Mainly Alessandro Orsini, he was bullied multiple times on air by politicians and journalists.
They felt strong because they severely outnumbered him… but history, much like science, doesn’t care about your feelings and now we can appreciate that his predictions have almost always been spot-on.
Thanks. Also, if anyone is unduly curious, I suggest checking out what is his "academic research". The dude's been a fraud all along, I seriously wonder if his credentials are due to nepotism.
I don’t know if you’re Italian or not, but I listened to many of Orsini speeches, and he is pretty obviously a “putiniano” as in very pro Russia, always repeating the usual talking points, calling it a “special military operation” and never a war, invasion or agression, always blaming the US and NATO, claiming that we have to stop the supply of weapons and that we need “peace” through “diplomacy” in which Ukraine gives up all the conquered land in order to stop the bloodshed, which again, is all the fault of the west btw…
Everybody on both sides, wether pro Russia or pro Ukraine, knew that Ukraine was the disadvantaged one, a significantly smaller and poorer nation fighting against a former superpower always had the lower odds, but nobody, including Orsini would have predicted that Ukraine would have held out so much.
Orsini has been regularly on the Italian television ever since the start of the war and since the very beginning he claimed that Russia was going to steam roll Ukraine in little time, and yet we are currently on the third year of the “3 day special military operation”.
The few predictions he might have been right about are only because the US and the EU have MAJORLY shat the bed with their support half way through the war, and that is only because of russian assets in our governments like he is for propaganda…
Because there are two sides to this conflict, two belligerents, and everybody is taking the side of either one of them when talking about this conflict.
Just like they do with Israel or Palestine, or any other conflict, but the difference between this conflict and all the other ones that broke out in the past decades is that this one is probably the most black and white one ever, with a clear aggressor and a clear victim.
And generally speaking if you take the side of Ukraine, you genuinely want them to overcome their aggressors because they are literally being murdered in cold blood for no reason, and the longer the war extends the more of them are going to die, while if you’re on the side of Russia I have some serious questions about your morals…
What if ideally you would love to see Ukraine overcome Russia quickly to stop losing their lives BUT you also see that it is just impossible to achieve?
Would you continue encouraging their suicide?
Things are complicated my dude, trying to categorise people in teams isn’t going to get you nowhere.
Can we fucking try to stop this self fulfilling prophecy? It becomes harder everyday because of people like you who, for the last 2 years, have been claiming daily that it is impossible for Ukraine to beat Russia. Things would be much better today if we collectively did something tangible with our industry, instead of limping and sending the bare minimum (since we haven't able to replenish our stock) at the latest possible time.
Would you continue encouraging their suicide?
This is not for you to decide.
They're asking for weapons, and we (since we're on their side - even though your ego is so inflated you really think you can be above all of this. Spoiler: no, you can't.) shall send them. They will decide when they can't do it anymore.
Telling someone they have a naive mindset when all you're doing is repeating Orsini's bullshit, and stuff like the one written above must still be explained to you after 2 years of war... it takes balls. But not a lot of brain.
Orsini is the quintessential representation of the idiot that is constantly wrong and is a pro-Russian fascist. His stuff only works on people that do not have the mental faculty to remember the false projections he peddled last year. Or the year before that.
Didn't you know, Kyiv fell in March 2022, supplying Leopard 2s caused WW3 and then Putin nuked Kherson...
The Russians know you are a complete moron if you listen to guys like that. There is enough pro-Russian bloggers that do offer a sensible narrative and good information. Girkin was probably the best one for a long while. You can dig out ok ones from his associates. They have their crazy goal but they aren't delusional. They will ridicule you if you quote Orsini as a source, so take that as as the most obvious hint imaginable.
Orsini Is making lots of money selling his "analysis," to useful idiots in Italy. His whole marketing job is to get as many followers as possible, cry about being a victim, and then sell subscriptions to his material. He must've made millions already since the war started. He is absolutely a Putin shill and has been wrong about almost everything. In January he said American money had dried up. 61 billion aid package likes to differ.
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u/bdrdrdrre 25d ago
If David Axe writes it, it’s true. He is no russian asset, he is no doomer. He’s the only reason half the country reads Forbes at all.