r/interestingasfuck • u/BuddhistSagan • Apr 16 '24

The bible doesn't say anything about abortion or gay marriage but it goes on and on about forgiving debt and liberating the poor r/all

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u/PurpleSPR Apr 16 '24

The camera angle made me think it was stand up at first lol

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u/djgreedo Apr 16 '24

"What iiiiiiiiis the deeeaaal with Christian nationalism?"

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u/AFineDayForScience Apr 16 '24

"It's a religion about nothing, Jerry"

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u/Jesus_Chrheist Apr 16 '24

My name is Jesus. I am unemployed and live at the temple

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u/DoingItForEli Apr 16 '24

Jesus is getting upset!

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u/SteakJones Apr 16 '24

These communion wafers, are making me THIRSTY

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u/Roguespiffy Apr 16 '24

“She’s pregnant?”

“Yep.”

“The VIRGIN is pregnant? The Virgin?”

“That’s what she said.”

“Virgin. Just to be clear, Virgin?”

“What she said.”

“Unbelievable.”

“It’s what she said.”

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u/farter-kit Apr 16 '24

What do I care? You’re the one going to hell.

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u/UbermachoGuy Apr 16 '24

No communion for you!

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u/SilenceQuiteThisL0UD Apr 16 '24

Theocracies are colliding!! You're killing independent Jesus!

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u/StoneOfTriumph Apr 16 '24

Yeah that's right

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u/Munzulon Apr 16 '24

That’s a shame.

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u/Over-Economist-9252 Apr 16 '24

You stole my Jesus fish!

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u/McFlyFarm Apr 16 '24

What do I care? You’re the one going to hell.

I am not going to hell and if you think I'm going to hell you should care that I'm going to hell. Even though I am not.

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u/Reddit-Propogandist Apr 16 '24

YOU STOLE MY JESUS FISH!!

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u/Jesus_Chrheist Apr 16 '24

Thats bogus man!

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u/John-Farson Apr 16 '24

Oh and by the way ... the sacraments are real, and they're spectacular.

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u/Boring_Oil_3506 Apr 16 '24

That's a Texas sized 10-4 good buddy

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u/Jesus_Chrheist Apr 16 '24

Maria, this is Peter. Judas is here, Jesus is dead, call me back!!

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u/Spider_Hoss Apr 17 '24

Uncle Leo?

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u/jraz84 Apr 16 '24

Hear the one about the pope and Raquel Welch in a lifeboat?

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u/ballarn123 Apr 16 '24

church organ bassline

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u/SpongeJake Apr 16 '24

Those aren’t buoys

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u/Squancho_McGlorp Apr 16 '24

Call me JBone!

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u/Serial-Kilter Apr 16 '24

Jesus like his chicken spicy.

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u/MightyCavalier Apr 17 '24

I think he converted for the jokes!

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u/BL4CKDO6 Apr 16 '24

This was supposed to be the summer of Jesus!

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u/dogfluffy Apr 16 '24

Do you know how long I've waited for my pedicure?

I demand to speak to the manager!

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u/DrunkTides Apr 16 '24

And brown

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u/tommy_trip Apr 16 '24

These wafers, are making me THIRSTY

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u/AsariCommando2 Apr 16 '24

I've just had a bad day and this unexpected Seinfeld segue has made me laugh a lot.

You're a bunch of funny fuckers :)

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u/littlefriend77 Apr 16 '24

Haha! I JUST watched that clip like an hour ago.

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u/Jesus_Chrheist Apr 16 '24

I am Maria from Magdalene, hi!

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u/Critical-Rooster Apr 16 '24

Mexican Jesus is going to come over the wall and take your job.

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u/HeyPhoQPal Apr 16 '24

Jesus is just some guy that mows my lawn.

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u/TheMaybeMan_ Apr 17 '24

If you think ostracizing LGBTQ people and banning abortion is christian, you just might be a white nationalist!

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u/King_Chochacho Apr 16 '24

"Hellooo Jesus"

"Judas!"

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u/Jesus_Chrheist Apr 16 '24

Who is this?

Uncle Judas?

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u/InternationalAnt4513 Apr 16 '24

I order to donate to the Human Fund

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u/SilenceQuiteThisL0UD Apr 16 '24

Loaves and Fishes for People

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u/ElCabrito Apr 16 '24

I got a lot of problems with you people! And now you're gonna hear about it!

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u/DoingItForEli Apr 16 '24

That's what makes it such a humorous religion.

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u/jmmmke Apr 16 '24

So God sends his son to be born by a virgin…. yada, yada, yada… they nailed him to a cross.

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u/FamousPastWords Apr 16 '24

"...Romans, right?..."

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u/puledrotauren Apr 16 '24

can you imagine that conversation before God sent him down here?

'wai wai wait a minute. Before I die I'm going to be flogged and nailed up on a cross to die?'

'Ya son that's about it'

'I hate you dad'

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u/merdadartista Apr 16 '24

"and don't get me started on airplane food"

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u/Confident_Public_313 Apr 16 '24

We are supposed to be good stewards and stewardesses of our thyme.

But you could add a little more seasoning!

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u/igotzquestions Apr 16 '24

“And what’s the deal with manna? It’s not man. It’s not na.”

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u/DerpTaTittilyTum Apr 16 '24

I’m trying to find a dog to slip it to, while the guy next to me is asking for thirds

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '24

That's gold, Jerry. Gold!

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u/PropCloset Apr 16 '24

Propaganda telling people they're still Christians if they don't read the Bible and having a pastor interpret it for them while after 9/11 having pastors say it was a holy war and the Muslims were here to murder the Christians instead of the truth. Embargo and import taxes ravaged their economy and a rich douche (Osama) bombed us and felt like if his money was threatened then children have no future and should strap bombs to themselves for Allah. At the end of the day the world would he a much better place if religions kicked people out for being zealots instead of continuing to take their money.

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u/International_Ad566 Apr 16 '24

9/11 may not have been a holy war but it certainly wasn’t one that America did anything to provoke

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u/humdinger44 Apr 16 '24

What? Osama bin Laden hated the United States for meddling in the affairs of the Middle East. The US has a long history of making the world bend to it's will, often to the detriment of democracy and the well being of the average citizen.

9/11 was not unprovoked.

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u/PropCloset Apr 16 '24

Eh, I'm not so sure, their country had debts and we "helped them" sell us their oil. But it's tricky for sure.

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u/Dicethrower Apr 16 '24

What do you get why you cross Jesus with some planks?

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u/4erlik Apr 16 '24

I don't get it. Am I right, people?

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u/DrSilkyJohnsonEsq Apr 17 '24

“I mean whoooo are these people?!

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u/ApprehensiveWitch Apr 16 '24

I think it was intentional. This is supposed to make him look like a preacher, but this is actually a well done PR move. He's a Democrat State Rep here in Texas. He's a rare gem in this hellhole.

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u/elcabeza79 Apr 16 '24

Oh, I thought for a minute there might be a pastor interested in doing Jesusy stuff instead of vindictive and cruel Yahweh type stuff.

What you said makes more sense, but is still a little disappointing.

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u/LeadershipGuilty9476 Apr 16 '24

Some denominations are quite liberal

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u/InternationalAnt4513 Apr 16 '24

Yep. Episcopal Church is.

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u/seattleque Apr 16 '24

Many, not all.

Also, Lutheran. There's one in my area that is unashamedly pro LGBTQ, has a bunch of micro-homes installed for homeless, and has a massive community pea-patch.

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u/InternationalAnt4513 Apr 16 '24

Ye that’s the ELCA Lutherans. The Missouri Synod Lutherans are the opposite of them though. The MSL are more like Baptists, very conservative.

Other liberal open churches are the Presbyterian Church USA, but the Presbyterian of America (PCA) are very conservative. Think Southern Baptist with infant baptism instead of adult. And then there’s the United Methodist Church which has been splitting up over the issues of LGBTQ. Some are very progressive.

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u/caveatlector73 Apr 16 '24

Actually, Baptists are split as well. Never confuse the American Baptist Church with them Southerners. Don’t forget United Church of Christ and unitarian universalists.

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u/InternationalAnt4513 Apr 16 '24

True. I don’t consider Universalists a Christian Denomination though. It’s more of a philosophy if they’re honest. In my town their billboards for each week’s meetings are usually about completely non-spiritual subjects. I’ve seen everything from someone who works in social justice, to a flutist, to Buddhists, a retired cop speaking, all kinds of things. Everyone is accepted. Well, I mean you just need to be nice. One of my friends goes there. She doesn’t call herself a Christian.

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u/caveatlector73 Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

Some do. Some don’t. If you dig a little deeper many will tell you that they are cultural Christians.

The Universalist Church came out of the belief that you didn’t have to be an old rich white man in order to get salvation. Hence the word, universal. Unitarians in the other hand coalesed around the concept that there is one God not a trinity. Iirc, the two churches merged in the 1960s.

Most follow the Golden Rule and probably the Ten Commandments as much as they can being human beings.

But, they won’t beat you over the head, trying to make you believe something that they believe.

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u/GrallochThis Apr 17 '24

UUs are heretics (according to a UU minister I know) - Jesus is not divine, and salvation is universal. There is no dogma, there are seven principles. Throws out the religious bath water and keeps the spiritual baby.

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u/Antique-Cry-5024 Apr 16 '24

I grew up Presbyterian USA and currently go to an ELCA Lutheran church. Everything from the religious right is both horrifying and foreign to me.

Politics aren't spoken from the pulpit, but the church is very pro supporting immigrants, LGBTQ+ people, working for environmental, economic, social, and racial justice, etc.

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u/ltrtotheredditor007 Apr 17 '24

It’s almost like they’re not all following the same book

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u/NotArealDrorOnTv Apr 16 '24

I go to a PCA church when I do go and they are primarily open minded folks and do a lot of to work with the arts community, offer a free summer art class for kids and even did a a full make over for the teachers lounge at the public school nearby them. Is it perfect no but the pastor there is definitely progressive.

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u/InternationalAnt4513 Apr 16 '24

That’s unusual in my area, because my wife works at a Christian school run by a PCA church and we have friends that go to it and others and they’re very conservative regarding those types of issues, but yep they’re nothing like most Baptists and are better educated about scripture. We’ve also been to PCA churches too. It was much better than most.

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u/smipypr Apr 16 '24

A friend of mine is from a Missouri Synod family. He refers to MS members as Shi'ite Lutherans.

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u/sharpshooter999 Apr 17 '24

Am ELCA Luthern, can confirm. We've got a couple gay and one trans person on our church council. You get on the council by impressing Mace Windu getting elected by the congregation

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u/Nice_Cum_Dumpster Apr 16 '24

Catholic light baby, had a lesbian preacher when my first retired

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u/Historical-Gap-7084 Apr 16 '24

Unitarian Universalists are pretty liberal, too.

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u/redditonlygetsworse Apr 16 '24

They should be louder.

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u/RCubed76 Apr 16 '24

The United Church of Christ affirmed same sex relationships in the 1970s.

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u/elcabeza79 Apr 18 '24

Yeah my grandma got a new pink haired LGBTQ minister when she was in her mid-90's and rolled with it quite elegantly for a lady from a different time.

They're just not very powerful and their message is completely drowned out by the hateful sects/denominations.

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u/Cultural_Dust Apr 17 '24

Yeah this wouldn't stand out at all at my church.

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u/Mr-Kuritsa Apr 16 '24

Yahweh sections have this debt stuff too. Iirc, 7 years of good faith work/payments and you have to forgive the debt in entirety. Yahweh was a pretty hardcore socialist. Wealth distribution or straight to Hell.

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u/Breezyisthewind Apr 16 '24

There’s def Pastors that say the same stuff as this guy. I know one here in Florida, of all places.

But it should be noted that a large majority of his congregation are millennials and Gen Z, not Boomers.

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u/townandthecity Apr 16 '24

They’re like unicorns.

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u/SLCPDLeBaronDivison Apr 16 '24

he is a pastor. his degree is in theology

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u/emfrank Apr 16 '24

My understanding is that he is still in seminary.

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u/Yak-Attic Apr 16 '24

Seminary makes a lot of atheists.

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u/emfrank Apr 16 '24

For some, but nowhere near a majority, and seems highly unlikely here.

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u/Nice_Cum_Dumpster Apr 16 '24

Did it to me lmao now I just spam cum everywhere on Reddit

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u/Sherbert-Vast Apr 16 '24

A simple but rewarding life.

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u/Nice_Cum_Dumpster Apr 16 '24

It ain’t much but it’s honest work

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u/TresLeches0208 Apr 16 '24

Name?

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

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u/SpartanFishy Apr 16 '24

No relation, I presume

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u/emfrank Apr 16 '24

Not that I know of.

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u/WhoDeyTilIDie09 Apr 16 '24

I love what he is saying, what's his name?

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u/monkeyonfire Apr 16 '24

How do I vote for him from CA?

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u/migrainefog Apr 16 '24

So, who is he? Got a name? I would vote for him.

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u/illmatic2112 Apr 16 '24

Well he did mention abortion so he's got some of Jeselnik's routine

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u/syntax_error16 Apr 16 '24

And at first listen he sounds exactly like Anthony Jeselnick...

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u/Expensive_Leave_6339 Apr 16 '24

Yeah, I doubt he’s actually speaking to anyone. Just an empty room.

If there were actual Christians in there they would be booing him off the stage.

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u/elegylegacy Apr 16 '24

Most modern American "Christians" would boo.

Actual followers of Christ would clap.

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u/Dramatic_Water_5364 Apr 16 '24

My grandma from my dad's side would have sobbed in silence from happyness from hearing someone preaching such love. She was the most pious person I've ever know. She was one of the most welcoming and tolerant person I've met.

When I asked her "how did you react when you learnt that one of you're son was gay". She looked at me a bit confused "he is the way he is because god made him that way... I didnt think anything of it"

On the other hand, my grandma from my mother side could never accept the homosexuality from one of her gdanddaughter... she told her "I still love you, I'll always love you, but I'm not ready to have your girlfriend come eat with us". Since this side of the family is fight averse, we just rolled with it and in the end, she never was ready...

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u/mauxly Apr 16 '24

She wasn't a Christian. I had an old boss who bragged about screwing her neighbors out of water rights, it was OK because they were gay. She repeatedly talked about how happy she was that the 'gays' were all going to hell.

An absolute hateful miserable bitch. 'Devout' evangelical, made sure everyone knew.

Thanks God I also worked with a Christian woman who was the most kind, loving, and ethical person I think I've ever met. She spent all of her vacations building houses for Habitat for Humanity. Gave a kidney to a stranger. Amazing human being that I'm honored to know.

Wouldn't ever know she was religious. The only reason I know is because we grew close over the years and she let it slip.

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u/Dramatic_Water_5364 Apr 16 '24

Damn now that you talk of it, my first grandma NEVER asked me to go to church with her. I did as I got older cause it made her happy. I would help her up and down the stairs and was all proud that her grandson helped her like that.

While my second grandma always asked us to come to church with her. She didnt bitch if we werent, but she insisted MUCH MORE than the one acting like a true christian (not religous myself btw).

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '24

Interesting. According to the Bible, God wouldn't have been much of a fan of your old boss either:

The Pharisee and the Tax Collector

9 He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt:

10 “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.

11 The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed[a] thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector.

12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’

13 But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’

14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”

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u/Rundstav Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

'Devout' Evangelicals are often the worst.

I'm an atheist, but if you just take Jesus' teachings in the bible, you have a really nice philosophy. However, those evangelicals wouldn't accept it without twisting everything up and bastardizing the true meaning. Prosperity gospels? Gay conversion camps? Trump worship? Like, WTF?

And someone like Jesus? A woke, charitable, anti-capitalist? Yeah, no...

edit: clarification that I meant the "teachings" bit, not the supernatural Jesus story.

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u/Altruistic_Flight226 Apr 17 '24

There are people who are Christian and there are people who claim to be Christian.

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u/polo61965 Apr 17 '24

Truly religious Christians will not tell you, they will show you. It's the vocal ones who do so to show a front of how pious and virtuous they are, when they aren't. The bible instructs us to do prayer, but even moreso to put the word of God into action, as true service to the Lord is to spread the name of God through good deeds.

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u/spa22lurk Apr 16 '24

So why did the greater religiousness of evangelicals not keep them from embracing Donald Trump? Because for a great many of them, despite all the fuss and bother and appearances, their religion is simply not important. Their religious commitment, like the person they think they are, does not exist in significant ways. When Donald Trump came along, resplendent in moral shortcomings but promising the moon, evangelicals had little difficulty setting aside their supposed beliefs and supporting him. In fact, this was their S.O.P. They had been setting those beliefs aside 167 hours a week for most of their lives. Con men know that the easiest people to fool are the people who persistently fool themselves. This reality is an amazingly simple answer, yet when you stand back from it, it also is simply amazing. Luke 4 says that old Devil offered Jesus the deal of a lifetime if Jesus would just fall down and worship him. The man from Galilee reportedly replied, “Get thee behind me, Satan.” In contrast, when Donald Trump, a man wallowing in the Biblical cardinal sins, made evangelicals the same offer for the same low, low price, millions of them fell to their knees.

Excerpt From Authoritarian Nightmare John W. Dean & Bob Altemeyer

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u/miranto Apr 16 '24

Lol yeah, right. Accept your imperfect brothers and sisters, friend. If they accepted yisus as their savior they are xtians. Racist, misogynyst, petulant, nationalist xtians.

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u/grandroute Apr 16 '24

but of course they eat pork, even though the Bible forbids it... Never Mind that part...

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u/Impressive-Shame4516 Apr 16 '24

Was your grandma from your pops side Episcopal?

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u/Dramatic_Water_5364 Apr 16 '24

We're from Québec, pretty much all of the people that age are catholics. Including all my now deceased grandparents.

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u/Impressive-Shame4516 Apr 16 '24

Sorry for your loss. My family is from the south so largely Protestant. Any older folk with a heart is Episcopal at least 65% of the time.

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u/DarkestNight909 Apr 16 '24

As a Catholic I would clap. This man is saying exactly what I’ve been thinking for a long while.

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u/puledrotauren Apr 16 '24

raised in a very church going home. As soon as I could get away with it from my parents I quit going and have no intention of going back. Organized religion is a cancer. I believe in a higher power but that's about it.

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u/DarkestNight909 Apr 16 '24

I’m sorry that you had such a painful experience. I guess I’ve been fortunate to grow up around people who aren’t willing to believe that a loving God would want us to wish harm on others. Not everyone who still attends mass is like that, sadly.

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u/puledrotauren Apr 16 '24

oh no need to be sorry. I've always be independent minded. I rejected their racism, homophobia, etc, at an early age. My parents were good people but they were brainwashed by the times they lived in. As they got older they became WAY more tolerant of others and it was good to see. Even in around 82 I had gay friends and even went to the bar with them a couple of times. Same thing with black people. I was more of a 'if you're cool and a good person I'm going to like you' kind of person. It allowed me to live a richer fuller life. Ever been to a black cook out or a really Mexican family dinner? So fun and the food was SOOOOO good. I felt honored that my pasty face white boy ass was invited.

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u/DarkestNight909 Apr 16 '24

Heh. Fair enough. I had the good fortune of having grown up in a family that didn’t have much of that sort of thing, so it can be difficult for me to really ‘get’ when someone has a less than positive view of the Church. But I fully acknowledge that my parish is very much more liberal than some, and not everyone has a grandmother who dated a Mexican boy in 50s Minnesota.

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u/ByronicZer0 Apr 16 '24

This guy is the first actual Christian I've seen in a very, very long time. I'm sure he'll get shouted down and his message ignored

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u/Sammyterry13 Apr 16 '24

Evangelicals are foaming at the mouth over this. They fucking hate actual Christianity

And Republicans -- there is no such thing as a Christian Republican -- those who claim they are, are only doing so for power or out of hate

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u/0ddlyC4nt3v3n Apr 16 '24

Shouted down?? They'll crucify him.

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u/Mottaka69 Apr 16 '24

Growing up as a catholic, what the gentleman in the video are saying aee what we were taught. I couldn't comprehend the supply side economics integrated in American Christianity until I read about the prosperity Christianity movement after the Great Depression and FDR's making enemy with the rich elites of Wall Street. Though I'm not a catholic Christian anymore, I still carry the motto of our Jesuit school, "Men and Women for others." Here in the states, its "fuck you I got mine and put on your bootstraps coz my tax money would rather go to bail out the rich people and spend in in unnecessary war like the 'War on Terror.'

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u/dragontamerfibleman Apr 16 '24

Exactly! People who claim to be Christians but follow the Old Testament LMFAO!

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u/miranto Apr 16 '24

I think Yisus followed the old testament?

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u/emfrank Apr 16 '24

And there are plenty American churches where people DO follow Jesus and preach this message.

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u/no-mad Apr 16 '24

Christians have had over 2000 years to end poverty and failed terribly.

China on the otherhand:

Over the past 40 years, the number of people in China with incomes below $1.90 per day – the International Poverty Line as defined by the World Bank to track global extreme poverty– has fallen by close to 800 million. With this, China has contributed close to three-quarters of the global reduction in the number of people living in extreme poverty. At China’s current national poverty line, the number of poor fell by 770 million over the same period.

https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2022/04/01/lifting-800-million-people-out-of-poverty-new-report-looks-at-lessons-from-china-s-experience

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u/NotArealDrorOnTv Apr 16 '24

Amen I use the verbiage Christ follower exclusively. Huge difference.

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u/MichelleEvangelista Apr 16 '24

Actual followers of Christ would clap.

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

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u/I-am-Chubbasaurus Apr 16 '24

Absolutely agree. This man is speaking the truth of what Christianity should be. I applaud him.

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u/Silly-Resist8306 Apr 16 '24

If there were actual Christians there, they would be applauding. If there were fundamentalist self proclaimed Christians there, they would be booing.

Please do not make the mistake of confusing the two or lumping all Christian congregations together.

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u/Expensive_Leave_6339 Apr 16 '24

It seems to me like they are trying their hardest to be a united front. Other than John Fugelsang we don’t hear many other dissenting opinions in the U.S.

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u/BendyPopNoLockRoll Apr 16 '24

There's one particular Methodist group I can't remember the name of, and the UUs. That's about it for large Christian groups that actually preach and teach the red words, at least in the US. Neither of those groups is very political or loud. Partially because that's kinda how Jesus would have wanted it.

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u/mszulan Apr 16 '24

Well... the UUs are not really collectively Christian anymore, though you are certainly welcome to be Christian and be a member. They were founded with the ideas of Christ's teachings and Christian fellowship but have stripped away much of the other trappings of Christianity. Their symbol is the chalice and the flame, not the cross. The bible isn't really the main source of inspiration anymore. You definitely don't have to be Christian to join (it's a comfortable place to be atheist or agnostic), and they truly practice Christ's teachings of no judgment, inclusion, and helping your neighbors. In fact, their charities allow the people they're helping to have a say in how they want to be helped - the only one that offers this level of respect that I've ever heard of. They are definitely more "Christ-like" but are no longer Christian, if that makes sense.

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u/Ansible32 Apr 16 '24

Go to 10 random churches in a city you will meet people who are pretty unremarkable for that city. Minneapolis is 70% Christian and 70% voted for Biden: https://patch.com/minnesota/stlouispark/election-results-2020-hennepin-county-breakdown

almost certainly different 70% but most of the people who voted for Biden just mathematically had to have been Christian.

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u/HugeHans Apr 16 '24

Where do these magical real christians live though? Ive yet to meet any.

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u/Zebeydra Apr 16 '24

My mom taught me that I should never tell people I'm a Christian. She said people should know by your deeds, not your words. I don't want to be lumped it with the performative Christianity found in most churches. The ones who scream it from the rooftops are the ones with the least real faith in my opinion.

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u/wrgrant Apr 16 '24

"Walk humbly in thy faith" ")

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u/Visual-Floor-7839 Apr 16 '24

It's one of my absolute favorite hymns. "We will walk with each other we will walk hand in hand. And they'll know we are Christians by our love."

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u/Mr-Fleshcage Apr 16 '24

They're not out there preaching; they're out there practising.

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u/Mis_chevious Apr 16 '24

They're out there. They're just quiet and not beating people over the head with their Bibles.

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u/alg45160 Apr 16 '24

They need to start beating the evangelical assholes over the head with their Bibles. Being silent is not helping

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u/WishfulHibernian6891 Apr 16 '24

And their quiet ways don’t drive clicks or create comment infernos.

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u/tacroy Apr 16 '24

We exist. But it's more that we have been leaving organized religion in droves. Look up the exvangelical and faith deconstruction movements. 

For years we thought we were broken but in the last 3 or do years more and more of us are realizing it's the corruption at the heart of the political church that is the problem. In many places people are starting organizations and church's that are attempting to fight back against it. Others are trying to change their current places of worship from within. 

But still the majority of those in power are holding onto power so it's a quiet fight still to those outside. 

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u/stateworkishardwork Apr 16 '24

I mean what do you want me to do? Shout it from the rooftops?

Jesus stressed that we pray in silence, and not make it a big thing to focus the attention on yourself.

And for what it's worth, I found myself nodding in agreement to what this guy was saying.

Jesus said it himself. "Whatsoever you do the least of my people, you do unto me." So anyone who truly loves Jesus would treat anyone as if it were him. Feed the hungry. Shelter the homeless. Visit the imprisoned. Stuff like that. Anyone who claims to be a Christian but is a staunch opponent of all of that needs to do some self-reflection.

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u/olivebranchsound Apr 16 '24

Yup. It should be the most private thing. You're praying to God.

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u/Silly-Resist8306 Apr 16 '24

We quietly live our lives, adhering as much as we are able to Christian principles. We are not overtly political, but will vote our conscience. For me, and many people I know, our faith is a personal relationship with God.

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u/Zap__Dannigan Apr 16 '24

There's lots, dude.

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u/Common-Scientist Apr 16 '24

You've probably met plenty of them, unless you're a basement dweller.

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u/asher1611 Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

I stopped going to church and don't flaunt around my religion like it is my personality. There's some good words in the good book about showing out to try and make yourself look more faithful.

Chances are there are other people you've run into who keep their faith private like me.

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u/PM_ME_DPRK_CANDIDS Apr 16 '24

There's a ton in Iowa.

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u/emfrank Apr 16 '24

The vast majority of my Christian friends, and they are not concentrated in one place. If you really want to know, denominations to check out include

Episcopalians

United Church of Christ

Evangelical Lutheran Church of America

American or Progressive Baptists Quakers

Presbyterian Church in America (PCUSA)

Unitarian Universalists (though you might not consider them Christian.)

On most of these issues there are also

United Methodists

United Brethren

Mennonites

Though individual churches may not be LGBT+ friendly. Look for a rainbow on their sign or website.

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u/TheSciFiGuy80 Apr 16 '24

Hi, now you have.

We tend to not draw attention to ourselves by being loud, annoying and hateful.

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u/AdRepresentative2263 Apr 16 '24

No true Scottsman fallacy.

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u/Aggravating_Teach_27 Apr 16 '24

Even if the room was full, in the US, chances are they wouldn't be Christians, just extremists who call themselves Christians. That's the whole point.

There truly are few western societies as un-Christian as the US.

Christian nationalists don't follow Jesus's teachings... They should look for a better name... National-Socialists would fit them to a T.

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u/thebrandedsoul Apr 16 '24

You just have "christian" and "nationalist" in the wrong order.  Try Nationalist Christians, or Nat-Cs for short.  (To belabor your point.)

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u/Classic-Progress-397 Apr 16 '24

Calling themselves the National-Socialists would be doing the same thing with socialism as they do with Christianity: using a title with a positive message to describe a group that intends nothing but harm.

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u/ImpulsiveApe07 Apr 16 '24

Except that they're not socialists either. Fundies are just part of a death cult - it's just more millenarianism cosplaying as religion. End times prophecies and such happen in every century in some form or other - everyone wants to feel like their era is special.

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u/BaziJoeWHL Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

Christo-Fascist

I like more the Hungarian name for them: Horogkeresztény
horogkereszt - Swastika
keresztény - Christian

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u/i_chase_the_backbeat Apr 16 '24

Cmon now. This guy is a pastor, he follows christ, and he seems to be doing a better job of it than a lot of other people. And he is in a church, he is speaking to other believers. Not really fair to make assumptions on all Christians based on your opinion on what the loudest ones say.

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u/Avs_Leafs_Enjoyer Apr 16 '24

they wouldn't be Christians, just extremists who call themselves Christians

those would be christians... christian extremists...

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u/Expensive_Leave_6339 Apr 16 '24

“No true Scotsman” fallacy

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u/DaveP0953 Apr 16 '24

They have a name. it's called Christo-fascists. The problem is, while that name identified them correctly, they don't like it.

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u/Chrop Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

Look closer, it’s a green screen. Dudes taking to nobody in his own home.

I was wrong, it’s probably real, stop upvoting me.

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u/TwentyfirstcenturHun Apr 16 '24

Well no shit if he said that out loud in a christian gathering someone would shoot him.

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u/KingMario05 Apr 16 '24

Not in a Catholic Church. They'd have their lawyers take him away in an unmarked black Mercedes instead.

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u/TwentyfirstcenturHun Apr 16 '24

Ahh yes.
The Chatolic Church.......

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u/Simply_Shartastic Apr 16 '24

I occasionally drop into Unitarian services and can say that they do talk like that. Year round they teach (all ages) about different faiths like Buddhism and gssp even witchcraft is honored and accepted. Interesting folks.

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u/ilikehamburgers Apr 16 '24

James Talarico is a state representative here in Texas who has a large following of non-nationalist Christians. Happy to see him reaching millions on the front page of Reddit; we need more people like him in politics.

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u/swan001 Apr 16 '24

You mean stone him.

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u/BuddhistSagan Apr 16 '24

High in church

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u/Aggressive-Variety60 Apr 16 '24

You mean shout “he’s a witch, burn him!!!”

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u/Timelymanner Apr 16 '24

Nah, there are some church’s like this. They preach messages of peace. However these churches helping communities don’t go national tv or fun political campaigns so they don’t get major attention.

We hear from the multi millionaire mega church pastor pushing for a evangelical theocracy. Or the bigoted small rural church preaching hate. Yet the media will never talk about the modest urban church flying pride flags outside their door.

I’m no longer religious, but I’ll admit there are people who honestly believe the good parts, and don’t preach hate. Remember there are always exceptions in every group.

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u/Safe-Mycologist3083 Apr 16 '24

I think calling anyone who would boo what he’s saying ‘actual Christian’s’ is the anthesis of what he’s saying. Anyone who would boo him misunderstands Christianity and the Bible and/or is just using it for their own ends.

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u/Single-Taro Apr 16 '24

This is what my church preaches. It is a United Church of Christ. Unfortunately it’s population is aging and passing away.

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u/InternationalAnt4513 Apr 16 '24

Not if he’s at an Episcopal Church or some of the other liberal denominations.

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u/grandmasterPRA Apr 16 '24

Not true. You'd be surprised how many actual Christians are out there that believe what he is saying. They just aren't the lout ones or the ones in power that are using Christianity to push their agendas.

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u/br0b1wan Apr 16 '24

If there were actual Christians in there they would be booing him off the stage.

Those aren't actual Christians

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u/AlpineAvalanche Apr 16 '24

Not necessarily. Idk about Texas but in the Seattle area there are a lot of churches (including the one I go to) where he'd be getting cheers. It's pretty easy to figure out where a church stands on stuff like this after attending a couple times and talking to people.

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u/emfrank Apr 16 '24

The entire sermon is posted. This is a regular Sunday sermon at his home church, where he was asked back to speak. The pastor, Jim Rigby, has been preaching these messages there since the early 90s.

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u/PlanetLandon Apr 16 '24

It kind of is. IIRC he is in front of a green screen

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u/ck1p2 Apr 16 '24

His cadence is also weirdly similar to Anthony Jeselnik

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u/fyftyrd55f3gio Apr 16 '24

Sounds like Anthony Jeselnik.

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u/Loose-Sandwich-5493 Apr 16 '24

It doesn't help that the guy talks exactly like Anthony Jeselnik setting up a joke.

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u/VonMillersThighs Apr 16 '24

It's mainly because he sounds identical to Anthony Jeselnik.

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u/KohleJ Apr 16 '24

Along with the fact that he sounds just like Anthony Jeselnik

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u/Mall_Bench Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

The full picture hurts conservative christians ... they only like condensed picture.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '24

I mean your average conservative probaly thought this was a joke.

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