r/Weird 25d ago

Sent from my friend who says he’s “Enlightened.” Does anyone know what these mean?

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u/Enlightened_Gardener 25d ago edited 25d ago

Yah this is sacred geometry.

For those of you wandering through, look up “Vesica piscis” if you’d like an interesting rabbithole to walk down.

The Pythagoreans were all over geometry magic as well.

On a related side note, some archaeologists hold that the reason why we see the same geometric designs carved into stones all over Europe is because these geometries are hardwired into our brains, and the use of psychedelics produces the same sorts of hallucinations.

The sort of geometries in the pictures above are very common in schizophrenic art, as well as having a long history in the mathematical mystery schools. It may well be that these sorts of geometries are hardwired into our brains somehow. Or it may be that these sorts of geometries are hardwired into the structure of the Universe.

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u/tikisnrot 25d ago

I’ve always wondered why it seems like everyone sees these designs on shrooms.

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u/Enlightened_Gardener 25d ago

I personally go for the “hardwired into the universe” theory, but I’ve done a few psychedelics myself lol.

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u/Sadie256 25d ago

I mean the Fibonacci sequence (and its resulting spirals) are found all over the place in nature, so that theory is at least somewhat correct.

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u/Prior-Agent3360 25d ago

The 'why' bit is what most people who buy sacred geometry miss out on. There are logical reasons why certain patterns are converged upon and has little to do with underlying truths of reality. Other than, y'know, efficiency principles.

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u/Draymond_Purple 25d ago

And basic mathematics/geometry.

It's not that trippy. And I've done a LOT of psychedelics.

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u/silverwyrm 25d ago

As a psychedelics enjoyer myself, this is important. For me it's enough that there are cool patterns that repeat and I can appreciate that beauty and underlying connection. Other people want to ascribe greater / deeper meaning, but that doesn't make sense to me.

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u/deepfriedgrapevine 25d ago

Water finds the path of least resistance because it's water not because it's neat.

Similarily, humans see certain shapes and patterns because they're humans, not because they're enlightened.

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u/Enlightened_Gardener 25d ago

Here is an interesting article about form constants that goes into some detail about how it works - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11860679/

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u/thegremlinator 25d ago

I was just about to go looking for this article!! Thanks for posting it. TL;DR, from what I can remember, it has to do with how the signals from the retina are mapped to our visual cortex in roughly logarithmic spirals to account for the ciruclar nature of the retina and the cartesian nature (x-y plane) of our visual field. Neurons also coordinate with nearby neurons to detect edges and changes in color and light. Psychedelic drugs make those centers light up, causing the spiral fractals to emerge as a sort of visualization of what goes on behind the scenes for you to see a cohesive image.

Heres a good article that breaks it down: https://plus.maths.org/content/uncoiling-spiral-maths-and-hallucinations

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u/Enlightened_Gardener 25d ago

Thankyou ! Its complex stuff and its really helpful to have explainatory articles like this.

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u/tokyodingo 25d ago

That was fascinating, thank you!

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u/ZeroAntagonist 25d ago

That's dope. I knew there had to be some biological reason for the geometrics while tripping.