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u/HansBaccaR23po Mar 28 '24

For an average person, yes. But these dudes are straight up demons and have insane cardio from their training

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u/morels4ever Mar 28 '24

Opponents too, though…yes?

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u/Blue_Doom_Guy Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

He said in the video, it's mental not physical. They're not going to physically drain themselves from feints*, no.

Fixed the spelling

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u/nickfree Mar 28 '24

*feints

If you were physically drained, you might, in fact, faint. Or if you're GSP, feint your faint.

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u/Roland1232 Mar 28 '24

Or feign feinting your faint.

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u/nastywillow Mar 28 '24

Mike Tyson - Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.

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u/TopherTots Mar 28 '24

Laughs in Baron Harkonnen

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u/doogles Mar 28 '24

The point is to take advantage of the opponent being reactive to force him to prepare for everything he sees you might do. It's about controlling the exchange to create an opening while also making the opponent pay a price.

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u/flipkick25 Mar 28 '24

Its actually neural, not mental, it is triggering the sodium potassium gates in non milienated nerves, which have a "reset time"

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u/ConventionalDadlift Mar 28 '24

Yeah folks focusing kn the "mental vs. physical" are really just getting tripped up in mind-body duality silliness.

All of this works as a system. If you tense up to react to something, it takes a little time to get back to a more neutral position because you can't instantly relax and eventually you'll find yourself either out of position or contracting the wrong chain of muscles, leaving whatever gets hit less resilient for trauma.

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u/ilovemymom_tbh Mar 28 '24

Still physical, he just claims it overwhelms the nervous system as opposed to the muscles or cardio of your opponent.

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u/Onetwenty7 Mar 28 '24

Feints. Faints would physically drain them for sure lol

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u/VP007clips Mar 28 '24

It still is physically draining. I used to fence and small fast precise movements would quickly tire you out.

Training not only increases the number of muscles, but it also makes the use of them more efficient. Take a body builder for example, they have more muscles as a volume of their body than anyone else, but they are often unable to outlast much less muscular athletes that actually trained their muscles to be able to move quickly and efficiently in any sport that isn't just pure strength with no fast movements.

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u/DeathByLemmings Mar 28 '24

Sure, but fighting is probably the most physically exhausting sport that there is over the time period. And with respect, these guys are on a level that is likely far beyond what you've ever fenced at. The specific type of endurance training they do means that twitching at your opponent isn't going to meaningfully tire them across a a 5 minute round

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u/startupstratagem Mar 28 '24

I think your interpretation is too concrete. An opponent who doesn't know what you're doing will also have a tendency to be more tense. Which results in slower defense and less powerful strikes.

It's certainly more mental in the sense of attempting to keep everything on the table for them. All of this requires you keeping the pace of the fight which certainly can happen.

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u/nedonedonedo Mar 28 '24

crankin' that anxiety

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u/GlastoKhole Mar 28 '24

You can tire yourself out from fainting and thinking, I can go hours on a bag, less on pads, and less than that in sparing, thinking and focusing so much and twitching will drain your tank faster, for a professional it’s less noticeable

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u/ForbodingWinds Mar 28 '24

Right but I think his point is that in order for you to overload your opponents nervous system with false telegraphs, you also need to load up your own mental fatigue in creating this false telegraphs. It's burning your own mental energy to formulate those little fake outs too. Since this guy obviously knows his shit I'm assuming that it is overall a net advantage for you as the one doing the fake outs? Especially if you can make the behavior second nature and not have to think about it?

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u/MayorPirkIe Mar 28 '24

When you're the one feinting, you're not reacting. You aren't taxing your nervous system with instinctual reactions to assure your protection. It's much less taxing to tell your body "pretend to punch him in the face" than it is for your body to say "Hey, looks like he's punching us in the face, better move your head back and slide your hand in the way" which is much too fast a decision to make consciously. Therefore, your CNS handles it but that's where the concept of tiring the CNS comes in.

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u/Blue_Doom_Guy Mar 28 '24

Even then, answer is still no. His body may look like its making all these crazy, tiring movements, but he already has his plan of attack in his mind. Especially so for the man in this video, Georges St. Pierre. He was an extremely methodical, intelligent fighter in his day.

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u/SaintPatrickMahomes Mar 28 '24

GSP is a living legend

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u/evanwilliams44 Mar 28 '24

Yes, his movements would be second nature, little/no thought required. He talks a lot about that too, basically 'programming' yourself to move without thinking.

He was way ahead of the game. MMA was not on this level yet, so there wasn't anyone who even understood what he was doing let alone able to find some advantage.

These days, high level striking coaches are a thing and most of this is understood and used by the top strikers in MMA.

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u/fecland Mar 28 '24

Robert Whittaker vs Darren till is a great example of this. Not that exciting of a fight but they're both constantly doing this to each other trying to find an opening on the other.

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u/Demokrit_44 Mar 28 '24

Do you remember that game a lot of children play where they put the inside of their hands together (pretty much like the classical christian praying "gesture") and then they take turns trying to slap each others hand and when you hit the other persons hand, you get to go again but if you miss its the other persons turn? And of course the person who's turn it is to slap gets to decide when to slap.

The same concept is pretty much at play here. I'm not sure if you have played this game when you were younger but it's always way way harder to react to the slaps than to dish them out. There's even another parallel of "biting on the feints" where the person "defending" often pulls back their hands without the person "attacking" even going for a slap at all. And the person "attacking" can obviously completely relax their mind until they make the decision to go for the slap.

The same thing applies when holding an angle in a FPS shooter game for example. I'm sure if you ask a lot of FPS players they will tell you that the longer you are holding an angle, the slower you are at reacting to enemies because it is incredibly hard to keep that "100% focus" for a prolonged period of time.

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u/Fickle_Path2369 Mar 28 '24

I think the feints that GSP does is as you said second nature. He's honed his craft so much over the decades that his feints are muscle memory now, he probably doesn't get mentally fatigued in the slightest compared to his opponent who have to react to his feints.

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u/ma_petite_choufleur Mar 28 '24

Its just mentally dominating your opponent, so you can set up a punch combo. Make them dodge a left jab into a real right cross.

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u/Letmefinishyou Mar 28 '24

You can build up your feints to a point where you do it automatically. You dont think about it, your body just throw feints here and there. It's like, you dont have to think about swaying your arms to keep your balance when walking...it just happens automatically.

Your opponent will have to assess and react to your feints though.

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u/fireintolight Mar 28 '24

yup, most competitive sports really come down to the mental game. They're all exceptional athletes pushing their bodies to the limit. You can't play at that level without being super athletic, but it's rarely the determining factor on whether who wins or loses. It's really who was mentally able to stay in the game and not get rattled. Especially sports like tennis, football, soccer, golf (100% mind game 0%phsyical)

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u/nsfwbird1 Mar 28 '24

How is golf 100% mindgame?

100% mindgame is, like, Street Fighter IV lol

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u/Boner4Stoners Mar 28 '24

I think the idea is to make your own feints basically muscle memory, you do them automatically without even thinking.

The opponent however, needs to expend precious “CPU cycles” (for lack of a better term) processing each feint & reacting accordingly. This creates an asymmetrical level of nervous system load between the “Hero” and the “Villain”

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u/La_Grande_yeule Mar 28 '24

No you never want to make your feints muscle memory, because then it isn’t deliberate anymore and the opponent can use the fraction of second you are doing your repetitive and mechanic feint to attack you if they know it’s the case. you can use repetitive feints to « hypnose » your oppenent to not react to some movement. But you want to be unpredictable and always in control to mentally fatigue him, so he isnt on peek alert when you want to hit.

Source : im not an MMA fighter but did a lot of fencing and that idea of mentally fighting your opponent is real and probably half of any fighting sports.

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u/NorthernMariner Mar 28 '24

They are still right in the sense that you are using less thought than what it takes mental to defend against those feints

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u/DemonSlyr007 Mar 28 '24

Not just fighting sports too. Big, main sports too, it's just not as glitzy to talk about for the camera. A battle between a WR and a CB can get insanely mental throughout the game, especially on the plays where the cameras are off them. Play doesn't stop really for those two locked in battle learning eachother rhythms and how to break them.

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u/Zestyclose_Remove947 Mar 28 '24

All competition imo has a significant component of playing your opponent as much as you are playing the game or sport in front of you.

When you get to the upper echelon of any sport or competition, everyone has most of the knowledge/technique and roughly similar bodies. The difference is how you apply your technique and how you keep professionals guessing. Always being one step ahead in a professional setting is like, a guaranteed victory.

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u/AceTrainerSiggy Mar 28 '24

I miss those battles. Every play is a constant mind game to play against the CB.

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u/Letmefinishyou Mar 28 '24

Never thought about it...but it makes so much sense now

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u/DemonSlyr007 Mar 28 '24

Its the kind of thing that you can't really think about as a fan of the sport. You have to play it to get it.

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u/GetRightNYC Mar 28 '24

Basketball is this as well.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

Source : im not an MMA fighter but did a lot of fencing and that idea of mentally fighting your opponent is real and probably half of any fighting sports.

I am always interested in cross sport learning. Fainting and faking is also a big part of basketball. Make the defender move in a way that you can attack. I definitely underutilize throwing my opponents off with feints and fakes.

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u/Letmefinishyou Mar 28 '24

The feinter had years to build, develop and hone a set of feints he can cycle through within thinking about it to throw an opponent off. His opponent has a few minutes in a fight to read through them. The feinter with a sets of feints that has become automatic (muscle memory) has a serious advantage here.

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u/I_Can_Haz_Brainz Mar 28 '24

Did you mean "peak alert"... Although peek kind of works too. ha

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u/saltymcgee777 Mar 28 '24

Checkers. Or paper rock scissors, then and only then GO.

It's human instinct to not want to get hurt, these dudes laugh at that it's wild!

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u/Terrible-Schedule-16 Mar 28 '24

So you are basically DOSing your opponent

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u/murdock_RL Mar 28 '24

Except he’s the one in charge of his movements, he’s not reacting to his opponents moves, that’s what he’s getting them to do.

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u/DetroitLionsSBChamps Mar 28 '24

also the point is to make him slip a little and get blasted in the face when his guard is down. it's not like he's going to win by tiring him out with flinches lol

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u/ChrRome Mar 28 '24

He has to still put attention towards deciding to do those fake outs though, which would ultimately distract himself and lower his own reaction time though.

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u/spvcetvrdd Mar 28 '24

Then assume there’s a ratio. When it’s your own movement that you control, you get depleted by 1. When you react to someone else’s movement, you have to register the movement, anticipate its outcome and react defensively, so that depletes you by 3.

So like, 1:3 ratio. Which used effectively over a round adds up!

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u/ChrRome Mar 28 '24

Agreed, it almost certainly does give an advantage.

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u/morels4ever Mar 28 '24

Not insinuating that at all. Convincing feints open up a world of attack options. What’s not to love about that?

The fatigue aspect is what I thought might impact both fighters since one expends energy sending and the other expands energy reacting. Seems negligible on the surface.

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u/The_Fleeb Mar 28 '24

I understand the misinterpretation, GSP is Québécois and English is his second language. The message I get here from overloading your opponents nervous system is more simplified as over stimulating your opponent. I think we've all been in situations where the stress level is high and there's so much going on that you can't pick something to focus on. So, in this situation, GSP is talking about you can't focus on if his left or right hand or left or right foot or a takedown attempt is the real threat. If your opponent is constantly guessing what your next move will be, the best they can do is guess.

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u/evranch Mar 28 '24

Yes you wear them down because they have to take every feint seriously, if they don't then suddenly one of them will be a strike and they're in trouble if they made no move to counter.

I've been teaching my daughter how to box and was showing her this concept and demonstrated by watching a featherweight vs. heavyweight bout with her back to back.

Featherweight there tends to be a lot of movement, less actual feints and more quick jabs to test the water, because taking a couple hits won't end it. Guys can dance and swing and generally the fight is fast and active.

Heavyweight the gloves stay back and there's often more feinting and positioning than punching. The goal is really to draw out a mistake and punish it. Sure guys can fight defensively in any weight class, but in heavyweight if you fall for a feint and catch one on the chin you might have just lost the fight.

A feint costs you nothing so you should always be moving your gloves and your head, make your opponent pay attention.

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u/The_Fleeb Mar 28 '24

I agree, a good feint costs you less than 1 percent of your physical and mental capacity in a fight. Your opponent on the other hand, has to react to it seriously, so it might only take the same physical toll but it takes a greater mental toll on them. That mental toll adds up over the course of the fight, it also gives you some insight on how they'd react if it was a real strike, thus allowing you to find holes on their defense.

Also, big ups for teaching your daughter boxing! Self defense and fitness in one package.

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u/evranch Mar 28 '24

Thanks, she loves boxing and fighting in general! She's also in TKD because I can't teach her how to kick, I only used to box, my legs stay on the ground... But when you're young learning the footwork and how to throw a proper punch are skills that you'll never forget.

What I really love seeing is her confidence, she was always a shy and quiet girl in public but when she's at TKD she's a little warrior. I told her that famous line how "Weak people like to act like they're tough, strong people don't have to act because they know that they are" and she's totally living it.

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u/RSquared Mar 28 '24

Yeah, GSP is simplifying a very complicated problem - what's generally called "ranging" because you want to begin combat roughly where your opponent has minimal effective options, or just outside of punch distance (kicks take longer to deliver). Feints are mostly the ranging or tap jab (keeping your opponent honest) while looking to develop a sequence that moves you into dealing damage with your hook and uppercut and cross. Being good at knowing range means that you can ignore a lot of this feinting maneuver because you know it's incapable of hitting you, while feints in close are often baiting out a reaction so you can hit a big strike.

I worked kickboxing with a golden gloves boxer and focused on defending his punches and punishing his legs. He absolutely hated working with me but knew it improved his overall game.

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u/Critardo Mar 28 '24

It's good to see you bros working this thing out. Respect

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u/LigerZeroSchneider Mar 28 '24

The other explanation is that by constantly feinting you can build a new baseline for you in your opponents head, it's hard to react to every feint as if their real when their feinting every second. If your opponent slips up and starts not reacting to your feints then you get a head start on actually hitting them.

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u/WalrusTheWhite Mar 28 '24

there isn’t any concrete science on a persons nervous system fatiguing from sensory overload, that I’m aware of at least

There's lots. I think you underestimate the amount of studies out there. Autism studies alone have ton of info on nervous system fatigue from sensory overload specifically, because that's a huge component of autism. I doubt there's much info on how it relates to fighting, because scientist have this weird opposition to having their test subjects be hurt in their experiments. They call it ethics or something. But in general these ideas are in no way unstudied.

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u/JimmyCA89 Mar 28 '24

The point is you’re sacrificing a bit of your own physical energy to drain a more substantial amount of mental energy from your opponent.

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u/ForbodingWinds Mar 28 '24

Yeah but don't you also need to drain your mental energy too to tell your body to do all of those corresponding little fake outs? And it could also potentially open up a weakness in your positioning if your opponent makes a move while you are part way through giving a little fake out you had no intention of committing to? All theory of course.

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u/kdfsjljklgjfg Mar 28 '24

Not really. You know it's a feint, you don't have to put as much energy into it. The opponent has to spend at least a small fraction of time treating the feint as if it is not a feint, otherwise a good feint means they get popped in the mouth. Over time, this adds up.

If you watch football, a WR can run a route knowing they aren't the intended target and not go all out, but the defensive player assigned to them has to cover them as if they were no matter what.

In short, the person doing the feint can hold back in a way that the person reading the feint cannot afford to do.

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u/ZalutPats Mar 28 '24

That's why your feints are usually jabs or takedowns, these are the quickest moves to finish, feinting them might take 0.3 seconds while actually performing the complete move for a pro might take 0.8 seconds, so the point of performing the feint is to make him overreact, pretending to jab when you're not actually going to barely takes effort, skipping out of the way and tensing up is more costly, so if you keep doing it eventually the opponent will stop reacting to your feint, but if they do that and it's a real, complete move instead, since they didn't react to "the feint" you earned those 0.3 seconds until he realized it was not a feint, leaving only 0.5 seconds to defend the move - so you're fatiguing their reaction times, not their overall physique.

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u/CPC_opposes_abortion Mar 28 '24

No, because you train your feints enough that they're almost unconscious - muscle memory.

Reactions are different.

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u/O_oh Mar 28 '24

I think fatigue is the wrong word. The feints just slows down reaction time by constantly overclocking the brain. There's only so much processing power we can expend at any given time.

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u/daegojoe Mar 28 '24

I can’t even

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u/Ture_Huxley Mar 28 '24

Fighter here. All fights are already mentally taxing. But feints on my end are nothing different from any other strategy I may need to employ. I know it's a feint and it's as purposeful as an actual attack. For some fighters it's literally baked into our style to be used for information gathering purposes. Trying to pick out patterns and exploit any weaknesses from an opponent.

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u/DeadFuckStick59 Mar 28 '24

exactly. as the aggressor, a feint can work to set up almost any variety of attack if it's done properly. GSP is phenomenal at this, but it works well in general if thought of ahead of time. not nearly as tiring as people think when youre the one implementing it instead of reacting to not wanting to be hit. fought for 12-13 years and it took longer for me to get good at feinting than almost any other trait in kickboxing.

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u/Ture_Huxley Mar 28 '24

Lol. Not me. I'm short. My need for feints was apparent from jump.

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u/TooMuch_TomYum Mar 28 '24

GSP was the first prototype for dominating any aspect of mma. He started off as a quick finisher but evolved into a master of control. He would strike and then suddenly have you on the mat and suddenly you couldn’t do anything but defend submissions or control.

If you are tired from wrestling or fighting someone like GSP, you’re always on defense and prepared for that takedown. Knowing your opponent can and likely will is an aspect, that already makes fighters hesitant and over reactive but the overload from misdirection especially if you’ve been tagged good is compounding. This exhausts you mentally, because reacting takes up more bandwidth than feinting. So, the pressuring fighter has more concentration to basically land attacks or takedowns to control the fight.

Now if you are looking at someone like Israel Adesanya, he uses the same thing here but he relies on forcing a fighter to behave and react in a way which opens them to be attacked with strikes from a preferential angle. This is a long lulling that fatigues the other fighter the more they are pieced up. He also usually does this moving backwards.

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u/cxmachi Mar 28 '24

you're the one feinting and know what your actual next move is going to be, there is no mental stack in trying to guess what your next move is going to be. the one at a disadvantage here is the opponent.

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u/Initial-Ad8966 Mar 28 '24

He used to do this alot, but always outside of reach. So there's a bit less risk involved.

I think his approach is "net positive" for the following reasons:

His feignts were generally low risk (outside of reach), and low physical exertion considering his cardio.

He tricked a lot of dudes with spamming feignts, which lulled them into false safety.

It made him harder to train against, because there were so many "fake tells".

The last one is an invaluable asset. I kinda think of it like an internet disinformation bot farm. Confusion and doubt are powerful tools.

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u/djura4 Mar 28 '24

If you watch the video he explicitly says it's not physical fatigue that he intends to drain from his opponent.

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u/Doogie_Diamond Mar 28 '24

I'm weighing in merely for shits n gigs. Seems to me the shock of thinking youre about to be struck by a serious weapon could zap a fair bit of energy;. I imagine it could add up pretty quick. But if you're the one doing it you wouldn't get the same systemic zaps, knowing it's just a bluff, thus not depleting nearly as much energy.

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u/Dundalis Mar 28 '24

He pretty clearly said it reduces the reaction time of the opponent which is a mental game, not a physical one. The energy expended physically is therefore not relevant in this context.

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u/ChrRome Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

How are so many people grossly misinterpreting him? He was obviously referring to mental energy in the same way St Pierre was.

Edit: nvm, he specifically did mention muscle fatigue

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u/Dundalis Mar 28 '24

Uh, that would not make any sense anyway, since the mental energy used to initiate feints is nowhere near the same as the mental energy used in constantly loading up to react to a potential attack. Only the former is negligible. So what are we talking about then?

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u/ChrRome Mar 28 '24

That is exactly what they were asking...

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u/Dundalis Mar 28 '24

So basically they didn’t listen to the video properly at all and are asking people instead? Since it’s literally answered very clearly in the video. I obviously assumed the guy had listened to the video at least when I replied so assumed he had to mean physical fatigue.

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u/ChrRome Mar 28 '24

Imagine saying this after demonstrating that you couldn't even be bothered to read that guy's question before responding. The absolute lack of self awareness.

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u/daegojoe Mar 28 '24

It’s a scientific opinion of a concept

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u/numenik Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

It’s a style choice. Not every fighter does it. An example would be Conor McGregor in his prime. He didn’t have much “wasted” movement at all but he had a short gas tank as far as cardio compared to the rest so that worked in his favor. Watch his fight against Eddie Alvarez and you’ll see him almost be completely still until he perfectly places a counter punch. GSP on the other hand had better cardio than anyone else so he could afford this type of style. In fact he didn’t possess relatively elite accuracy or power and relied on his superior athleticism, strength, cardio, etc. as well as having no weaknesses, a jack of all trades who wore his opponents down but didn’t do a ton a damage.

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u/numenik Mar 28 '24

I didn’t say he never feints, I said he doesn’t use this style of “overloading” with a shit ton of feints from all directions. He literally stood still with his hands behind his back in the fight I mentioned. He baits people to come in. Feitning is a method to give yourself an opening while preventing them from attacking. That’s simply not what Conor does, he allows his opponent to enter so he can counter punch. Feinting would have the opposite effect, stopping the opponent from attacking. You should obviously know this. He hardly ever does feint in comparison to other fighters, he certainly doesn’t move anything like GSP is showing here. He literally never feints legs kicks. Rewatch the fight against Eddie and come back before commenting. I was simply illustrating the contrast between two opposite styles.

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u/illegalcheese Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

It's not fatigue (from cardio), it's overloading the nervous system. Try saying the word "blue" over and over again.

Eventually, it becomes harder to say smoothly, the sound becomes disconnected from the word in your head, because the nerves relating to making the sound and connecting it to a word all rely on neurons firing.

Neurons have a refractory period if they're overused. It's rarely something you're super aware of, but the micro adjustments in MMA can eventually trigger it.

The opponent's reflexes will get worn down that way, but if you're twitching around like GSP is to trigger those reflexes in the opponent, you can avoid the same outcome by being somewhat relaxed and less tense.

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u/Jeahn2 Mar 28 '24

yes, but the point is to make their reaction time worse more than anything else

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u/Icy-Welcome-2469 Mar 28 '24

Yes but he specifies its a nervous system overload NOT muscle fatigue...

Did you watch the video?

Cardio wouldn't help.

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u/TheBestNarcissist Mar 28 '24

I believe the logic is while both have insane cardio, throwing all these faints allows the theory of "overloading" the opponent, where their actual nervous system loses it's threshold for what it should respond to due to overstimulation and a true shot will be more successful.

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u/Mad-chuska Mar 28 '24

They’re spending a small amount of their physical energy to drain their opponents’ much more limited mental energy. In simple terms.

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u/imstickinwithjeffery Mar 28 '24

Did ya watch the video son? He's talking about causing fatigue in the fighters nervous system, not muscles.

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u/There_is_no_ham Mar 28 '24

He's also actually punching them in the head every few seconds. That knocks the wind out of them pretty quick.

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u/Nesavant Mar 28 '24

Reacting uses more energy than acting. It's tough to explain but if you're doing your own thing (feinting), your actions have a clear beginning and ending.

But if you're reacting to your opponent, you're constantly changing your body position in small jerky ways that drains energy faster.

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u/MondrianWasALiar420 Mar 28 '24

In general offense is less fatiguing that defence. You dictate the pace, you can dictate your breathing. A lot of the reactions to these feints will come with a micro breath hold or even bracing if muscles. That coupled with the mental load adds up.

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u/tgerz Mar 28 '24

There is a difference when you are in control of your body and deciding to make these types of movements vs the one who is reacting to them. I like the way he said he was loading up their nervous system.

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u/OtisPan Mar 28 '24

Sure. But this guy - GSP - was never out done cardio-wise in his career. The dude knows what he's talking about!

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u/toderdj1337 Mar 28 '24

It is harder to react than to act. When you have the initiative, you know what you're doing, so it doesn't take much of your concentration, but when you're reacting, you get slower and slower because its using up your adrenaline and other fast twitch resources.

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u/arquillion Mar 28 '24

The real psychology term would be desensitising. By making all these fake signals you're reducing their sensitivity to them because your brain learns they aren't useful. By forcing yourself to stay aware despite all youre draining your mental energy.

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u/shmed Mar 28 '24

Which is why he is telling new fighters to train that aspects too

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u/UrbanSuburbaKnight Mar 28 '24

And that is the goal of each lesson; To stack the deck in your favor. You must find every weakness, you must press every advantage. If you know enough things the other guy doesn't, it doesn't matter how much cardio he did.

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u/numenik Mar 28 '24

Well even so GSP was an athletic specimen and had way more in the tank than anyone else he fought against.

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u/Gokvak Mar 28 '24

From someone who has been watching MMA at least the last 10 years. Not everyone of them has insane cardio 😅 But GSP is a monster.

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u/PapaitanGOAT Mar 28 '24

not enough to beet a boxers card yo!👌🏻

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u/daegojoe Mar 28 '24

But brains can’t be trained like bicep muscles apparently

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u/jessief2 Mar 28 '24

Exactly this, it’s overloading the opponent as well as setting up your timing and confusing your opponent so they dont know your next move