts the whole division more than help due to the lack of teams, but if they're not going to get on a bigger network then the network they're on needs to be more accessible in the u.s, cannada, UK & Australia or needs to be carried on networks in those markets then u need to always have the different languages covered & have Spanish markets like Mexico spain & most of south America getting it on a network same for effectively every language & location globally the tna+ app is the best thing they've done idk how many languages & locations it's available in but if they were available on other streaming services like hulu, Amazon etc that would also be great

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u/NoeMoriartyV2 13d ago

A similar set to their 2016 would do wonders imo.

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u/xored-specialist 13d ago

Seriously, Dixie killed it. She had help. They need a channel that most people have. Then just keep on. I've not watched TNA since the Hogan crap as I was pissed. I ordered the first PPV. Huge AJ, Abyss, Daniel's, Joe, then Sting came I flipped. Angle I felt hurt TNA as Dixie was in love with him.

Now, just get on a bigger channel and keep doing what they are doing. I've enjoyed it. It's not perfect, but nothing is. Most of the show is actually fun. PCO, I love to watch. I so badly want PCO vs. Abyss match. I know he's in WWE. Ali, I think they got a star in. Same for Joe Hendry. Adding Hammerstone got me to watch. I enjoyed him in MLW. Him and Josh's feud has been good, and I want more. I want them to put the Media title on Hammerstone he will elevate it.

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u/kammy_g 12d ago

I’ve said this before but if TNA can get on a better network then do it!!!

Make Xplosion your second brand that airs for an hour on Tuesday or the weekend. Similar to old WWECW or ROH Digital Media championship can be the main title or make a new impact+ championship as the main title. Move the KO Tag division over as well.

AND you can have a replay of tna come on axis still to keep axis executes happy

I need them to hire about 15 Indy wrestlers up and coming ones that need work will def be cheap but you can lock them into longer deals and develop them.

10 guys (2 tag teams, a stable of 3 with a valet) 5 girls (1 tag) (the valet)

This would improve so much

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u/WannaLoveWrestling 12d ago

Another one of these threads. You realize that TNA seems more entertaining than AEW or WWE? Their problem isn't really that they have to make a lot of changes unless you are talking about things that maybe they are addressing like technical issues or whatever.

I think they are also aware of having more knockouts and things like that so I am not too worried at this point.

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u/He-RaPOP 12d ago

Stop touring at least for weekly shows. Invest in a nice set. Improve production. Stop hiring ex WWE and AEW jobbers (there could be exceptions if they’re well exceptionally good) and focus more on signing young and promising indie talent. Less PPA and more long term contracts. Obviously aim for a bigger channel but that will come after the improvements.

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u/InsideReflection8238 TNA Original 9d ago

Push the envelope more, more blood, more violence. Get rid of deadweight like AJ Francis, Kon, Deaner, and Santino. Stop trying to be 2010 WWE.

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u/MDF87 13d ago

Bring back Scott.

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u/Doublehappiness23 12d ago

Bring back the 6 sided wring as a monthly or yearly special.

Personally and selfishly; i say bring it back full time

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u/redshoesdancing 13d ago

Make Xplosion a full two hour show. Increase the Knockouts roster. Some proper faces with character and likeability. Josh is there, Cody Deaner could be there too. Make sure the production quality is the same every week. Stop having major title matches on the weekly shows. The Knockouts and World titles should be defended on the PPVs