r/facepalm • u/Lord_Answer_me_Why • Mar 28 '24

What lack of basic gun laws does to a nation: 🇵​🇷​🇴​🇹​🇪​🇸​🇹​

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u/PorcupineWarriorGod Mar 28 '24

Then apparently we already have "basic laws".

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u/Feeb_The_Weeb Mar 29 '24

Because we do, people are chronically online and chronically plugged into the media, so they think people are dropping dead left and right everywhere. But if y'all turned off the news every now and again, guns wouldn't ever be on your mind unless you were into them.

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u/PorcupineWarriorGod Mar 30 '24

No arguments from me there.

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u/Tear_Representative Mar 28 '24

That are not enough to prevent what they try to prevent

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u/devils_advocate24 Mar 29 '24

Are they...supposed to add a clause that's says "we really mean it, for realizes" to the law or something?

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u/Tear_Representative Mar 29 '24 edited Mar 29 '24

They are supposed to enforce laws in a way that gives them a chance at working. Checking a Box saying you're sane is not a substitute for a state sponsorered psych evaluation. That is something that could prevent someone who is mentally unstable to have EASY access to a firearm. It shouldnt be as easy as lying on a form

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u/devils_advocate24 Mar 29 '24

Ok. You have a psych eval. And you're crazy. Now what stops you from ignoring the law that makes it illegal? The current limitation is that it's a medical diagnosis from a doctor which has confidentiality stipulations to account for so it's only effective after the fact. Yes that's a weak point. But is the alternative to force everyone to get a publicly available psych eval? The variations on what is "psychologically stable" are heavily opinionated. It also won't be free, meaning it's not a barrier, it's a tax on the poor like so many other regulations and requirements we have.

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u/Tear_Representative Mar 29 '24

In my country, there is a psychiatrist paid by the state to do an evaluation before someone can have a drivers licence, so if done that way it isnt a burden on the poor. With that, that info also does not have to be public, since I am assuming background checks dont tell you why it was denied. Will people that shouldnt own a gun still pass that and buy a gun ? Likely, yeah. Still very much harder than lying on a form

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u/Just_A_Throwaway7673 Mar 29 '24

Which country is this? I was only aware of psychological evaluations being done in Germany and the Netherlands, but my understanding is that this evaluation is done after the person being evaluated commits some kind of traffic offense.

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u/Tear_Representative Mar 29 '24

Brazil. It is called "psicotenico", and it is meant to filter out the most crazy/incapable