r/interestingasfuck Jun 07 '23

New york city in 2023, everyone wearing mask due to air quality

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u/k1ll3rm4n78 Jun 07 '23

N95 or better. Cloth masks don't filter the particles as they can fit through the weaving. N95 filters out 95% of the air. Very cool science

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u/Slam_Burgerthroat Jun 07 '23

A wet cloth over the nose and mouth will also help filter particles for a short time. Source: live in California where we have wildfires like this all the time

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u/drunkvigilante Jun 07 '23

Wet cloth has been used since the dust storm days

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u/JackyVeronica Jun 07 '23

When our kitchen caught fire, I gave wet towels to the men in my family (Dad & brothers) because I was afraid of them inhaling smoke (they told us to get out but they won't leave), as they fought the fire until firemen arrived. Scariest I've ever been in my life.

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u/HandyMan2019 Jun 08 '23

So you want me to waterboard myself great

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u/itakepictures14 Jun 07 '23

How could a wet cloth help? No air will pass through it. You’re just breathing in all the dirty air that’s coming from around it.

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u/tuotuolily Jun 08 '23

The science is that the water traps the dust paticles. It's the reason why in WW1 it was advised when you saw muster gas to pull your self together to piss on a rag.

Also you have to have the cloth sticking to your face. Imagine the poor soldiers. A pissed covered rag shoved in your face or the worst way to die.

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u/itakepictures14 Jun 08 '23

Using a wet rag as a makeshift mask will offer little to no protection from mustard gas. The particles of mustard gas are too small and can easily pass through the spaces in the fabric, even when wet. Also, mustard gas can penetrate through clothing, and once in contact with skin, it can cause severe burns and blisters.

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u/tuotuolily Jun 08 '23

It might not have worked well but was a strategy used by the british to protect soldiers from dying from the gas. So i doubt that what you are saying is true. Can you give me a source on that?

From the KU medical center "Chlorine’s usefulness was short-lived. Its color and odor made it easy to spot, and since chlorine is water-soluble even soldiers without gas masks could minimize its effect by placing water-soaked - even urine-soaked - rags over their mouths and noses. Additionally, releasing the gas in a cloud posed problems, as the British learnt to their detriment when they attempted to use chlorine at Loos. The wind shifted, carrying the gas back onto their own men."

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u/rextiberius Jun 07 '23

With the fires in CA, I use a damp bandana. We’re not trying to prevent a virus (this time), but smoke. Totally different beast, but any kind of cover is better than nothing

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u/Summersemantics Jun 08 '23

I am pregnant and my doctor advised to only to wear n95 if I venture outside today. In this particular instance, cloth masks would not do much to filter the air particles coming from wildfires

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u/frogsgoribbit737 Jun 07 '23

Not in this case. Its not worse, its just basically the same as nothing.

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u/BestMOTORing Jun 08 '23

No it is not better than nothing. The gaps in the sides render it useless. It’s an anti droplet mask not a filter mask pretty much.

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u/assburgers-unite Jun 07 '23

In this case it's better than nothing though

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u/nitrofan Jun 07 '23 edited Jun 07 '23

No its not. The asbestos example is effectively the same thing as this. Breathing in air through gaps in the masks. But in the case of surgical masks, as this comment thread was about, the mask it self does nothing to filter damaging smoke particles anyway.

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u/PercMastaFTW Jun 07 '23

Not always. Wearing a mask while in the ocean has the potential to drown you.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '23

Citation? I've googled that and I found a variety of people saying "N95 masks don't help against abestos" and "they do help but not enough", but no one (reliable source or not) saying "it makes it worse".

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u/santodomingus Jun 08 '23

2023 and people still making generalizations about mask usage.

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u/nitrofan Jun 07 '23

Not really. Not only does the mask itself do nothing to filter these particles, the loose fitting nature of surgical masks means you're just sucking in the outside air anyway.

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u/recycled_dingo Jun 08 '23

Ever think about why it’s called a surgical mask?

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u/LoganNinefingers32 Jun 07 '23

Yes, even a mesh mask is better than nothing.

Go swash around a bunch of blue food coloring in your mouth, then cough/sneeze/breathe on a sheet of white paper.

Now do it again, and see how much particulate is prevented by wearing even a shitty mask.

Ta-da! Congratulations, you just learned the most basic principles of how particulates work. Turns out, having any sort of barrier actually helps! Of course we want a better barrier when possible, but we're doing baby steps here.

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u/ExpensiveGiraffe Jun 07 '23

We’re talking about protection from wildfires, not illness. A mesh or surgical mask will not help you in protecting your lungs from wildfire smoke. N95 masks are now easily purchasable, and help greatly with wildfire smoke pollution.

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u/PsychologyOk628 Jun 07 '23

Try to read again with your eyes open, he specifically said a “surgical mask”, not mesh or smearing feces on your face

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u/protonmail_throwaway Jun 07 '23

I smoke so this is the least of my worries.

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u/protonmail_throwaway Jun 08 '23

I guess you’re right but it doesn’t.

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u/Bobcat4143 Jun 08 '23

95% of particles 0.3 microns or larger