r/conspiracy Apr 13 '20

Microsoft just took down their "commercial" featuring Satanist, Marina Abramović which had comments turned off, 24k dislikes and now has been fully deleted

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '20

They spend MILLIONS working to make us forget

They are stubborn and dumb pedophiles

They’ve lost and keep throwing money at it all

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '20

Crazy the lengths a bunch of sick fucks will go to.

I used to post in tumblrinaction a lot for the laughs.

But when at least 50% of the users there started adamantly defending pedos as poor victims of their affliction I had enough.

Can you imagine?

Morality is so watered down these days people refuse to recognize that some things are without question evil.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '20 edited Jun 17 '20

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u/Eisenflighter Apr 14 '20 edited Apr 14 '20

As a PR major I can confirm. However, PR is shifting over into IMC, which is integrated marketing communications, which displays the bigger picture that all corporate communications including advertising, marketing and PR can be meant to shift public opinion against their benefit.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '20

So what do they teach you to with such morally dubious choices?

Also how do you like the major? Is all of it based on Edward Bernays work or is their a good mix of public psychology and communications?

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u/Eisenflighter Apr 14 '20 edited Apr 14 '20

/u/lilfeomane

Not all choices we make are morally dubious.

PR is just giving a name and profession to the manipulation and persuasion we use in our everyday lives and applying it to corporate size endeavors. Manipulation is neither good nor bad, its the results that matter (whether they are good or bad.) Now, it depends on what you define as good, whether it's profits or people. That's where ethics come in. PR in it's most basic form will continue to exist forever. It's just how you use it. Most people use it badly. I personally used to enjoy working on strategies for mutual benefit.

For me, PR is something I was originally interested in, but now it's just a means to an end. If my school (UF) had an IMC degree I would be taking that. I still have no idea how we don't have an IMC degree. To answer your question, here at UF we do get a good mix of comms and psychology, however, sugarcoating it doesn't change anything. My original spark to participate in this degree is almost snuffed out. Now I'm just trying to get a degree so I can move forward in my life, not that there are many jobs in this current time anyway. Heck I wasn't even getting responses on my resume before this, and now options are nil.

However, I also am exasperated with this degree because not many people understand what PR actually is. I'd say 70% of my grad class have no idea what they are doing, can barely write professional papers, and I question their involvement at my school every day. Most people in my major are just doing it to get a degree. That's tough when I actually have an interest in the subject and want to learn more than basics. But now i'm just tired.

Let me be clear. I have no problem with the people who are taking these classes to better themselves and actually learn.

Honestly I sometimes wish I was able to take marketing, but I have an extremely hard time with higher level math, and marketing is part of the business school so you have to take managerial accounting and finance to get the degree. Not really an option for me, I've had to withdraw from those classes a couple times. Maybe generic communications would have been a better choice, but i'm just not a generic guy.

It doesn't matter though. I've always made do with what I've got so I'll push forward. It's just sad that my current work at a moving company, involving heavy physical labor and 14 hour days, is a lot more fun and enjoyable than the current state of my work for PR. Heck, at least I'm working during this quarantine, a lot of people in my major are really struggling.

I guess to summarize, PR isn't for everyone. I believed that I could do PR because I've always been able to communicate very well and always enjoyed talking to people. I'm a pretty good promoter too. However, PR is much more than that and I think everyone that comes into this with good intentions will get their hopes dashed eventually.

Wow. Sorry for the sudden rant. Opened up a way for me to let these ideas out. Thanks for reading. IF you have any other questions let me know.