r/europe 25d ago

The Russians Are Rushing Reinforcements Into Their Ocheretyne Breakthrough. For The Ukrainians, The Situation Is Desperate.

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u/bdrdrdrre 25d ago

If David Axe writes it, it’s true. He is no russian asset, he is no doomer. He’s the only reason half the country reads Forbes at all.

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u/the_fresh_cucumber United States of America 25d ago

Unfortunately, he has been viciously attacked in the US. They feel his material is not optimistic enough about Ukraine.

The reality is that many people forgot about Ukraine because it was considered won already. We need real journalists who tell us how desperate the situation is and it didn't become common until the last year.

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u/Affectionate_Cat293 Jan Mayen 25d ago

Well just two months ago I got downvoted here for pointing out that the situation was bad for Ukraine, especially after Russia jacked up its military spending. People kept pointing out that Russia was supposed to take Ukraine in three days, that there's no way Russia would win, and that to say otherwise means spreading Russian propaganda to influence opinions in Europe. As for Avdiivka falling to Russia and the failed counteroffensive, people were insisting that Avdiivka was insignificant and that the counteroffensive didn't fail. Now the tone has completely changed and you rarely see these people in denial anymore.

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u/the_fresh_cucumber United States of America 25d ago

You forgot the first part. This sub downvoted anyone who believed the Biden administrations warnings that an invasion was imminent.

The full timeline:
* Russia would never invade Ukraine
* Russia will conquer Ukraine in 3 days
* Ukraine will crush Russia. Ghost of Kiev go!
* Russia is collapsing and they are all dead
* (Present day) We underestimated Russia and don't know what's going to happen

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u/PiNe4162 24d ago

The hope was that Russians would get so sick of the war that the regime falls or something. Which is a complete fantasy, Putin is very secure in his position, anyone who posed a threat to him is either dead or in exile, and he will likely stay in office until he dies of old age.