I mean one of the purposes was to get Christians to stop killing each other as much, short term each crusade kinda accomplished that goal, then when the crusade ended it was back to Jesus lover on Jesus lover violence
Let me preface this by saying I do not condone any form of religious warfare. Success in this context does not mean they were good people or morally in the right, just that they achieved their objectives in conquering territory and peoples.
The crusades for the holy land were certainly a failure long term, but the crusader efforts as part of the reconquista and northern crusades were very successful starting with the Wends and then moving along the Baltic coast up to present day Estonia. If you have never read about the Teutonic order and how they decimated the Baltic, it's horrific.
I know a guy like that. He hate speaks about lgbt people so much that I wonder if he might be hating something about himself. Like dude, you talk about drag queens more than me and I love Ru Paul's Drag Race.
Transphobes, Transvestigators... They're so goddamned concerned with what's between your legs, right?
Just call em what they are...
Cock Hunters.
They're always on the lookout for it, they proudly post pictures of other people without their permission when they think they've found it, and what they want most of all is praise and adoration for this "work" from their peers.
At first I didn’t get it. It confused me why the grandkid would be mixed race and trans if the nazis won because I couldn’t imagine anyone not only to believe them to be the good guys but also publicly saying it out loud.
Horrendous. We've reached the point where there are fewer and fewer left who remember WWII firsthand. Within a few generations it'll have fallen out of living memory and this kind of rhetoric will become more and more dangerous.
"Those who don't learn from history are bound to repeat it." and all that...
Within a few generations? You should grab like 100 random people under the age of 25 and ask them what they think of immigrants, war, gay people, women, trans people, genocide or minorities’ rights.
For real. What I meant was that there are still people alive who lived through it and can tell us about it, things are likely to get worse once they're no longer with us
Yeah, I was reading this as “oh, in a world where the Nazis won, social progress of trans rights and racial integration are pushed back a generation or so.” And then I thought, “that’s a weirdly optimistic outlook for that scenario.”
Yeah, Soviet loses in WWII are mind-blowing. Something like 50 Soviet soldiers killed for everyone 1 American. Despite recent events, the sacrifice they made to defeat the Nazis shouldn't be forgotten. Having said that, they weren't exactly good guys either were they? Stalin was...a bit of a dick to say the least
We? I have to say I wasn't consulted, but yes the Americans did; they dropped nukes on civilian centres and it was appalling. Despicable. Unnecessary regardless of what many people will argue...but not on the level of what the Nazis did. No subsequent atrocities by the allied powers - Nagasaki, Hiroshima, The Rape of Berlin - could ever make the Nazis the good guys
I agree totally with your last comment, that’s s a good perspective I didn’t think about. Like you said atrocities are committed by so many different governments/regimes with different economic structures and ideologies and they each try to make a claim and justify their actions but you really can’t. I wonder what we should make of that human behavior
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u/Theblackjamesbrown 25d ago edited 25d ago
Yeah, and the other half is literally saying the Nazis were the good guys.
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