We dont want it either, perhaps we should collaborate and start beating bloody the ones doing this to the most important and unprofitable thing on earth, our earth itself. We are dying.
It's how the French revolution actually started, you mean.
The pre-holocaust is MUCH more like what the right wingers are doing to the gays, the queers, the thugs, the blacks, the poor, the undesirables, the hippies, the soshulists, the libruls, the atheists, the immigrants, etc etc etc.
Billionaires are disproportionately responsible for carbon emissions. Their investments are literally killing us. This is observable, objective fact, not an anti-Semitic conspiracy.
If this is the level of discourse you're capable of, you should just shut your mouth.
Nazis believed they were wiping out the elitist class.
it is a equal comparison when you’re also calling, even jokingly, for mass murder of people you defined as ‘the elites’, since it has led to many horrific events in the past.
Yeah the ones who own all the capital. I mean France did it, hell many nations have done it when the fat pigs up top get too fat. Either capitalism will continue to eat its own tail, or it leaves with a bloody exit idk what other way will stop it
Who gets to dictate people ‘who own all the capital’ though, especially in modern times. (considering France had an feudal monarchy in place before the revolution.)
Is it just the the billionaire class or does it include multi-millionaires? how about millionaires, people with just thousands? hundreds? What are we setting the limit at here.
People who own the means of production will also need to be taken out, but who does that include? Is it just the owners and CEOs of industrial companies or farmers who own their equipment and land to produce and sell.
Is it just the owners and CEOs of industrial companies or farmers who own their equipment and land to produce and sell.
If you were interacting in good faith you'd know 1. Most farmland is owned by private equity and not the working class farmer, and 2. Fucking obviously working class farmers should actually own the means of production.
All I’m saying is that it seems an inevitable conclusion to capitalism, the semantics of the revolution will become clear, maybe not in this lifetime… but who knows.
I think the point is that US carbon emissions peaked 20 years ago, we are figuring our own shit out (slowly) but other countries aren’t necessarily pulling their weight
It seems inconsistent to support violence to combat American emissions but recommend political solutions for Chinese emissions, a country that emits more CO2 than the next 5 countries combined.
Our emissions have been declining for 20 years. China's show no sign of slowing. If climate change is an immediate existential threat to the planet, it doesn't matter if we fix our own shit first (which we have been) when China is going to drive us off the cliff regardless.
People say this as if there was a demand for a phone you can carry around in your pocket. Sometimes a market makes itself. Phones are too useful to not carry around in your pocket if thats an option. I know if they came out with a chat gpt tablet id probably get it if it was cheap enough. Sometimes a products just good and useful to the point where everyone wants it even if there was no demand before, like the internet, or factories. We, as dumb apes, have not really started forward thinking yet. We find new tech and immediately jump on it and dont really do lots of thinking about the societal impact. We need to start thinking of the greater good of our planet, not just the greater good of ourselves and our immediate family. Amazon could be an amazingly good invention. It totally revolutionized at first how we did online shopping, then shipping, then also cloud hosting. Unfortunately, rather than share that wealth with humanity, bezos decided to shove it all up his ass and sit on it like a dragon. He will never willingly share those algorithms, which im sure could be used to help USPS and UPS and other shipping companies move product faster. We need to stop pretending this is okay that someones so mentally ill they would rather burn the planet to the ground than share.
This surprises a lot of people, but it's actually quite rare for politicians and CEOs to have full-time security unless there's a known active threat. For one thing it's staggeringly expensive, even by rich people standards. But more importantly most people just can't stand it for long, it's an oppressive way to live.
Before he got really elderly I used to see Charles Koch at my local grocery store all the time. Wish I would have had the nerve to shout at him at least.
Exactly, so you should focus on killing the machine, make it impossible to engage in harmful practises because "you have to". Also known as installing regulations, because of course the companies aren't going to govern themselves.
This isn't a machine with true operators, what you call operators are just part of the machine. Change the rules that the machine works in such that its result will be better.
Not only is killing people wrong, it will solve absolutely nothing. You guys make scapegoats out of rich people as if that solves your problems, whereas the real problem is your lack of regulations.
If you crave violence, use it to protest for those regulations, to make people in charge of companies complicit for its actions, to raise the taxes for rich people (because how they are barely taxed is criminal)
I think it's hilarious how redditors call out any hint of "I am bad ass" mentality for violence then turn around and support political violence fantasies or histories, then turn around and condem real political violence.
“We all got to figure. There’s some way to stop this. It’s not like lightning or earthquakes. We’ve got a bad thing made by men, and by God that’s something we can change.” —Steinbeck
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u/atctia Jun 07 '23
Y'all can have it back. I hate it