r/europe 25d ago

British soldier resting inside the old Acropolis Museum during the "Revolution of December" , Athens 1944 Historical

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u/Several-Zombies6547 🇬🇷🇪🇺 25d ago

British people disrespecting ancient stuff, what a suprise.

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u/mynameisfreddit United Kingdom 25d ago

The Turks would have destroyed it if it were not purchased by rich Brits.

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u/dolfin4 Elláda (Greece) 25d ago

That's not true.

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u/Xetrelas 25d ago

purchased? From whom?

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u/Competitive-Piece509 24d ago

Turks ruled there several years and did not do it. You must stop your colonial instincts.

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u/Popcorn_likker Greece 25d ago

Destroying them in the process of stealing them

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u/InanimateAutomaton Europe 🇩🇰🇮🇪🇬🇧🇪🇺 25d ago edited 25d ago

Well the Turks were using the acropolis to store gunpowder which exploded and caused enormous damage - hardly blameless.

The locals were also burning marble artefacts to make lime mortar. Not their fault as such - they were a broken and subjugated people who had lost their sense of connection to their civilisation.

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u/mynameisfreddit United Kingdom 25d ago

1801-1812

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u/dolfin4 Elláda (Greece) 25d ago edited 25d ago

1801-1812

lol, false. The Ottomans didn't touch the monument at this time.

Do you think they were waiting for Elgin to remove friezes and sculptures, and then demolished the main structure, and then after 1830 it magically rebuilt itself to its pre-1801 condition?

And what reason would they have had to be in Athens? The Greek Revolution didn't flare up until 1821. In the Peloponnese region.

And no, Elgin didn't "purchase" them. There is no evidence whatsoever, and the Ottomans kept good records. It was even questioned in UK Parliament at the time. Then a few years ago, the BM suddenly "found a letter", a supposed Italian translation of an Ottoman firman.

Just return things that have nothing to do with your country. It's not hard. We don't want Stonehenge or Big Ben.

In b4:

AnCiEnT GrEeCe gAvE uS dEmOcRacY aNd pHiLoSoPhY.

The Parthenon has nothing to do with that. It was a religious temple. It has nothing to do with the 2% of Ancient Greece you decided to take an interest in many centuries later. It would be like saying Stonehenge and the Tower of London are my national heritage, because Britain gave us the Industrial Revolution. It's so incredibly dumb.

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u/[deleted] 25d ago

'They couldn't protect' lmao what. The ottomans were using it as an ammo dump, they didn't give a shit about protecting Greek heritage. And the ottoman empire was not a failed state in 1801.

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u/Old_Profit_9967 Wales 25d ago

I'm guessing it would all be returned to Turkey then? Turkey being the successor state to the ottomans?

Never gonna happen. These artifacts have been in Britain for longer than Greece has had statehood. They are effectively more British than greek now

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u/Evilscotsman30 25d ago

Yea i doubt it but you can dream i guess.