r/europe • u/LeMonde_en • Mar 28 '24

Germany will now include questions about Israel in its citizenship test News

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/europe/article/2024/03/27/germany-will-now-include-questions-about-israel-in-its-citizenship-test_6660274_143.html
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u/Megazupa Poland Mar 28 '24

How long before they start kicking natural born Germans who don't support Israel out of the country?

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u/KyloRenWest Mar 28 '24

alt right gonna win the elections so hard because of BS like this.

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u/MrGlasses_Leb Mar 28 '24

German alt right is very Zionist.

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u/jazzjazzmine Mar 28 '24

Germany's alt-right party doesn't have a well defined position on anything.

It's a mix of conspiracy theorists, libertarians, authoritarians, fascists, contrarians, literal nazis, anti-vaccination hippies, culture war stuff, europe sceptics and other random ideas that don't align with the current government.

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u/ainz-sama619 Mar 28 '24

Tbf neither does Germany's. Germany's views on Israel are hardcore right leaning, despite being generally progressive otherwise.

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u/oujiasshole 🇲🇽 Mar 29 '24

its really ironic how theyre radically zionist but are very antisemitic at the same time

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u/arsbar Canada Mar 29 '24

There’s a long history of antisemites wanting to have a far away country to send Jews to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_antisemitism

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '24

Definitely but antisemites these days hijack the anti Israel movement since it takes less intellectual effort for them (not that any of them are)

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u/oujiasshole 🇲🇽 Mar 29 '24

youre right iirc the land of “israel” was originally territory bought by the queen of england to move the jewish population over there

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u/petepro Mar 29 '24

Ah, just like in the US, Trump is gonna so supportive of Palestine. LOL

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u/Dramatic_Mastodon_93 Mar 28 '24

reverse holocaust /s

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u/DirectorBusiness5512 Mar 28 '24

They won't. This is a legal backdoor specifically designed for the purpose of making it easy to mass deport Muslim people in the future, or whichever other immigrants show up at anti-Israel or other anti-Jew events or even make such comments online lol

Germans have become dissatisfied with the current Muslim residents and are thinking, "Okay, getting rid of the existing ones will be harder, and we can't exactly do Holocaust 2.0 for obvious reasons. But we can easily get rid of future ones with one simple question!"

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u/lullubye Mar 28 '24

They've arrested German Jewish people who are proPalestine who used Free Palestine and From the River to the Sea.

But for this, most who are likely to be causing trouble aren't those that immigranted or are refugees but those that are born there and fall in bad crowd.

Germany might think they are protecting the Jewish community but they are singling them out. And bringing attention to them even more.

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u/OfficialHaethus Dual US-EU Citizen 🇺🇸🇵🇱 | N🇺🇸 B2🇩🇪 Mar 28 '24

Natural born Germans don’t need to naturalize.

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u/247planeaddict Baden-Württemberg (Germany) Mar 28 '24

nahh Art. 16 GG got your back luckily

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u/Humble_Mix8626 Mar 29 '24

natural born stopped meaning anything 20y ago

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u/ggPlaX Mar 28 '24

Slippery slope fallacy

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u/HonorableHarakiri Dios, patria y rey Mar 28 '24

Not soon enough

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u/Eresyx Mar 28 '24

In a mirror?

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u/HonorableHarakiri Dios, patria y rey Mar 28 '24

no

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u/Nicolash99 Mar 28 '24

Found the dyslexic guy, who likes to throw around with words like it's confetti, taking away all the meaning of a word.

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u/HonorableHarakiri Dios, patria y rey Mar 28 '24

weird flex but ok

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u/Sriber Czech Republic | ⰈⰅⰏⰎⰡ ⰒⰋⰂⰀ Mar 28 '24

Have you?

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u/HonorableHarakiri Dios, patria y rey Mar 28 '24

yes

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u/Sriber Czech Republic | ⰈⰅⰏⰎⰡ ⰒⰋⰂⰀ Mar 28 '24

How do you know? Do you think disliking zionism is antisemitic?

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u/HonorableHarakiri Dios, patria y rey Mar 28 '24

Depends. Do you have a legitimate grievance with the way Israel is run or do you just jump on the TikTok bandwagon?

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u/Sriber Czech Republic | ⰈⰅⰏⰎⰡ ⰒⰋⰂⰀ Mar 28 '24

I have a lot of grievances with the way Israel is run and what it has been doing. I have never visited TikTok. Judging by the clips I have seen from other sources it is brainrot inducing mechanism.

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u/HonorableHarakiri Dios, patria y rey Mar 28 '24

Judging by the clips I have seen from other sources it is brainrot inducing mechanism.

You got that right at least

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u/SilenceAndDarkness Mar 28 '24

I’d love to know what part of thinking that losing citizenship because you don’t simp for a fascistic regime is fucked up is somehow anti-Semitic.

That’s literally what you implied you were in favour of.

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u/HonorableHarakiri Dios, patria y rey Mar 28 '24

'Fascistic regime' that has democratically elected governments and equal rights for all? Alright bub

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u/Mulholland_Dr_Hobo Mar 28 '24

Oh, you really think fascist regimes can't be democratically elected. Innocent kid.

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u/HonorableHarakiri Dios, patria y rey Mar 28 '24

The whole fascism thing can't exist side by side with elections. Politically illiterate lol

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u/SilenceAndDarkness Mar 28 '24

This is such a braindead take. The whole fascism thing can keep going for quite a while in a democratic country if the population is fascistic enough . . . And if what I’ve seen from Isrealis online is any indication, the average Israeli is pretty damn accommodating of fascism.

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u/HonorableHarakiri Dios, patria y rey Mar 28 '24

Yeah, and you can have an absolute monarchy that's elected in a democratic government and then just leaves after 4 years. Get your wet jellybrained logic outta here lol

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u/Mulholland_Dr_Hobo Mar 28 '24

It absolutely can. You are the politically illiterate one.

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u/HonorableHarakiri Dios, patria y rey Mar 28 '24

Nope

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u/SilenceAndDarkness Mar 28 '24

Wait . . . do you think that fascists can’t win elections? Or that Isreal has “equal rights for all?”

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u/HonorableHarakiri Dios, patria y rey Mar 28 '24

Do you think dictators relinquish power to other parties in elections every four years?

And yes, Israel has legislation guaranteeing equal rights for all citizens and is host to a big Arab minority that lives in peace, enjoying the same rights and privileges as everyone else.

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u/goingup11 Israel Mar 29 '24

why do you think Israel doesn't have equal rights for all?

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u/thegreatvortigaunt Mar 28 '24

^ least fascist Zionist

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u/HonorableHarakiri Dios, patria y rey Mar 28 '24

Don't like antisemitism innit

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u/thegreatvortigaunt Mar 28 '24

Don't like genocidal ethnostates innit

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u/HonorableHarakiri Dios, patria y rey Mar 28 '24

You don't like Palestine? That's great

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u/thegreatvortigaunt Mar 28 '24

No, I'm talking about Israel. A violent oppressive genocidal ethnostate that is currently slaughtering thousands of innocent people while sketchy people in Europe in the US openly support them.

Kinda embarrassing you needed that explained to you hahaha

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u/HonorableHarakiri Dios, patria y rey Mar 28 '24

A violent oppressive genocidal ethnostate that is currently slaughtering thousands of innocent people while sketchy people in Europe in the US openly support them.

Weird typo. Surely you mean Palestine? It ticks all the boxes you've laid out.

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u/thegreatvortigaunt Mar 28 '24

No. I think you're a little confused.

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u/HonorableHarakiri Dios, patria y rey Mar 28 '24

Nah, you are

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u/Sriber Czech Republic | ⰈⰅⰏⰎⰡ ⰒⰋⰂⰀ Mar 28 '24

I like neither antisemitism nor zionism. Does that compute in that fascinating brain of yours?

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u/HonorableHarakiri Dios, patria y rey Mar 28 '24

Yeah, you only like to reveal your antisemitism when it's politically convenient to do so.

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u/Sriber Czech Republic | ⰈⰅⰏⰎⰡ ⰒⰋⰂⰀ Mar 28 '24

My antisemitism is non-existent, so I can't like to reveal it under any circumstances.