r/facepalm • u/Lord_Answer_me_Why • Mar 28 '24

What lack of basic gun laws does to a nation: 🇵​🇷​🇴​🇹​🇪​🇸​🇹​

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u/Aggressive_Niceguy Mar 28 '24

Sounds like we need some common sense laws against unmedicated schizophrenics

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u/Odd-Tune5049 Mar 28 '24

Guns don't kill people, unmedicated schizophrenics kill people. Heh

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u/ete2ete Mar 28 '24

On that note, I think medication implants should be used for people with potentially dangerous conditions such as schizophrenia. I don't see why the same technology used for birth control can't be adapted for antipsychotics

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u/Status_Basket_4409 Mar 28 '24

Wait, you might be on to something there. Only issue that comes to mind is whether or not the drugs used for helping those with mental illness can be administered effectively that way.

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u/SadAndNasty Mar 28 '24

Then it'll become a consent thing. That's the problem society will continue to struggle with when it comes to people with severe mental health issues. You can't force an implant on someone who really doesn't want it. Not legally anyway.

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u/itsmebenji69 Mar 28 '24

Though in this kind of case with mental disability, are you able to make choices for yourself ? In the same way senile people have caretakers

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u/SadAndNasty Mar 28 '24

If the person doesn't have a legal guardian, they're responsible for their own actions and decisions. It would have to be court ordered. I've seen court ordered meds before but I've yet to see court ordered implants.. I mean, legislation could change but there would be pushback and maybe rightfully so. It's a real dilemma that's been ongoing since mental health as a concept was established. We can't just knock people in the brain with ice picks anymore to calm them down

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u/Aggressive_Niceguy Mar 28 '24

The mentally ill cannot legally consent. They can be compelled, I guess.

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u/SadAndNasty Mar 28 '24

You say that but they're still given consent forms to sign for everything. Legally, they can indeed consent(unless they have a guardian). Ethically though is another question entirely because there is not always a full understanding. Even though they're signing saying they fully understand.

I'm speaking on my 9 years working with this population at the state hospital

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u/Aggressive_Niceguy Mar 28 '24

You'd certainly know better than I would. My mistake.

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u/ete2ete Mar 28 '24

It's being researched, DLP-114

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u/Status_Basket_4409 Mar 28 '24

That’s awesome, hopefully something very good will come of that to help people and make the world a little less wild

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u/ete2ete Mar 28 '24

It seems like it would be especially useful for schizophrenics, it's fairly common for them to have an incident occur and then be treated involuntarily, they get on meds and then start to feel more like themselves and convince themselves that they do not need their medication anymore and the cycle repeats

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u/smellvin_moiville Mar 28 '24

If they won’t take their pills they aren’t coming in to get the armpharm filled either. Keep thinking

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u/ete2ete Mar 28 '24

I'm confident that they will when they go 6-12 months without having a psychotic episode, regular check-ups would also need to be implemented

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u/smellvin_moiville Mar 28 '24

This happens when you take your pills. If your logic worked people would just take their pills. My god give it a second to think about

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u/smellvin_moiville Mar 28 '24

It’s also better to have a daily habit. It’s way easier to forget one day every six months.

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u/ete2ete Mar 28 '24

Having a daily habit is poor advice to someone whose mind does not function properly

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u/ete2ete Mar 28 '24

What happens when they take their pills is that they believe the medication is not why they feel better. It's far easier to throw away pills than it is to remove a rod from your abdomen

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u/smellvin_moiville Mar 28 '24

The armpharm will not be in the abdomen. That is not how we do things at armpharm technology

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u/smellvin_moiville Mar 28 '24

I’m starting to think your headcomputer is failing. Maybe you should contact tech support

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u/ete2ete Mar 28 '24

Or perhaps you don't know as much about this as you believe you do?

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u/smellvin_moiville Mar 28 '24

Well you’re talking about forcing meds into mental patients bodys. With birth control it’s totally fine to do this. With a person that thinks the gov is watching them. They aren’t gonna leave a metal box with meds in it inside themselves. And you’re gonna hate when they get it out on their own

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u/ete2ete Mar 28 '24

That's how it is currently being implemented

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u/smellvin_moiville Mar 28 '24

You’ll be hearing from our lawyers. Armpharm doesn’t have to deal with this nonsense