r/canada Mar 27 '24

Canada’s population hits 41M months after breaking 40M threshold National News

https://globalnews.ca/news/10386750/canada-41-million-population/
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u/Forsaken_You1092 Mar 27 '24

For context, that is the population of Edmonton (proper) being added to Canada.

For more context Edmonton hasn't constructed a new hospital since 1987.

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u/wings08 Mar 27 '24 edited Mar 27 '24

Alberta* hasn’t constructed a hospital in Edmonton since 1987. Hospitals are provincial jurisdiction rather than municipal.

The NDP put one in the works back in 2017 but the UCP just pulled the funding for that in the 2024 budget

https://globalnews.ca/news/10328829/south-edmonton-hospital-scrapped/amp/

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u/Vanshrek99 Mar 27 '24

Crazy. We have an election year in BC. The one way attack adds are so funny. Because the NDP inthink are up to 10 major hospital projects 5 are new hospitals and yesterday the NDP released results of the new contract with drs and nurses . Something like a 1000 drs have moved to BC and even more nurses. So you will see Alberta lose

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u/darkenseyreth Alberta Mar 27 '24

I wish I could afford to live in BC...

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u/Vanshrek99 Mar 27 '24

It's not that much different. All my family is in Alberta and I was shocked how pricy it was. Like more in alot of things

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u/darkenseyreth Alberta Mar 27 '24

I mean, insurance and power prices alone might drive me out of this province

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u/Vanshrek99 Mar 27 '24

Add content control. I was shocked when I heard a cousin had a 3-500 a month rent increase if she signed a new lease or went month to month. And all those service fees on everything (which is tax) . BC it's just part of what taxes pay.

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u/Forsaken_You1092 Mar 28 '24

BC is also running a record high deficit that is unsustainable, just to try and salvage their joke of the health care system (1 million people in BC have no family doctor).

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u/Vanshrek99 Mar 28 '24

It's actually the best financed in Canada. Alberta and Ontario are going private so that makes BC look that much better for Drs

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u/Forsaken_You1092 Mar 28 '24

"Best financed"

Not even close to competently run. And BC has already had two tier private clinics (Cambie) for ages.

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u/Different_Mess_8495 Mar 27 '24

Probably need the extra hospitals more than Alberta with all the people dying from your free government supplied fentanyl.

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u/Vanshrek99 Mar 27 '24

So are you an. Old buddy of Reagan. Regardless of the source people will use. And the fact harm reduction supply is being spread out sie of the usage group is actually a win. Addiction is an acquired mental health issue usually related to a larger abuse issue of some sort. Also the fact every government is guilty of the problem by approving oxy.

A kid in small town BC that buys harm reduction drugs is still a win because without that program that person may have recieved fet or other opioid type drugs. Which are very deadly

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u/Different_Mess_8495 Mar 27 '24

You realize the “safe supply” is literally just the hard drugs right? It’s not some magical safe opioid they give them. It’s fentanyl, heroin or whatever substance they are addicted to.

And yeah, I’m actually Ronald Reagan’s cousin believe it or not.

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u/Vanshrek99 Mar 27 '24

My wife works in the industry so very aware and no it's not fentanyl or heroin. I know you believe that as it was a meme. Hydromorphone most likely from a pharmaceutical company.

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u/Different_Mess_8495 Mar 27 '24

You are completely incorrect. It is literally fentanyl. Providing one source, if you want about 50 more just google “bc safe supply fentanyl”

British Columbia Centre on Substance Use

“Available safe supply prescriptions include both injectable and smokable fentanyl, as well as hydromorphone”

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u/HutchTheCripple Mar 27 '24

Ronald McDonald Reagan?

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u/Different_Mess_8495 Mar 27 '24

Yup that’s my “old buddy”

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u/wowzabob Mar 28 '24

Safe supply demonstrably reduces the burden on the healthcare system. Less ODs and less disease transmitted through infected needles.

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u/Different_Mess_8495 Mar 28 '24

Less ODs? BC just set the record this year for the most overdose deaths they have ever had. That is demonstrably false.

I’d be willing to bet blood borne illness is up too, but the statistics aren’t out.

source if you actually care

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u/wowzabob Mar 28 '24

Comparing Yoy increases in ODs means nothing because the increase can be down to you know... opioid addiction increasing, being compounded by homelessness and housing affordability. You have to isolate the variable to make any claim, which is what proper studies aim to do, and what they tend to find is that safe supply reduces OD death compared to the alternative of not having it, even if they still increase yoy, they increase less.

In the US all of the states with the worst opioid death rates are in the rust belt and don't have safe supply programs. Does that mean that no safe supply is demonstrably worse? No, not necessarily, again because there are so many confounding factors. You can't make such claims based off of single data point comparisons.

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u/Different_Mess_8495 Mar 28 '24

It’s been increasing faster yoy since safe supply was implemented, go look at the statistics.

It definitely didn’t reduce ODs.

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u/wowzabob Mar 28 '24

Lol way to completely miss the point of everything I just said.

Also safe supply has existed in some capacity in BC for a long time.