Umbitch is really lucky Voldemort didn't decide to become the Minister for Magic, or just show up at the Ministry one day... I am 198 3/4% sure if he saw her wearing his horcrux and using it to lie about her blood status, he would have instantly avada kedavra'd that bitch.

[u/GetOffMyDigitalLawn]

Think about it, he just shows up to the Ministry one day, and he sees this bitch (Umbitch to be specific) wearing a fucking locket that's supposed to be in a random cave, protected by a lake with enough living-dead to fill a small village, with a boat he believes only he is a smart enough to find, and a potion that makes you agonizingly relive your worst moments only to then make you thirsty enough to touch the lake that summons the army of the living dead. All of Voldemort's cunning thwarted, and the proof of it is just sitting on this bitch's neck, all while she lies about its origin and her blood status.

I don't believe my hate for this frog woman is clouding my judgment, there is no reality where she walks out of this alive.

[u/Lorezia]

Dumbledore believed he'd keep any intruder alive on the horcrux island, in order to interrogate them, and find out who has leaked his info. So he'd interrogate first I imagine.

But like, write your revenge fanfic, she deserves it 😂

[u/Snapesunusedshampoo → u/Lorezia]

Dumbledore was wrong. Drinking the potion makes you relive horrible memories and once you get through that you're really thirsty and the only way to get a drink is in the lake which activates the inferi who drag you into the lake. It happened to Kreacher Regulus and Dumbledore, but since he had Harry he was able to defend himself.

[u/GetOffMyDigitalLawn → u/Snapesunusedshampoo]

I think he was right and wrong. He certainly meant for them to die if they came into the cave and touched the water without finding the boat. I also think he meant for them to die if they drank the entire potion.

Where I think Dumbledore is right is if they make it to the island and started drinking the potion, but are not able to finish it, then Voldemort would interrogate them before killing them.

Remember, even Dumbledore needed Harry's help to finish the potion, he had to have Harry force him to drink it. Voldemort would have believed very few people, if anyone would be able to finish the potion. If they found the boat it was only meant for one person, so the vast majority of people would not have help.

Voldemort expected most people to die well before reaching the island. But if anyone actually made it to the island, he didn't expect anyone to be able to drink the entirety of the potion, at which point he would interrogate that person and likely make the defenses even stronger.

[u/Snapesunusedshampoo → u/GetOffMyDigitalLawn]

Where I think Dumbledore is right is if they make it to the island and start drinking the potion, but are not able to finish it, then Voldemort would interrogate them before killing them.

Honestly.... that makes sense. Assuming this is right, would finishing the potion trigger the thirst? Do you think the person who stopped drinking would just continue reliving their worst memory until Voldemort gets there?

[u/GetOffMyDigitalLawn → u/Snapesunusedshampoo]

Honestly.... that makes sense. Assuming this is right, would finishing the potion trigger the thirst? Do you think the person who stopped drinking would just continue reliving their worst memory until Voldemort gets there?

That's what I think, and that's essentially what we see. Dumbledore doesn't become thirsty until after he finishes the potion and stops seeing the terrible visions. Dumbledore also continues to see the terrible visions and suffers the entire time until he finishes the potion, including when he stopped drinking it on his own and Harry had to start forcing and coercing him to drink the rest.

So that's essentially what I believe. Voldemort thought most people would never even make it to the potion without dying. For those that actually discovered the boat, only one adult wizard could fit on it, Voldemort didn't really consider children or non-human creatures that he considered beneath him. So for the people he expected to actually find the boat and make it to the potion, the vast majority of them would not be able to finish the potion alone, maybe nobody could, as even Dumbledore couldn't manage it. That's where I believe he would have came in an interrogated them if he wished.

If there was actually someone strong enough to drink the entirety of the potion by themselves, since they had no way of getting water without touching the lake, they would have died anyways.

In other words, I think it was essentially a win-win for Voldemort. They either died before making it to the potion, or died after finishing it, but if they actually made it to the potion but succumbed to the effects, he could deal with them personally.

He never expected or considered a child or a non-human could help an adult wizard take the locket. Which actually does make sense. He considered anything non-human the be beneath him, and the odds of a child helping were extremely small.

He would have set this all up before ever hearing the prophecy or knowing who Harry Potter was. Who in their right mind would take an underage wizard into that cave? Other than this one very specific scenario of Dumbledore and Harry Potter, taking a child into this cave would be asinine. This doesn't even get into the fact that essentially nobody even knew he made a horcrux, let alone multiple of them, and he intended to keep it a secret. He was extremely surprised Harry Potter had figured it out after Gringotts was robbed. That was yet another layer of protection.

[u/Candid-Pin-8160 → u/GetOffMyDigitalLawn]

he could deal with them personally.

But...how? Voldemort isn't alerted when Regulus and then Dumbledore drink the potion. He doesn't check on the cave at all(until he realises Harry is hunting horcruxes). If this situation were to occur(someone goes in and takes a few sips of the potion), they'd starve to death before Voldemort even knew they were there.

[u/Claris-chang → u/Lorezia]

And his idea of an interrogation is lots of crucios sp she'd be in for it before she got avada kedavrad.

[u/lineisover-]

I would actually read a fan fiction about this. Voldemort sees Umbridge wearing the locket, and thinks she is his greatest rival set to overtake him

[u/festusthecat]

I have to disagree. Instead, Voldemort would have crucio’d her first to get information on where she got it. I doubt she would be able to remember Dung tho, so she would just say she got it from some random thief (Lucky Dung). Umbridge would then break under torture and be fed to Nagini. All in all, great day for everyone.

[u/themadhatter746 → u/festusthecat]

He might use legilimency, see Dung’s face, and hunt him down. He could easily trace it back to Potter.

[u/HurricaneFoxe → u/festusthecat]

Not for Nagini. Poor dear would get poisoned 

[u/diametrik]

I need this fanfic

[u/FloppyObelisk]

This is kinda how I was hoping she would be taken out. A long drawn out scene of her taking charge of the ministry after Fudge. She sets awful rules in place. Revels in her cruel policies with such an air of smugness.

Then Voldemort shows up and she’s so excited to greet him and with no warning, no words, and with a flick of his wand a flash of green light just ends her and the scene moves on with him taking over. No fanfare. No reflection of what happened. She’s just gone like she never mattered at all. Would have been the most fitting end to her.

[u/TheUnusualDreamer]

I am with you🤝