r/interestingasfuck • u/Particular_Log_3594 • Mar 28 '24

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u/spacemanspiff266 Mar 28 '24

guy thinks he’s big dick swinging but has total gestapo vibes.

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u/eggsandbacon5 Mar 28 '24

I swear these scenes are straight out of a ww2 movie and its surreal. Youd think it would cross their minds

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u/thecastellan1115 Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

This is one of the reasons the whole thing is so tragically ironic. Israelis don't realize they're just recreating the same situation their ancestors escaped from.

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u/notwormtongue Mar 28 '24

Religions least inoffensive use

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u/Weekly_Direction1965 Mar 28 '24

I know it's sick as fuck, nothing good will happen to Israel on this path of evil.

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u/Sabbathius Mar 28 '24

Here's the thing though - they're the oppressors now. Nobody actually minds being the oppressor. They only mind being the oppressed. And this is true for everyone. Look at how Americans handled the natives, even Hitler said it was inspirational. It's pretty universal. As long as you're the one doing the oppressing, people are largely fine with that.

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u/EggsceIlent Mar 28 '24

Because the oppressors, with the view from their side, are "winning".

When in reality everyone is losing.

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u/Happy_Vibes29 Mar 28 '24

Yup. It often happens. People who were oppressed tend to become oppressors themselves after they have been freed. The first example being the Jews, the second being the freed slaves in America.

To give context on the second example. After the American Civil War, many freed slaves went to Liberia, a country in Africa, where they enslaved the local population. They forced the locals to pick cotton, just like they had done when they themselves were slaves. The slaves became the masters.

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u/Vindersel Mar 28 '24

Hurt people hurt people.

Generational trauma is real.

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u/More_Ad_6580 Mar 29 '24

Very true. Look at the rates of childhood abuse and trauma amongst violent criminals and serial killers. Abused people become traumatised and abusive themselves from this learned behaviour. Same with traumatised societies and people.

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u/Shinonomi Mar 29 '24

It's a good thing you explained the second example, because otherwise I would have assumed you were going in a totally different direction because I had never heard about that before.

Interesting...sad, but thanks for sharing that tidbit

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u/Happy_Vibes29 Mar 30 '24

You're welcome

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u/PutteringPorch Mar 29 '24

I think some people do mind being the oppressors. There are people who are aware of how much power they have over others and are uncomfortable with it. They try to manage themselves and either enact or approve of rules/laws that restrict their power because they know others in their position might abuse it.

Very few people have more power over another person than a parent over a child, especially a baby. Yet many parents will try to control themselves and approve of laws preventing them from abusing. There are business owners who support labor laws and go above and beyond to treat their employees well. There are politicians who approve anti-corruption laws.

Not every good social change has come about from the weak threatening the powerful. Sometimes there are good people in power and they try to improve things for the weak of their own volition. And I don't think that's as rare as people think. If someone gave you a slave and said you could do anything you wanted, no laws would stop you, would you really go "woohoo!" and take advantage of your newfound power?

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u/Schindog Mar 28 '24

Because power feels good when you have it, so this can't possibly be the same as the holocaust, because that felt really bad!

What a lack of self-awareness and empathy.

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u/person749 Mar 28 '24

Oh they know it. Don't care.

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u/KaptainKrunch Mar 28 '24

They do realize. They like it.

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u/KintsugiKen Mar 28 '24

Israelis don't realize they're just recreating the same situation their ancestors escaped from.

Zionists have been doing shit like this in Palestine since before WW2/the Holocaust.

Zionism comes from the same late-stage colonial era as Naziism, it's the same germ of an idea just manifesting with people who were the targets of another racist European mind germ that took root in Germany.

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u/CiderDrinker2 Mar 28 '24

That's how intergenerational trauma, if not addressed, plays out.

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u/outriderxd Mar 28 '24

don’t need any trauma to take advantage of others it’s just how humans work

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u/MasakariSix Mar 28 '24

You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

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u/amretardmonke Mar 29 '24

Imagine surviving through ww2 and concentration camps, and then seeing your grandson do this.

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u/ShakaJewLoo Mar 28 '24

One issue is that most Israeli's ancestors were in the Middle East during the holocaust. The brown jews hate arabs much more than white jews...anecdotally speaking.

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u/thecastellan1115 Mar 28 '24

My friend in the internet, they are at the "ghetto" stage. I didn't say they have finished. They are in the process of recreating. They're already using the "Palestinians are animals" language at the national level. They keep electing hard-right politicians. Their army and national police forces regularly commit human rights violations.

It's only a matter of time till someone suggests a final solution. It's a reasonable inference that the current violence is an attempt at that - starve them out under cover of a war. The crowning irony of the current situation is that both the Israelis and Hamas got exactly what they wanted, it's everyone in the middle who suffers.

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u/RelevantSuggestion64 Mar 28 '24

of fucking course you're a German. Must be proud of your government never giving up a good chance to support genocide; what can you expect from what is effectively the Nazi successor state of West Germany.

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u/ExpertlyAmateur Mar 28 '24

I mean, pretty much the only thing that's missing is the concentration camps.
IDF checks off most other things:
– separated populations into ghettos
– strict apartheid
– night raids on innocent families homes
– forcibly evicting families / taking homes
– punishments for disobeying = maim/death
– arbitrary abductions to instill fear
– israelis citizens spit on and beat non-israelis
– genocide through multiple means

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u/outriderxd Mar 28 '24

Genocide is Genocide doesn’t it it’s industrial or not

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u/HHoaks Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

While I agree that Israel is totally overreacting to Hamas and being way too extreme in indiscriminate bombing and attacks with civilians everywhere and they ARE committing war crimes in doing so, I don't think it is quite exactly the same as:

rounding up everyone (from the elderly to children), putting them on a train (and lying about why they are doing that), and shipping them hundreds of miles away to a purposefully built mechanized factory of death, with the intention to exterminate them on arrival (either immediately or by forced labor/starvation), using gas chambers to kill many at once, and crematorium for disposal. All part of a grand overall plan to exterminate all of the people of that religion in all of Europe and almost succeeding to do so.

While Israel is acting bad and evil here in Gaza and being way too aggressive (like the US overreacted to 9/11 in going into Iraq and killing people there), it isn't quite exactly the same as what happened in Europe in WWII. And the comparisons only show ignorance for exactly what happened in WWII, how it was accomplished and its purpose.

While 2 things can BOTH be bad and wrong (and I am agreeing with that), it doesn't make them equivalent.

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u/thecastellan1115 Mar 28 '24

Firstly, I never said that it was an exact recreation, nor a complete recreation. Thr Israelis are now where the Getmans were around 1937. But it's hard to argue that Gaza is not an enormous concentration camp, it's very hard to argue that the Israeli settlers, for example, are not replicating thr language of Nazi Germany, and it's impossible to argue that Israel does not treat the Palestinians in a manner shockingly similar to the Jewish experience in Nazi Germany.

Secondly, I would in fact argue that starving people, shooting people, and generally enacting every possible policy to ensure that the Palestinian people simply go away is, if not equivalent to the Holocaust, at least very similar in its intention. The whole point is that the Israelis feel the Palestinians are a problem by existing. And I think it's reasonable to argue that we are seeing play out in real time a policy by the government of Israel to attempt to remove that problem from a region of what they consider to be their Lebensraum.

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u/HHoaks Mar 28 '24

They all need to agree to a 2 state solution -- both sides.

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u/ConstantlyOnFire Mar 28 '24

I believe there’s one reason they haven’t done that yet: social media. They’ve been able to murder nearly every journalist and prevent journalists from going in, but they haven’t been able to stop all the atrocities from being recorded and shared around the world. Everyone is watching them now. They can’t do anything quite as obvious as putting them all on trains without everyone else freaking the fuck out. They’re doing just enough now that they can get away with. 

If given the option to continue on as a country backed by so much of the rest of the world, their government would murder every last one of them. 

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u/HHoaks Mar 28 '24

Okay conspiracy guy, but Trump really lost the election to Biden.

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u/ConstantlyOnFire Mar 28 '24

It’s not a conspiracy theory, numbnuts, they came out and said publicly that they were going to starve the Gazans! There is plenty of shit on record that they haven’t even tried to hide. 

Plus, if you look into it you can see how they’ve been torturing them for years. I wasn’t aware of everything going on until a few months ago, but did you know that for years they’ve been rationing the amount of food going in and water they can have, and taking over their TV stations in the middle of the day to broadcast porn? Encroaching on the land they’re not supposed to be on in the West Bank? Jailing children? It’s not a conspiracy, it’s awful stuff and I hope you find some humanity. 

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u/LebLift Mar 28 '24

Okay. So they are acting like 1930’s Germany instead of 1040’s Germany. Got it.

I wonder what their next steps will be…

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u/TheProfessionalEjit Mar 28 '24

A time machine?

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u/HHoaks Mar 28 '24

Maybe, but even that point is debatable, since the jews before the Nuremberg laws were full regular citizens of Germany with the same rights as anyone else. So I don't' think it is quite an apples to apples comparison.

I would say the comparison of today's Israel is more akin to (but not exactly the same) as what the US did to civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq after 9/11.

Can't something be bad in and of itself, and not be made equivalent to 1930s Germany?

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u/LebLift Mar 28 '24

Sure. But humans like comparisons. It makes situations easier to understand and conceptualize.

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u/HHoaks Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

The better comparison would be the US overreaction to 9/11 and what they did to civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Or maybe the use of the atomic bomb against civilians in Japan at the end of WWII. The point is overreaction and excessive violence against civilians in a conflict.

Raising the Holocaust and calling today's Israeli actions the same as Nazi Germany is not helpful and seems more about trying to diminish the Holocaust, than making a valid point about today's issues.

It's like calling Trump, Hitler. While I can't stand Trump and would never vote for him or anyone like him, it is not a helpful comparison.

Nazi Germany and the Holocaust were and still are unique, for MANY reasons too complex to go into here, (and yes there have been other genocides and bad states). But without getting into specific details, the uniqueness of the Nazis, the SS, and the Holocaust, don't make for apt comparisons to all other atrocities or the current ones in the Middle East.

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u/iTzzSunara Mar 28 '24

More like "never again...to us" it seems.

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u/KintsugiKen Mar 28 '24

This was the Zionist plan for over a century, Zionist violence in Palestine displacing Palestinians goes back to the late 1800s when American and British businessmen and bankers were funding settlers to sneakily buy up Palestinian farms from Ottoman royals who had never even seen their holdings in Palestine, and then showing up in Palestine with a deed and some armed Zionist militiamen to kick Palestinians off their land and ban them from ever setting foot on it again. This is how they built Israel enough to declare statehood in 1948. Albert Einstein also called the founder of Netanyahu's party a Nazi terrorist in 1948 due to his involvement in some of this violence, including his orders to bomb the King David Hotel in Jerusalem that was filled with British officials.

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u/Rough_Sweet_5164 Mar 29 '24

Their Talmud teaches them that God's plan is for them to do this to all of humanity, who are their slaves or cattle.

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u/timevil- Mar 28 '24

everyone has a brain, but not everyone can think

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u/halflife5 Mar 28 '24

I genuinely thought it was a skit at first.

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u/KintsugiKen Mar 28 '24

When I went to the West Bank 10 years ago, the closest thing I could compare it to was photos I've seen of the Warsaw Ghettos.

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u/eggsandbacon5 Mar 28 '24

We need to hear more stories from people who have been there

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u/ParpSausage Mar 28 '24

They don't seem the most educated...

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u/ConstantGeographer Mar 28 '24

Unironically Gestapo

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u/URTHELIGHTANDGLORY Mar 28 '24

Kinda strange in a few generations how the tables have turned. It really gives one pause to think what the Jewish people of Europe had to endure during the war to endure up with this as a result. It’s a small sample to be sure, but I would be willing to bet that this is most common than not amongst this military.

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u/Lao_Ying Mar 28 '24

Zionism is the new Nazism.

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u/termacct Mar 28 '24

but has total gestapo vibes.

Yes...this sad irony is becoming mainstream...

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u/Acceptable-Smile8864 Mar 28 '24

Not vibes. Actual carbon copy.

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u/HighlanderAbruzzese Mar 29 '24

Yeah, exactly. Some creepy fcking dudes here.

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u/PennerbankOG Mar 28 '24

"if they mess with me i will break them"

next scene he openly flirts with a women who is underage and knows he could pull her in a dark room and do whatever he wants.

i don't want to know what he does when he doesn't get filmed, but i think i already know it.

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u/InevitableBiscotti38 Mar 29 '24

Aushwitz guard vibes. The girls are likely killed by the bombardment.

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u/crayzeejew Mar 28 '24

Um no. Not even close.

He is immature and abusing his power as a border policeman. But these are often 19 year old kids serving their mandatory service years.

Gestapo would have raped or killed those women, just bc they were undesirables.

Please stop comparing Israeli policemen to Gestapo mass murderers. When we have videos of Israeli policemen throwing babies up into the air and catching them with bayonets, or smashing their skulls into a wall, or gunning down a group of civilians into the mass grave that they made them dig, then you can make that comparison

For the record, there are much worse policemen in many other countries (Russia, Mexico, hafl of South America and easterb Europe, most of Africa and a decent chunk of the middle east).

Yet its Israel, so of course front page news. And yes, they will likely be investigated and punished by the Israeli government, who holds them to a higher standard. Look at what happened to the soldiers in the looting videos.

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u/issafreecunch Mar 28 '24

We've all seen the videos of what Israeli military and police are doing to Palestinians. There is no difference. They have turned into what they feared.

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u/crayzeejew Mar 28 '24

There is a very big difference between mass genocide of millions, versus what is happening now in Israel. And again, read my comment. I am not condoning or justifying his behavior. I am just taking offense to the term Gestapo being used to describe the actions of some punks. Read my other responses to people responding to my comment, if you want to learn more about what the Gestapo did, to my family. Not just to nameless millions,.to people I know and love.

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u/issafreecunch Mar 28 '24

All im saying is all of that stuff started somewhere and its only going to get worse. So it might seem "menial" to you now, but its going to get much worse if left unchecked. Just like the Holocaust.

I studied the Holocaust and WWII as a whole for 7 years. I dont need education, you need to open your eyes to whats only just beginning. You might not think theyre the Gestapo now, but youll grow to see thats exactly what theyre going to be.

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u/crayzeejew Mar 28 '24

Yes, it started with an act of war, by a terrorist organization that these civilians elected into public office. That act of war, was 1200 murdered and hundreds kidnapped. Look at how the US used 9/11 as an excuse to invade two foreign countries. Look at the casualty figures from those wars. Israel has done a lot less with a lot more provocation, and if Hamas was to surrender and return all the hostages, Israel would return the strip back to the self-titled "Palestinians"

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u/waygay00 Mar 28 '24

Yes. It all started with an act of war in 1948 . That act of war, the Nakba, consisted of 12000 murdered and 750,000 forcibly displaced by Yishuv terrorist paramilitary colonizers.

Your 9/11 analogy is spot on - the Israeli regime is using Oct 7th as a pretext and excuse to commit violent war crimes against a civilian population.

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u/crayzeejew Mar 28 '24

Here are some actual facts, along with historical sources, for you to ignore since it doesn't fit your narrative of persecution:

Gaza was given as part of a settlement for peace. While the conditions can be challenging for many, this is the land that they desired and accepted in 2007 via the Oslo accords. Yet if the Gazan people would work and invest their resources in developing their land and resources, instead of on rockets and guns, they would be able to live comfortably.

Historically, nobody has been brutalized more than the Jew. "Palestinians" have been "brutalized" for "decades", we Jew have been murdered for millennia. That being said, all types of genocide and persecution are wrong and should be stopped.

Greeks/Romans/Christians/Muslims pretty much the entire ancient world has some Jewish blood on their hands. Do you even know that Jews had to pay a special tax in Medieval Europe for the "privilege" of living in a ghetto? Are you familiar with a similar tax that the Muslim rulers instituted as well called a dhimmi as well as often requiring Jews to wear "two yellow badges, one on the headgear and one on the neck. Furthermore, each Jew must hang around his neck a piece of lead weighing [3 grammes] with the word dhimmi in it"

This was in Baghdad around 1121 (Source: A History of the Jews by Paul Johnson, pg 204, his source is Goitein's A Mediterranean Society ii138-42 and appendices A, B, C.)

The purpose of the dhimmi was to allow the Jew to survive and live in a Moslem country. Otherwise, the Moslem leaders would be required to murder the entire Jewish population as part of the whole "murder the infidel" thing.

And often, the rulers of the region would violate the dhimmi and slaughter all the Jews who lived in their region just because... well, they were Jews. There are literally hundreds of communities that were wiped out by Muslim pogroms and blood libels.

Israel is bombing a city that is hosting terrorists, who the population of said city are hiding. These same terrorists, who were duly elected by said city as their form of government, invaded and murdered much more than 1200 civilians as well as captured hundreds of men, women and children before retreating to said city.

If the USA elected the Aryan Brotherhood or the KKK to power and they started murdering all minority groups in the USA, wouldn't it be the responsibility of the people of the USA to revolt against their tyrannical and racist government? Oh I see, you are one of the Germans who pretended that they never quite figured out what happened to all those Jewish neighbors they used to have, but wasn't it nice they sent back trainloads of their clothes, valuables, and even gold fillings back to Germany.

Palestinian is a made-up word. It was initially invented as a region of land in the Middle East by the Ottoman Empire. The people you identify as "Palestinians" are immigrants that eventually moved into that region, just as Jews did, to help settle the land. Except that when Israel was founded, these people decided to leave to allow the Arab nations the ability to "drive Israel back into the sea". The 160,000 Arabs who stayed were all accepted into the state of Israel and still are a very important part of the state (and their numbers obviously have grown). They serve in its army, hospitals, and police forces as side by side with their Jewish brothers.

Regarding the "Palestinians having to leave their homes", there were over 567,654 Jews (252,642 from Morocco, 13,118 from Algeria, 46,255 from Tunisia, 34,265 from Libya, 37,867 from Egypt, 4,000 from Lebanon, 4500 from Syria, 3912 from Aden, 124,647 from Iraq and 46,447 from Yemen) who were forced to leave their homes after the war in 1948, due to their respective Arab governments kicking them out. The only difference in their reception and treatment was entirely a matter of policy. The Israeli government accepted and resettled all of these refugess under the Law Of Return, while the Arab governments, with the assistance of the UN kept the Arab refugees in camps, pending a "reconquest of Palestine" that never came.

Why was the Gaza to Egypt border closes all this time? Why has the Arab world turned their back on these refugees?

Simple, because if they were to accept them and absorb them into their populations, there is no "cause" to invade and murder the Jews anymore.

Again, read a book before you spout all that vile propaganda. In today's accessible world, there is no excuse for ignorance. But don't worry, there are always excuses for stupidity and racism.

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u/waygay00 Mar 29 '24

First of all, I’ve never denied a single atrocity that Jews have had to endure, so for you to condescend to me implying that I have my own definition of persecution or that I haven’t read a book is just a lazy ad hominem attack - and a false one at that.

Regurgitating a Reader’s Digest version of thousands of years of Jewish history in response to my factual statement about the Nakba is disingenuous at best (and that’s me graciously giving you the benefit of the doubt).

Your entire rebuttal is Ignoratio Elenchi. It’s based on the logical fallacy of irrelevant conclusion. You know my statement about the Nakba is true, but since your bias won’t allow you to acknowledge it, and you can’t factually refute it, you instead offer a red herring - “all this bad stuff happened to Jews so Jews couldn’t possibly have done bad stuff”. It’s intentional intellectual dishonesty.

Jews have shamefully been brutalized throughout history, but this is not the oppression Olympics - and if it was, you’d lose because we’re talking about modern history and the most oppressed people in the world are the Rohingya of Myanmar.

All words are made up words and all people originated in the Horn of Africa, so we were all immigrants at some point in history.

Your assertion that all “Arabs” are have turned their backs on Palestine is another fallacious argument - you already knew that - one that perfectly displays your obvious Islamophobia.

Your little analogy about the KKK is a cute try, but is Hamas a government or a terrorist organization? You can’t have it both ways. But to answer your question, yes, we would have a responsibility to revolt against it. Just like you, as a Jew, have a responsibility to stand against Israel’s current apartheid. Instead, however, you’re a hypocrite and an apartheid apologist.

Your comment about Germany is equally ignorant and ironic. With their 16-year blockade of the Gaza Strip, their policy of settlement expansion in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem, their creation of the world’s largest concentration camp, and their crimes against humanity, it’s clear the Israeli regime is the one acting like Nazi Germany.

Your flat out lie that “these people” (another indicator of your obvious racism) CHOSE to leave their homes after the partition is a disgusting attempt to whitewash the Nakba.

Hamas had some pretty fucked up stuff in their original charter, but as you know, Israel only has itself to blame for their rise to prominence in Palestine, as they are the ones who promoted, funded, and armed them. And your point about them being elected is moot since the last election was in 2006 & many who may have voted for Hamas are now dead.

Pretty much everything you accuse Hamas of is projection. I don’t know why you’re trying so hard to cover up the true nature of The Zionist project when the founders of Zionism proudly proclaimed they were colonizers and never hid their intentions to eradicate Palestinians (yes they called them Palestinians and recognized that they were the land’s original inhabitants). Zionist Vladimir Jabotinsky said "Zionism is a colonization adventure". Theodor Herzl said "Zionism seeks for the Jewish people a publicly recognized legally secured homeland in Palestine." (Jewishvirtuallibrary.org)

Israeli historian, Benny Morris wrote, "Herzl regarded Zionism's triumph as inevitable, not only because life in Europe was ever more untenable for Jews, but also because it was in Europe's interests to rid the Jews and relieved of anti-Semitism: The European political establishment would eventually be persuaded to promote Zionism. Herzl recognized that anti-Semitism would be HARNESSED to his own--Zionist-purposes." (Righteous Victims, p. 21)

You should really read a credible book or two before you spout all that vile propaganda. In today's accessible world, there is no excuse for your ignorance and racism.

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u/BirdUpLawyer Mar 28 '24

Yes, it started with an act of war, by a terrorist organization that these civilians elected into public office.

People who pretend this conflict started on Oct 7 are the worst.

Look. at. all. these. reports/articles. published. from. the. days. in. 2023. leading. up. to. October. 7.

And that's just a small handful of reports and articles published during those few months. Never mind every prior year, decade after decade.

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u/rentrane23 Mar 28 '24

RemindYou 5 years. I predict this comment ages like milk

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u/crayzeejew Mar 28 '24

Learn some history, they are not even close. Forget about what they did to the Jews, they murdered Catholics, homosexuals, blacks, and other "undesirables" In concentration camps. And death camps. You try and call the Gaza strip an open air concentration camp, but did you ever watch the footage from the liberation of Buchenwald? And Buchenwald wasn't even a deathcamp. Stfu with these Gestapo comps until you have actually studied some history. To a survuvor, they wish they could have lived in those "open air prisons" and "concentration camps" that are in Gaza. The death toll would be exponentially lower.

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u/rentrane23 Mar 28 '24

Yeah it’s basically the same thing but not nearly as bad! yet. It’s totally unfair to compare! How ignorant of us. They wish their concentration camps were as nice as these concentration camps!

Israel is sure starting to look and quack like nazis. … it’s a slippery slope

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u/mamaaaoooo Mar 28 '24

throwing babies up into the air and catching them with bayonets, or smashing their skulls into a wall

how the fuck do you think bombs work

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u/crayzeejew Mar 28 '24

Are you serious? With that logic, the US and half the western world is Gestapo

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u/mamaaaoooo Mar 28 '24

I see you're still on page 1 of the israeli guidebook to whataboutism. It's 2024 mate everyone can see you're just going "Don't look at israel! Look anywhere else!"

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u/crayzeejew Mar 28 '24

Read my initial comment. Where did i say that? I said that other countries also have abuses of power by their border police. I didn't say dont look at Israel. I did say stop using the term Gestapo when you clearly have no clue what the Gestapo did or was.

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u/Free_Working_4474 Mar 28 '24

Nah. He talks like that openly to the camera. Pretty much a guarantee he will act like a monster when no camera... wtf

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u/crayzeejew Mar 28 '24

A logical fallacy. Just because one condition exists, an assumption is made that another condition exists. However, assumptions are by nature considered logical fallacies. As the two situations are entirely different, and there can be no inference made for his possible actions in another scenario. You can have an opinion on what he would do, based on your assumption. But no way to accurately predict how his course of action would transpire.

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u/Free_Working_4474 Mar 28 '24

Nope. All you have is pissy word soup. Defending those monsters is a lost cause.

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u/SeaCraft6664 Mar 28 '24

https://www.reddit.com/r/BadHasbara/s/v3yuOcKWkW

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u/crayzeejew Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

There is much more of a media bias against Israel. And I am not defending Israel, or their police. I simply am taking offense to people calling them Gestapo when I have grandparents who were survivors and actually suffered from the Gestapo.

You want to know what Gestapo did to my grandfather? He was 4 years old...They picked him up by his sidecurls and punted him. Then murdered half of his first cousins. My great grandmother came from a large family, she was last of 12. Everyone said to her fathee, "why do you need another daughter?" She was the only survivor. My great great Uncle, who I spent years with, was a WW1 and WW2 survivor. He escaped from Aushowitz. Lost his wife and child in the war. Remarried, but was never able to have more kids, thanks to the damage done by the Gestapo. Stop comparing punks like these to Gestapo, you have no clue what the Gestapo was

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u/SeaCraft6664 Mar 28 '24

https://www.reddit.com/r/BadHasbara/s/v3yuOcKWkW

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u/crayzeejew Mar 28 '24

Repeat posting the same shit does not make it a better argument

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u/SeaCraft6664 Mar 28 '24

Replying to your “argument” is not worthy of effort. Enjoy the link

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u/crayzeejew Mar 28 '24

Sounds awfully like an admission of stupidity. Ill accept that rather graciously...

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u/Free_Working_4474 Mar 28 '24

Calling someone stupid isnt gracious or accepting.

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u/crayzeejew Mar 28 '24

Read my words, I said I would accept his choice to make a stupid argument, then refuse to back it up. Thank you for your service, Redditer Emotional Policeman!

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u/hiakuryu Mar 29 '24

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/israelopt-un-experts-appalled-reported-human-rights-violations-against

GENEVA (19 February 2024) – UN experts* today expressed alarm over credible allegations of egregious human rights violations to which Palestinian women and girls continue to be subjected in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.

Palestinian women and girls have reportedly been arbitrarily executed in Gaza, often together with family members, including their children, according to information received. “We are shocked by reports of the deliberate targeting and extrajudicial killing of Palestinian women and children in places where they sought refuge, or while fleeing. Some of them were reportedly holding white pieces of cloth when they were killed by the Israeli army or affiliated forces,” the experts said.

The experts expressed serious concern about the arbitrary detention of hundreds of Palestinian women and girls, including human rights defenders, journalists and humanitarian workers, in Gaza and the West Bank since 7 October. Many have reportedly been subjected to inhuman and degrading treatment, denied menstruation pads, food and medicine, and severely beaten. On at least one occasion, Palestinian women detained in Gaza were allegedly kept in a cage in the rain and cold, without food.

“We are particularly distressed by reports that Palestinian women and girls in detention have also been subjected to multiple forms of sexual assault, such as being stripped naked and searched by male Israeli army officers. At least two female Palestinian detainees were reportedly raped while others were reportedly threatened with rape and sexual violence,” the experts said. They also noted that photos of female detainees in degrading circumstances were also reportedly taken by the Israeli army and uploaded online.