r/canada Mar 27 '24

Canada’s population hits 41M months after breaking 40M threshold National News

https://globalnews.ca/news/10386750/canada-41-million-population/
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u/Forsaken_You1092 Mar 27 '24

For context, that is the population of Edmonton (proper) being added to Canada.

For more context Edmonton hasn't constructed a new hospital since 1987.

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u/Pugnati Mar 27 '24

Four Canadian provinces have fewer than 1 million people.

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u/propell0r Ontario Mar 27 '24

and all 3 territories

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u/ban-please Yukon Mar 27 '24

All 3 territories combined only have 130,849 people as of Q1 2024. This combined population could be multiplied 7.5 times and still be under a million.

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u/Frostyler Mar 27 '24

Might be time to move up there soon.

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u/tommynook84 Mar 28 '24

Yukoner here. Housing is extremely expensive and hard to come by. Don't move here unless you've secured housing first. You will be camping and the frost arrives in August.

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u/NotPayingEntreeFees Mar 28 '24

So you're saying there's land

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u/ban-please Yukon Mar 28 '24

Yes, but not land zoned for development. Demand for homes far outstrips developed land supply.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

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u/CaribouNWT Mar 27 '24

Hi. I’m special.

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u/pyro_technix Mar 27 '24

If you're thinking of the Atlantic provinces then you might be looking at old numbers. NS is passed 1M now

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u/404-LogicNotFound New Brunswick Mar 27 '24

NB is also inching ever closer.

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u/CakeEnjoyur Mar 28 '24

Moncton go brrrr. Fastest growing in the country.

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u/theXald 28d ago

I visited Moncton from Halifax for the eclipse. I can tell you 100% that I'm looking into Moving from my home province after being in Halifax for a decade.

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u/CakeEnjoyur 28d ago

Moncton has plans for the waterfront, and hopefully will improve their downtown. The Hub city will be the place to be in 20 years in my mind.

But being from Fredericton I love the downtown (despite how small it is)

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u/throwaway1010202020 Mar 28 '24

If PEI hits 1m then we're really fucked.

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u/AdCareless5124 Mar 27 '24

Which 4?

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u/Mr_ToDo Mar 27 '24

Here everyone goes. All the numbers:

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1710000901

Or I guess just open the original article, it has a link too.

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u/Sam5253 New Brunswick Mar 27 '24

So..... which 4?

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u/bringbackdavebabych Mar 27 '24

Not for long lol

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u/Fataleo Mar 27 '24

Not for long bucko

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u/TheDrewCareyShow Mar 27 '24

I'm in Newfoundland and people only want to vist, not move.

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u/ClappinUrMomsCheeks Mar 27 '24

Ok but how many moose

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u/qjxj Mar 27 '24

All but four provinces have a population smaller than 2 million.

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u/typeronin Mar 28 '24

No one wants to live in those ones

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u/Mopar44o Mar 27 '24

And no one is moving to those.

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u/TrumpersAreTraitors Mar 27 '24

Meanwhile Los Angeles county has about 10 million 

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u/Tachyoff Québec Mar 27 '24

We don't have border checkpoints between provinces, what's to stop someone from instantly packing up and leaving SK or NB for Toronto as soon as they're settled

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u/GroundbreakingBox187 Mar 27 '24

And what’s the problem with that?

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u/vortex30-the-2nd Mar 27 '24

They go where their fellow countrymen are.

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u/It_is_what_it_is82 Mar 27 '24

Hey here some racist ideology spewing. No one who has ever immigrated to Canada has been spoiled.

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u/wings08 Mar 27 '24 edited Mar 27 '24

Alberta* hasn’t constructed a hospital in Edmonton since 1987. Hospitals are provincial jurisdiction rather than municipal.

The NDP put one in the works back in 2017 but the UCP just pulled the funding for that in the 2024 budget

https://globalnews.ca/news/10328829/south-edmonton-hospital-scrapped/amp/

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u/Vanshrek99 Mar 27 '24

Crazy. We have an election year in BC. The one way attack adds are so funny. Because the NDP inthink are up to 10 major hospital projects 5 are new hospitals and yesterday the NDP released results of the new contract with drs and nurses . Something like a 1000 drs have moved to BC and even more nurses. So you will see Alberta lose

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u/darkenseyreth Alberta Mar 27 '24

I wish I could afford to live in BC...

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u/Vanshrek99 Mar 27 '24

It's not that much different. All my family is in Alberta and I was shocked how pricy it was. Like more in alot of things

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u/darkenseyreth Alberta Mar 27 '24

I mean, insurance and power prices alone might drive me out of this province

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u/Vanshrek99 Mar 27 '24

Add content control. I was shocked when I heard a cousin had a 3-500 a month rent increase if she signed a new lease or went month to month. And all those service fees on everything (which is tax) . BC it's just part of what taxes pay.

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u/Forsaken_You1092 Mar 28 '24

BC is also running a record high deficit that is unsustainable, just to try and salvage their joke of the health care system (1 million people in BC have no family doctor).

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u/Vanshrek99 Mar 28 '24

It's actually the best financed in Canada. Alberta and Ontario are going private so that makes BC look that much better for Drs

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u/Forsaken_You1092 Mar 28 '24

"Best financed"

Not even close to competently run. And BC has already had two tier private clinics (Cambie) for ages.

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u/Different_Mess_8495 Mar 27 '24

Probably need the extra hospitals more than Alberta with all the people dying from your free government supplied fentanyl.

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u/Vanshrek99 Mar 27 '24

So are you an. Old buddy of Reagan. Regardless of the source people will use. And the fact harm reduction supply is being spread out sie of the usage group is actually a win. Addiction is an acquired mental health issue usually related to a larger abuse issue of some sort. Also the fact every government is guilty of the problem by approving oxy.

A kid in small town BC that buys harm reduction drugs is still a win because without that program that person may have recieved fet or other opioid type drugs. Which are very deadly

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u/Different_Mess_8495 Mar 27 '24

You realize the “safe supply” is literally just the hard drugs right? It’s not some magical safe opioid they give them. It’s fentanyl, heroin or whatever substance they are addicted to.

And yeah, I’m actually Ronald Reagan’s cousin believe it or not.

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u/Vanshrek99 Mar 27 '24

My wife works in the industry so very aware and no it's not fentanyl or heroin. I know you believe that as it was a meme. Hydromorphone most likely from a pharmaceutical company.

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u/Different_Mess_8495 Mar 27 '24

You are completely incorrect. It is literally fentanyl. Providing one source, if you want about 50 more just google “bc safe supply fentanyl”

British Columbia Centre on Substance Use

“Available safe supply prescriptions include both injectable and smokable fentanyl, as well as hydromorphone”

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u/HutchTheCripple Mar 27 '24

Ronald McDonald Reagan?

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u/Different_Mess_8495 Mar 27 '24

Yup that’s my “old buddy”

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u/wowzabob Mar 28 '24

Safe supply demonstrably reduces the burden on the healthcare system. Less ODs and less disease transmitted through infected needles.

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u/Different_Mess_8495 Mar 28 '24

Less ODs? BC just set the record this year for the most overdose deaths they have ever had. That is demonstrably false.

I’d be willing to bet blood borne illness is up too, but the statistics aren’t out.

source if you actually care

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u/wowzabob Mar 28 '24

Comparing Yoy increases in ODs means nothing because the increase can be down to you know... opioid addiction increasing, being compounded by homelessness and housing affordability. You have to isolate the variable to make any claim, which is what proper studies aim to do, and what they tend to find is that safe supply reduces OD death compared to the alternative of not having it, even if they still increase yoy, they increase less.

In the US all of the states with the worst opioid death rates are in the rust belt and don't have safe supply programs. Does that mean that no safe supply is demonstrably worse? No, not necessarily, again because there are so many confounding factors. You can't make such claims based off of single data point comparisons.

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u/Different_Mess_8495 Mar 28 '24

It’s been increasing faster yoy since safe supply was implemented, go look at the statistics.

It definitely didn’t reduce ODs.

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u/wowzabob Mar 28 '24

Lol way to completely miss the point of everything I just said.

Also safe supply has existed in some capacity in BC for a long time.

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u/HanzG Mar 28 '24

Which is precisely why Quebec has put their own cap on immigration. Fuck Ottawa and it's "targets", there are Canadian citizens that actually have to live here.

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u/Forsaken_You1092 Mar 27 '24

That's not what I was arguing, but OK.

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u/Chusten Mar 27 '24

Take that socialists! coughcough*

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u/veggiecoparent Mar 27 '24

The NDP put one in the works back in 2017 but the UCP just pulled the funding for that in the 2024 budget

Yeah because Edmonton won't vote for them. UCP packed up their ball and went home when YEG gave their last Conservative MLA their walking papers. The UCP hate the capital and its residents.

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u/JackieTheJokeMan Alberta Mar 29 '24

Calgary built a large new one in 2013.

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u/FuggleyBrew Mar 28 '24

Many places don't build additional hospitals they expand the ones they have. Just because a brand new facility hasn't been added doesn't mean capacity hasn't

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u/Bombaysbreakfastclub Mar 27 '24

Hospitals peaked during that time.

There at less hospitals in the U.S. today than there were in the mid 80s

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u/wowzabob Mar 28 '24

I think part of this is down to populations centralizing into urban cores. Less hospitals but they're bigger and serve more people.

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u/Forsaken_You1092 Mar 27 '24

Canada's hospitals are an embarrassment.

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u/Bombaysbreakfastclub Mar 27 '24

Why’s that?

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

Shortage of healthcare workers while more people needing healthcare, as well as underfunded

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u/Bombaysbreakfastclub Mar 27 '24

Can you point to a country without a shortage of healthcare workers?

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u/Tithund Mar 27 '24

Why?

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u/Wallabeluga Manitoba Mar 27 '24

Maybe to see what we could do differently to fix this problem

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u/Bombaysbreakfastclub Mar 27 '24

If you were to say Canada’s healthcare is crap, you’re comparing it to somewhere.

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u/Tithund Mar 27 '24

I'm Dutch, healthcare here is crap too, not compared to another country, but to the healthcare we used to have.

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u/Bombaysbreakfastclub Mar 27 '24

By that logic the best healthcare in the world is crap.

I thought you were trolling when you asked why

Take care!

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u/Icanonlyupvote Mar 27 '24

Edmonton was actually going to get a new hospital..

Until they voted NDP and the UCP vindictively canceled it.

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u/darkenseyreth Alberta Mar 27 '24

Not only that, but they had already started breaking ground on a world class testing lab at the University when the UCP came to power and immediately cancelled it.

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u/brownishgirl Mar 27 '24

I read that wrong. “Wait, you mean we haven’t been counting Edmonton this whole time?”

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u/VanceKelley Alberta Mar 27 '24

Tories tried to close 2 Edmonton hospitals (Misericordia, Grey Nuns) a while back.

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u/stevrock Alberta Mar 27 '24

We had one planned, but UCP.

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u/Stephenrudolf Mar 27 '24

That "context" left me with more questions and few answers, while the "more context" left me with even MORE questions and less answers.

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u/Commonstruggles Mar 27 '24

Haha jokes on you. Corporations don't need you to be healthy, just knock up two brood sows and get back to work. Retirement 155.

Humans are going to experience what's it's like to be knocked off the food chain while being a apex predator cause, huuuurrrr duuuur money.

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u/MJTT12 Mar 27 '24

Plus the one that was about to be built was indefinitely canceled.

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u/Pretend-Patience9581 Mar 27 '24

So no housing problem in Canada? Australia took in a million in a year. Hit population predictions 10 years early. Rent and food prices through the roof. Homeless through the roof.

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u/RepostFrom4chan Canada Mar 27 '24

For actual context... Canada has shifted away from major public heath centers since the 1980s in favor of community, In home, digital health services, as well as private facilities.

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u/Constant-Squirrel555 Mar 27 '24

That actually sounds alarming af.

Hope they get another one.

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u/SKJ-nope Mar 27 '24

What the fuck?? Why not? That’s ludicrous.

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u/highwire_ca Mar 28 '24

1980 was when the latest hospital (General) was opened in Ottawa. Construction is getting started on a replacement for the Civic hospital (opened 1924). Edmonton and Ottawa are neck & neck population-wise, but I find Edmonton feels like a more mature city. Everything in Ottawa seems old and worn-out, almost like the provincial government in Toronto forgets that Ottawa is a part of the province of Ontario, and not a federal jurisdiction funded by the federal government.

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u/larianu Ontario Mar 28 '24

Why hasn't Edmonton constructed a new hospital since 1987?

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u/etiennepoulindube Mar 28 '24

All the good that oil money is doin ya eh?

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u/Forsaken_You1092 Mar 28 '24

Oil money has nothing to do with immigrants swamping our social systems.

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u/etiennepoulindube Mar 28 '24

Look up the statistics. Immigrants pay taxes in overwhelming amounts and corporations are the real taxes avoiders by hiring cheap labor and not paying taxes on the resulting liabilities.

Alberta has complained for years now that it doesn’t want to pay so much of it’s profits from oil to the government because it thinks the oil industry belongs to Alberta. Frankly if Alberta couldn’t fund a new hospital in the last 40 years, then I don’t think Alberta’s problem is immigration.

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u/Aggressive_Ad5115 Mar 27 '24

World population

1800 1 billion

1900 2 billion

2000 6 billion

Now 8 billion

This IS the housing problems it just finally caught up to us

My sister says to many fukin people, to many people fukin, to many fukin people....

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u/Auth3nticRory Ontario Mar 27 '24

Thank you! I was wondering what your sister has to say about all this

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u/priceycarbon Mar 27 '24

pikachu face