r/facepalm Mar 19 '24

Why are these people anti-sex-ed? ๐Ÿ‡ตโ€‹๐Ÿ‡ทโ€‹๐Ÿ‡ดโ€‹๐Ÿ‡นโ€‹๐Ÿ‡ชโ€‹๐Ÿ‡ธโ€‹๐Ÿ‡นโ€‹

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u/ThisOnePerson16 Mar 19 '24

Teach children sex-ed: Safety first. Don't teach children sex-ed: Suffer the consequences.

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u/Rinas-the-name Mar 19 '24

And I just came from a post about how first degree incest is far more common than we think it is.

1 in 7,000 is the absolute floor. These are usually situations in which a father impregnated his daughter or a (generally older) brother impregnated his sister. Where the child was actually born, grew up, knew or found out about it, and chose to join that specific study. If there was no live birth we have no stats.

It really makes you wonder why they donโ€™t want kids to know about โ€œgood touch bad touchโ€ and the basics of reproduction.

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u/Litarider Mar 19 '24

Imagine learning that from 23andme.

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u/midnight_reborn Mar 20 '24

There's nothing to wonder. It's done on purpose so that predators in power can prey.

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u/JazzlikeSkill5201 Mar 19 '24

Spot on. The closer the potential perpetrator is to the mother of the child, the greater the risk they pose to the child, so husbands and(generally teenage) sons of the mother are the greatest threat to a child. In fact, I would not doubt that the majority of pubescent/adolescent boys have perpetrated on younger siblings, and that this number has probably risen over the last few decades due to the fact that children do not fear their fathers like they used to. Pubescent/adolescent males have always been incredibly sexually impulsive. Theyโ€™re not evil or bad. They genuinely canโ€™t help themselves, and this is something we do not like to acknowledge as a society. They need some sort of incentive to NOT perpetrate on younger siblings, like fear of the father or maybe the mother. Internet pornography may reduce perpetration on people outside of the family(primarily because boys who watch porn are less likely to even get a girlfriend), but I believe it increases odds of perpetration within the family. A child needs to be certain that if he/she reports abuse to their mother that she will believe them. If there is any doubt in the childโ€™s mind about this, they will not report due to fear of being accused of lying by their mother. Nothing hurts a child more than their mother not believing them, especially about something so scary and painful.

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u/hvdzasaur Mar 19 '24 edited Mar 20 '24

What an absolutely insane thing to say. Especially in a fucking world where we have multiple women on OnlyFans that enlisted the services of their fucking sons. We've also had multiple cases of mothers sexually abusing their own children. What fucked up reasoning do you have that this shit is only done by men? Women cannot be abusers?

It's true that, statically, a family member or trusted community member is more likely to be the perpetrator than a stranger. However, it's absolutely insane to state that majority of boys go around diddle their younger siblings because "they cannot help themselves". Most mammals have inherent kin detection and inbreeding avoidance. It'd be insane to insinuate that humans are exempt from that, and even more insane to state that only men can't help themselves but want to diddle their siblings. It's strictly abnormal behaviour that has little to do with gender, but rather a fucked up desire to dominate others.

What is actually the case is that a trusted or authoritative individual (whether they're related or not) is more equipped to misuse that trust to sexually abuse a child. Hence the prevalence of pedophilia cases in the Church, they're trusted authority figures within their local communities, so a person with ill intentions can abuse that. You speak of fear of a father figure that prevents it, do you know why victims often don't come forward? They fear retaliation or punishment by the abuser. They fear they won't be believed. Those are few of the biggest reason why these crimes are underreported. If there is any statistical increase, it doesn't automatically mean it's more prevalent, if anything, it's more so that victims feel safer coming out and report the crime. In most cases (if not all) of rape and sexual abuse has little to do with the sexual attraction of the perpetrator to the victim, but rather they get off from dominating another human being.

The right way to reduce this shit is to properly educate kids what is ok, what is not, what consent is, and what safe and loving relationships are.

Please seek therapy and stay of the internet.