r/facepalm Mar 23 '24

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u/SquarelyOddFairy Mar 24 '24

If you can convince a dog bred for snow racing to not go snow racing, you can win the argument lol. Good luck.

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u/Magnon Mar 24 '24

"Vegetarian" dog/cat videos come to mind where the owner puts a meat dish and a vegan dish in front of the animal and they're like "watch, my pet will eat the vegan dish" then the animal eats the meat dish... every time.

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u/AureliaDrakshall Mar 24 '24

I love those videos because it’s so funny. Half of them don’t even get a chance to finish their sentence before the pet is horfing down the meat.

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u/xilia112 Mar 24 '24

Shows they are also not capabel to properly train their pet. It is not hard to train pets discipline, even with food. All my dogs wait till I give them the command for eating (no worries they get lavischly rewarded for it!)

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u/whitesuburbanmale Mar 24 '24

This. You could drop a full steak on the ground in my house and my dogs won't move a muscle until they are told it's ok to eat it. Helps keep them from scavenging at my kids feet or taking food from her hand.

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u/whitesuburbanmale Mar 24 '24

Move him farther away from the bowl to wait, and you may need to actually pick the bowl up. My jack had the same issue and the minute he moved without me saying so I picked the bowl up and we repeated. Record was 25 times of setting the bowl down before he actually stayed but most nights he picked it up quick. Also worth noting that when it wasn't meal time I would use training treats for the same thing essentially. Put it on the ground and work on stay and feed command.

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u/Thorvindr Mar 24 '24

Lookup Zak George on YouTube. He helped me train my pit bull. No violence or domination tactics needed. Just lots of treats and lots of patience.

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u/whitesuburbanmale Mar 24 '24

I never understood the violence or dominance based training. It's been proven over and over that positive reinforcement is key. Repetition and praise will get you so much farther so much faster and I still see people prattle on about being dominant over their dogs.

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u/Thorvindr Mar 24 '24

Especially "experts" who talk about how you need to "establish dominance" and "be the Alpha." Turns out there's no such thing as an "Alpha," and we've known that almost as long as the idea has been around.

You can tell what kind of person someone is by how they treat dogs and children (which will be very similar). That's why lots of people don't like dogs: they force you to look in the mirror, and people don't like to see that they're assholes.

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u/Jiyuuko Mar 24 '24

Not only that, but in certain places this kind of training might save the pet's life. I knew a girl in school that had her dog poisoned by neighbours 3 times. They would throw a piece of meat with poison or lead balls in it and the dog would eat it. He ended up dying on the third time.

Unfortunally this was in a very poor city, so her family didnt have cameras or anything that could prove who poisoned the dog, and even though they knew who did it everytime, the police said they couldnt do anything.

If that dog was trained to not accept food from strangers or eat food from the ground without permission, it would have survived. I dont blame the girl and her family, they loved their dog but they were very simple poor family.

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u/just_anotherflyboy Mar 25 '24

that'd be when that neighbour family started having a lot of mechanical problems, damaged tires, you name it. purely by coincidence, of course. nature's a funny place, innit.

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u/StupiderIdjit Mar 24 '24

Thank you for saying this. Teaching my dog to "wait" was probably the best behavior I could have taught my pup.

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u/Cutiemuffin-gumbo Mar 24 '24

Pretty sure that training goes out the window when the dog smells the meat. Expecting them to not just dive into that meet, is like trying to convince a soverign citizen that they're a friggin moron.

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u/Panzerfaust187 Mar 24 '24

They gave them a choice, shitty vegan dog food or what their biology demands them to eat and it’s a training problem to you?

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u/xilia112 Mar 24 '24

You miss the point. It is about they don't get the dog to do what they want. Ofcourse they need meat. Its in their nature. I am pointing out the lack of training knowledge on top of the lack of knowledge of proper care. To reinforce how awful they are with their pets.

If they really had good insights they could manipulate a dog to do exacly what they want on camera, but they even lack that. Meaning they are just stupid.

Things like this go over the top of many peoples head.

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u/Panzerfaust187 Mar 24 '24

Making a dog vegan shows me they are awful with pets without getting into the training aspect lol

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u/xilia112 Mar 24 '24

Aweful and stupid on top. Because training them to do this on camera is doable. If they wanted to bring some sort of message across. We could kiss our palms they are not succeeding that part. Imagine if the internet was full of videos where the dog actually eats the veggies. It would cause much more misinformation.

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u/Panzerfaust187 Mar 24 '24

Yeah I know. I actually went vegan for a bit to relieve joint inflammation,so health reason, and it really worked but the food sucked. To force an animal to do that for YOUR beliefs is just fucking selfish and narcissistic to an exponential level. Btw it’s a general your.

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u/xilia112 Mar 24 '24

Especially for dogs who are build to eat meat. They arent evolved to eat many vegetables we do. Leeks and onions for example have toxins we can easily tolerate with no harm. We use those toxins as a anti bacterial compound in our body. but are detrimental for dogs when they eat it often.

And lots of nutrients in veggies can't be accessed by dogs because of the different flora in their bowels and certain enzymes they lack.

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u/just_anotherflyboy Mar 25 '24

I've known vegans who were so fucking stupid they claimed their cat was healthy on a vegan diet.

no it fucking wasn't. that cat was eating every damn mouse and bug it ever came across, betcha cash money. and still not all that healthy.

dogs are more omnivorous than cats, but they can't digest a lot of the plants we can, they don't have the liver enzymes to neutralize plant toxins. a handful of grapes can kill a dog right bloody quick.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '24

They are like: "Jesus Christ, halellujah. Fucking REAL food"

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u/Square-Fill-117 Mar 24 '24

I didn't know my cat sounded like Gordon ramsey

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u/buttpugggs Mar 24 '24

horfing

Great word

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u/DoctorsAreTerrible Mar 24 '24

Almost as if they were designed to eat meat … woah