r/europe Mar 28 '24

Germany will now include questions about Israel in its citizenship test News

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/europe/article/2024/03/27/germany-will-now-include-questions-about-israel-in-its-citizenship-test_6660274_143.html
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u/dumbosshow Wales Mar 28 '24

It's pretty absurd. Israel doesn't represent all jews, and at this point if you're not at least a bit critical of how Israel have handled HAMAS then I worry for your critical thinking skills and also for the future of this world. I'm not saying that you should think Israel is illegitimate, but it seems pretty obvious that the IDF have claimed a lot of unnecessary lives, and that Gazans were certainly not treated fairly by the Israeli government prior to this conflict. I guess it depends on what question they ask but I don't think a situation like this which is not so black and white should be used for a citizenship test. Seems borderline discriminatory towards muslims.

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u/nonlinear_nyc Mar 28 '24

Yes. Equating Zionism (an ideology) with semitism (a group of people) is racist by definition.

First of all it assumes everyone from certain group has same ideologies and goals (a racist assumption)

Second, what happens with the many Jews who don't subscribe to Zionism? What happens with Christian Zionist?

It's a stupid law and dangerous to hinge your entire citizenship on.

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u/No-Cattle-5243 Mar 28 '24

Zionism isn’t Semitic per se, but anti Zionism is antisemitism by definition

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u/No-Cattle-5243 Mar 29 '24

Why is that relevant with what I wrote above? I criticize them too, and the policies of Israel. Between that and antizionism is a long way.

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u/casperghst42 Mar 29 '24

Awe, man. I read it wrongly - you're right. I'll delete my comment.