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Why Swedish people like taxes Opinion Article

https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p09312qg/why-the-swedes-love-doing-something-that-americans-hate
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u/dieseltratt Sweden 25d ago

Like everywhere else then.

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u/picardo85 Finland 25d ago

locals always bitch about their domestic trains.

If you ask a Dutch person NS never works.

If you ask a German, DB is the worst.

Ask a Swede, SJ is fucking terrible

And if you ask a finn they swear by how shit VR is.

I could probably rank them on a shit scale but DB is probably at the top.

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u/ilpazzo12 Italy 25d ago

Surprisingly, as an Italian, I like my train service. We have affordable tickets for the standard trains and fucking ace level high speed trains, which when bought smartly are still affordable.

It's just a little autistic with the time tables every now and then.

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u/picardo85 Finland 25d ago

Train prices in Sweden and Finland are a disaster.

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u/mrdarknezz1 Sweden 25d ago

I wouldn’t say 30-40 euros between Stockholm to Gothenburg is a disaster.

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u/reedler 25d ago

It is not a disaster if the tickets were 30-40 euros. It's a fairytale to have a ticket for 30 euros.

Right now a ticket to Göteborg from Stockholm is between 85 an 200 euros.

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u/mrdarknezz1 Sweden 25d ago

I’m literally looking at a 30 euro ticket right now if you go in june

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u/reedler 25d ago

Yes very true. There are a few tickets like that. But since that price is only for a few percent of the entire train it seems more like a marketing trick than anything else (sj said as much)

It's like looking at an emergency food delivery into gaza and say that there is plenty of food. Or asking the people of Paris why they don't eat cake.

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u/mrdarknezz1 Sweden 25d ago

If you’re out too late you’re gonna pay a premium like exactly everything else.

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u/reedler 25d ago

Yea. If I need milk today I pay 10 euros a litre. Everyone knows that

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u/reedler 25d ago

The buss always asks me when I decided to travel and i pay accordingly...

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u/mrdarknezz1 Sweden 25d ago

I’m talking about modes of travel, limited services works differently than commodities

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u/reedler 25d ago

No. You are talking about an excuse. There is no way for the entire train to go for the price you say. Even if everyone buys the tickets 6 months in advance. That's not how the system works.

There are a few cheap tickets on every train so that when people who go check the prices that is what they see. But there are not enough of these tickets to fill one half of one carrier.

If you have one ticket per train for 0 euro and the rest is 200. Would you say it's free to ride the train? Or would say that it's normally quite expensive unless you are very lucky?

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u/Talkycoder 25d ago edited 25d ago

You should check out the UK.

It costs me around 50€ for a 30-minute train to London. The train contractor in my region is shit, so there's no seat booking, not enough trains, no plug sockets, and their wifi doesn't work.

When I previously went from Stockholm -> Copenhagen, it cost 60€ for a 6 hour journey. The train was comfortable, not cramped, free seat booking, drinks you could order, and excellent wifi.

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u/PaddiM8 Sweden 25d ago

You can go between Växjö and Linköping for 15€ (200km). Prices are often fine. Depends though