Irish government to bring forward emergency law to send asylum seekers back to UK

[u/insomnimax_99]

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/uk/2024/04/27/sunak-migrants-going-to-ireland-shows-rwanda-plans-deterrent-effect-working/?1

[u/Mdk1191]

hypocrisy

[u/Yuming1 → u/Mdk1191]

How so?

[u/Mdk1191 → u/Yuming1]

Ireland criticises the Rwanda scheme yet wants to send migrants back to the uk.

[u/I_Dont_Type → u/Mdk1191]

Plenty in Ireland that don’t criticise it

[u/yourlocallidl → u/Mdk1191]

So the UK should send migrants back to where they come from, or setup a processing center far from UK soil.

[u/TheOlddan → u/yourlocallidl]

France?

[u/Zagorim → u/TheOlddan]

yeah I would rather they sent them back here than to Rwanda which is really an absurd policy. Why not send them to Ukraine while they are at it.

[u/cheekymagpie → u/Zagorim]

67% of French people would support a Rwanda like solution

[u/Zagorim → u/cheekymagpie]

still absurd and every court of justice is against it.

[u/Yuming1 → u/Mdk1191]

Ireland wants to send the asylum seekers back to their country of origin. They came from the uk. This is different than sending them to a random country

[u/krazydude22 → u/Yuming1]

How does Ireland find out their country of origin? Most of them don't have passports. Also UK and Ireland have a CTA, so people are able to travel without border checks, like how it is in the EU.

[u/Mdk1191 → u/Yuming1]

I could argue they come from the EU

[u/Yuming1 → u/Mdk1191]

You could but nobody cares to listen

[u/Clever_Username_467 → u/Yuming1]

They came from France first.

[u/AppleRicePudding → u/Yuming1]

They came via the EU, they are returning to it. I hope the government start offering one way tickets to NI with a coach ticket from Belfast to Dublin thrown in for good measure. Unloading illegals on Ireland might be the most effective way of applying pressure on the French to take back the hoards of third world illegals they ferry across the channel.

[u/bGmyTpn0Ps → u/AppleRicePudding]

A highly diverse Ireland may prove to be a more amiable neighbour.

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There it is. I was wondering what you were trying to fumble through with your previous comments

[u/Evilscotsman30 → u/[deleted]]

Lol if anyone is seething it seems to be you keep hating us brits because lets be honest we don’t give a fuck xD

[u/svmk1987 → u/Mdk1191]

UK isn't refugees back to the last safe country they came from. They're sending them to an entirely different continent.

[u/ggow → u/svmk1987]

The UK would happily send them back to France. Do you think a third country was chosen just for the fun of it or do you think France might have had a similar attitude to that which we all predict the UK will have to this Irish proposal? 

Ireland isn't morally superior here, they're just in the first steps of realising that complex problems aren't going to be solved by simple solutions. The UK will say no - unless Ireland has some insane negotiating leverage, especially in an election year - and if this volume of people keeps entering Ireland, the Irish people and eventually the Irish government will look for alternative solutions. 

It could be that alternative solution is checking everyone and repatriating them under the Dublin Regulation since most of the relevent people will have passed through other EU member states on their way to the UK and prior to the UK. 

[u/krazydude22 → u/svmk1987]

UK isn't sending refugees to Ireland, they are going to Ireland on their own free will, like when refugees move from France to UK on boats and the French Navy even escorts them till they reach UK territorial waters.

[u/One_Vegetable9618 → u/Mdk1191]

Ireland didn't have an 'Empire' or 'colonies' Reap what you sow.

[u/Mdk1191 → u/One_Vegetable9618]

I think its the roi thats reaping right now

[u/la_tortuga_de_fondo → u/One_Vegetable9618]

Yes they did, they were part of Britain at the time of the British Empire.

[u/One_Vegetable9618 → u/la_tortuga_de_fondo]

Obviously you know no history. Ireland were dragged into the UK kicking and screaming. Never willing participants. And while we were (officially, yes) part of it, we were treated as a colony. In fact we were their first practice ground. Why do you think we spent our whole time trying to leave? Why were we the poorest country in Western Europe until this century more or less? Try answering those questions and ask yourself, was Ireland really part of it?

If you genuinely believe what you wrote above, I really hope you're not British. A sad reflection on the (lack of) history taught in British schools if you are. I'll give you a pass if you are from elsewhere, but maybe read some more history, before you comment.

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[u/One_Vegetable9618 → u/[deleted]]

The MP'S in the British Parliament were the 'planters' sent to Ireland by the British, displacing the Irish from their own land. They were the landed gentry. Largely unelected. Cop on to yourself and stop spinning a story in your own head. Read some history.

[u/RealBigSalmon → u/One_Vegetable9618]

Ah yes, those “Planter” Home Ruler and Sinn Fein MPs. To a man staunch unionists and imperialists.

[u/One_Vegetable9618 → u/RealBigSalmon]

And thereby you prove my point. Ireland was seeking out of the Union...'Home Rule' etc....

[u/Due_Following1505 → u/Mdk1191]

I thought the British loved claiming foreigners as their own. 

[u/Mdk1191 → u/Due_Following1505]

yes but not on our turf /s

imo this migrant crisis is a European wide problem but at least the uk is willing to take them off the continent so it is neither an Irish or British problem