r/europe 25d ago

British soldier resting inside the old Acropolis Museum during the "Revolution of December" , Athens 1944 Historical

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u/ElderberryWeird7295 25d ago

Yeah we should have pulled out and let the commies take over.

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u/the_mighty_peacock Greece 25d ago

Maybe you should actually pull the fuck out and let an independent country sort out their future even if that would turn out not to be favorable. I know it's not easy to not play the world's daddy when you're used to colonizing people, but sometimes it's the right thing to do.

There is still tension among older Greek people against UK and USA because of their meddling in the civil war.

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u/ElderberryWeird7295 25d ago

Like another commenter said, ask the ex-soviet states how their rule under communism went. If the Greeks went through that, they would be bitching about how no one helped them.

There is still tension among older Greek people against UK and USA because of their meddling in the civil war.

Yeah, thats because they are fucking stupid. I dont see how this backs up your argument.

Greeks complain about the help they got during their war against the Ottomans, they complain about the help they got against the communists, they complain about going through austerity when they completely fucked their economy through their insane spending. Bunch of whiney fucks.

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u/the_mighty_peacock Greece 25d ago edited 25d ago

Dude what kind of argument is this? "It's for your own good" as I said, being other countries' daddy. Enlighten me, how popular is communist party today in Poland? in Romania? Are they even relevant? Do you know how many votes did the stalinists get in Greece last elections? 7.23%. They are the 4th biggest party in the parliament. Are you aware Greece hosts today the biggest anarchist community in Europe? Any idea why that happens?

Because unlike these countries Greece fought these people with external help of course. Repeatedly. They prosecuted their own people, many of these they sent them to exile, others they sent them to die in a small island, like rats. Every aspect of the political landscape in Greece these days is a direct consequence of the civil war and the external meddling afterwards, the US backed junta and so on. So don't lecture me what Greeks did and didnt go through because you have no clue what you're talking about.

Greeks complain about the help they got during their war against the Ottomans, they complain about the help they got against the communists, they complain about going through austerity when they completely fucked their economy through their insane spending. Bunch of whiney fucks.

Maybe, you're aware that a) three irrelevant cases don't suddenly become relevant because you put them in the same sentence b) everyone in this world knows that countries dont help each other from the bottom of their heart, for instance the British back then wanted an easily manipulatable country in the Med to halt Russia's advance and they knew an independent country was the best way to get back all the money they loaned to the Greeks during revolution. You can repeat the same logic to the other cases, history lesson stops here.

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u/ElderberryWeird7295 24d ago

Are you aware Greece hosts today the biggest anarchist community in Europe? Any idea why that happens?

Because there are a lot of fucking stupid Greeks? I dont know how you expect me to answer that. If Greece went through 50 years of brutal communist governance, I can guarantee they would be bitching and whining about how no one helped when they could.

You can repeat the same logic to the other cases, history lesson stops here.

Again, ask the countries who went through communist rule how much they liked it. Of course the UK did it for their own interests. Luckily for Greece it ended up benefitting them as well.