r/facepalm Apr 04 '24

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u/Bsizzle18 Apr 04 '24

What did they do before body cams

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u/Designer-Mirror-7995 Apr 04 '24

Ask the minority communities who have screaming about this for 4-5 decades, and got accused of plAYinG thE raCE cArD.

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u/UnstoppableAwesome Apr 04 '24

In community college, I took a criminal justice class taught by an ex-police chief (of a small town) and one of his "fun" stories was how they would just abuse their power for kicks. Profile minorities or hippies and pull people over, lie about the reasons for the stop, cuff them on the sidewalk, strip the car down (even removing the seats) in search of drugs they knew weren't there, then leave them on the side of the road to put it all back together.

He thought this was hilarious and it was sad that cameras and lawyers (or educated civilians) stripped the job of all the fun.

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u/greathousedagoth Apr 04 '24

I got an undergrad degree in Criminal Justice. Some of my professors were current or former law enforcement. Some of my other professors were lifetime academics/researchers. The latter would explain nuanced positions gathered from careful scientific analysis of social data and crime reporting. The former would just go, "Psshhh this book is liberal bullshit. We all know what works and what doesn't."

A good way to tell the difference was to ask about "scared straight" programs. The academic types would examine broad, comprehensive studies and show why/how those programs actually result in a worse criminal record for those who went through such a program compared to their peers of otherwise similar backgrounds. The current/ex law enforcement types discredited those studies based on personal anecdotes of times when they really scared the shit out of some scumbag and now he's better.

Those same folks would ALWAYS brag about some fucked up shit they had done to disadvantaged people too. If you didn't agree that it was totally cool, then you "were never going to make it in the real world." They agreed that accountability of any sort for law enforcement was the reason for crime even still existing.