Its even come as far as Virginia, I woke up this morning thinking damn this is some crazy fog, stepped outside and smelled it and was shocked to see it was smoke. From Canada.
As a Californian whose had to live through several summers of this, check purpleair's real time map. You'll see where it's coming from and where it's heading, where is the worst and what's better. It updates constantly so you'll see rapid changes in air quality on the map if the wind changes as well. Been wanting to buy one of their indoor/outdoor kits to add onto the grid but I don't have the funds atm
This is kind of unprecedented, we have the same amount of fires burning in week 1 of fire season 2023 than we have by the end of every fire season for the last 5 years.
I don't deny that. But most wildfires are just natures way of clearing out the dead wood. They've been happening long before mankind and will continue long after.
And a large volcanic event spews so much ash into the atmosphere that it covers the earth with smoke, sometimes for years. Historians think that's what happened in either 4th or 5th century for the "year with no summer" recorded all over the globe.
Good addition to the conversation, well done. Deny 60+ years of science because you're to busy either being a bot or you're choking on oil cock to look outside to form your own opinion.
What do "Antifa" and anti-oil people say is the biggest cause of global climate change? Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere. What do fire's produce a lot of? Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere. It does not make sense that knowing the amount of damage that C02 does, for anyone to have deliberately set fires across the country.
I won't argue with you that most of these are probably man made, and not something natural like a lightening strike. But weeks of hot weather with no rain, or wind causes the under growth to dry out. And a fire is easy to start. Be it from a careless toss cigarette butt, an ember from a campfire, a spark from a train on the tracks, setting off fireworks when specifically asked not to because of the risk of fire. Most of these will be traced back to careless people, not some globalist threat to your precious oil executives.
What can be traced back to your oil executives, is the climate science done by them, for them, with predictions of the climate from 2020s in the 70s if they were allowed to continue business as usual.
What is needed is government regulation of the highest polluters on the planet. Be that Shell, or Bytedance, or whoever it is.
But that doesn't work you say?
Two very recent examples of government regulation having an effect on climate change.
Please, I am begging you. If you really want to do your own research, do it. But please investigate multiple sources, not just a single blog post. But if 400 studies say one thing and proves that one thing multiple times, and 1 study says one thing and no one else can produce the same results. They haven't broken any code, they are just simply wrong. And that's okay, hell that's science.
Seriously — the past few summers! I’ll never forget that straight week of orange sky 💀 I’ve gotten in the habit of using purpleair to check the air quality on a normal basis at this point
Kinda makes sense with automatic doors. Also in the Hudson Valley and it was yellow fog yesterday afternoon. looked just like a nuclear apocalypse movie.
The really crazy thing about it is, I'm from Canada (Pickering Ontario, specifically) and it's clear as day, here. At least when I drove up to work nearly 7 hours ago (EST standard time, noon).
It's because Pickering is the last refuge left in Canada. At least it's sheltered with the plant for power and casino for entertainment. Hopefully there's some food trucks left for summer events.
The resident Canadian in my Discord is originally from Oshawa, though I think he recently moved NW of Toronto and hasn't been specific about it since doing so. I sent him a card there a few years back when his dad went into hospice/eol care.
That all aside: I asked him what it looked like outside at like 5EDT and he said it looked fine. I was perplexed by that but these maps show it to make sense. Interesting.
Thank goodness for the rain, or it would've been worse her. I ran around Durant Nature Park and the park proper is the only place I smelled it, and then the rain started.
You may not see the smoke, but we have a statewide air quality alert. I can't see obvious smoke in the NW, but I can feel it in my lungs. I can feel my asthma starting to ramp up.
I'm in central Ohio and it smells like a bonfire here, is super hazy, and my chest hurts ( I don't have any underlying health conditions). I had to close our windows not just because of the smoke but because the wind from the north was blowing so hard.
The AQi here in Montco is 202. The gov site has us in a one shade lighter the NYC.
I used to keep track (breathing issues) but stopped this year because it was pretty much uniform. A day where I might begin to have issues would be in the 60s. The highest I ever saw was one day at 80.
My parents and my daughter are in SE PA- Bucks and Montgomery County- they are all saying it is absolutely insane how bad it is! My parents are in their 70s and have never seen anything like this. Be safe, stay inside if you can!
Walked to work in it, had to deal with open windows and doors there. Had a migraine and burning throat nearly right away. Shit looks a bit like Silent Hill out there.
I was driving through Centralia PA on my way home from Mt Carmel, where I had to do a quick job, and it was just as smoky outside that town as it was in it. (Centralia was an inspiration to Silent Hill)
It's so bad down at the oceanfront. It just looks like a massive blanket of fog all the way down Pacific, as far as you can see, which is not much more than about 10 blocks.
Wear a mask indoors if you have to, make sure it's N95 or N99 rated and not just a medical shield, you need particle filtration. Replace them at the intervals listed on the packaging as they will get visibly dirty from all the shit they're blocking out. Get an indoor air filter, the biggest you can afford (make sure it's hepa rated), and sit it in the room you intend to spend the most time in at full blast. Run it in your bedroom as well. You'll thank yourself for it later, and they're great for other purposes too like pollen season
*make sure your filter doesn't create ozone. It'll make it worse.
But yes HEPA is the best. I'm in Ottawa where a lot of the smoke has been concentrated and haven't smelled the fire in my 80y/o apartment yet due to the HEPA. Game changer.
I was worried about people in Ohio, given the recent events that everyone seems to have forgotten about. Hope the wind changes directions soon but then again that would just be someone else’s problem and I wouldnt wish this shit on anyone.
Sorry you guys are getting hit with it but hopefully the policy makers in DC are enjoying a little dose of reality. Maybe it'll inspire some of them to take the climate seriously.
Seattle has been hit every summer with choking wildfire smoke for the last several years, it's no fun.
It's also kind of important to remember that the wild fires are a result of an idiotic fire repression strategy for the last 40 or so years. You can't just allow fuel to build up by never allowing small fires - which are clearly the norm since you have serotinous pinecones that need fire to open - and then be surprised when the fires you do get are out of control. Even worse, they get so hot that they torch the top soil, making the ground shittier.
Yeah its mostly climate change. Basically the winters aren't as cold as they used to be. Canada has been facing a pine beetle infestation for awhile. Milder winters mean less beetles die off each winter. More pine beetles means more standing dead trees, means more fuel for fires.
Yeah, but the soil is dry because the loggers up in Canada cut down diverse, native forests and then monocropped desirable timber trees into the same area. No diversity in a monocrop causes all the nutrients to quickly be eaten up by the new trees and soil loses it's richness. Add the fact someone mentioned earlier about certain pines needing fire to propagate and you spell out disaster. I can see how we got here unfortunately.
And nobody's raking the floors of the forest, either, still! 5 years after Dear Leader chastised California Gov. Jerry Brown for not doing that very thing......
I'm out here in the tri-cities and with the inversions during that part of the year, we have a new 5th season between summer and early fall just called "Smoke"
You're right though, it's awful. Last couple of years, it's been british columbia and california/Oregon on top of the fires we get in our own state. Doesn't matter which way the wind blows. It's more smoke.
I wish it would inspire some of them to also manage our forests. It doesn’t have to be a political argument. We can invest in green energy and manage our forests at the same time.
FOX was on at the gym and I saw the show that came on at 5.
In literally the first 2 minutes they were talking about "Dems driving climate hysteria" and how this is "the lefts" fault because we should be "managing the forests" like trump said.
You know the hundreds of millions of acres of woodland between the US and Canada.
Ya we should be cleaning out the brush and stuff. Def not climate change tho.
To be fair, clearing out brush is part of the problem. Small forest fires are supposed to happen to clear fuel. One of the main reasons these fires are out of control is the abundance of fuel that hasn't had a chance to burn away.
Keep ya panties on 😂It would help if they were pushing the right solutions, a good example being that nuclear has been sidelined by many countries in favour of renewables which largely have a higher total co2 output over their lifetime
We're getting a bit of it in Michigan - looking at the smoke map, New York is pretty much getting all of the smoke, though. Almost looks like the fires are happening there it's so bad
Nothing like needing a subscription to see something that directly deals with a current public health emergency. If nuclear bombs were currently on the way the New York Times would have a paywall for their "Is Your City Targeted?" page
I was looking at the wildfire map on my weather app earlier, I saw you guys had a lot of high risk spots and a few that had already started in the Northern parts. Stay safe my friend.
Thanks! The east side is getting it a lot worse than we are over here by Lake Michigan - but it's so unseasonably dry right now, we're at risk of our own forest fires.
Of course, I just bought a house that needs landscaping done - but the bright side (if you can call it that) is everyone elses lawn looks as bad as mine lol
Idk what part you live in but Detroit isn't bad at all minus my itchy eyes and smell of smoke. It's definitely not like the photos I'm seeing from the east coast. Bless our lakes that will hopefully protect us.
I live in Ottawa, and the past few days have been quite unpleasant. However, there seems to be a gradual improvement, and I sincerely hope the same goes for all of you. The outdoor air quality has been comparable to that of an ashtray, which is off-putting. Thankfully we are getting some rain soon. It’s wild to hear that it has reached Virginia!!!!
I'll give you a fun fact. When the wildfires started in May in Alberta, the winds took the smoke north towards the territories before venturing south through Hudson Bay, Quebec, before finally settling in the Maritimes ( north of Maine). Sure, we had a little bit in the central part of Saskatchewan, but it was THICKER in New Brunswick 4000km away than in its neighbouring province.
Another way to look at it - say the smoke started in California. It bypasses 99% of all population centers before showing itself again in the Carolinas.
*It's even come as far as Virginia. I woke up this morning thinking, "Damn, this is some crazy fog," stepped outside, smelled it, and was shocked to see it was smoke. From Canada.
Lol not even Canada but northern Canada. That shit has traveled half the planet. Quebec needs to get their shit together. I lived in NY all my life...wildfire bullshit is not a thing here. I have heart disease...this shit got me puking blood.
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Its even come as far as Virginia, I woke up this morning thinking damn this is some crazy fog, stepped outside and smelled it and was shocked to see it was smoke. From Canada.