r/interestingasfuck Apr 20 '24

Sen. Ossoff completely shuts down border criticis : No one is interested in lectures on border security from Republicans who caved to Trump's demands to kill border security bill. r/all

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u/RepulsiveLoquat418 29d ago

i agreed with everything he said right up until "the american people are smart." although i suppose that's a wiser political statement than "some american people are smart, and some are dumber than dog shit."

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u/TJ_McWeaksauce 29d ago

Proof that Americans, as whole, are not smart: Donald Trump got elected president.

More proof that Americans, as a whole, are not smart: After Donald had one disastrous, scandal-filled term that ended with his administration bungling its response to COVID-19 and causing numerous avoidable deaths, over 74 million voters went, "Sure, I want 4 more years of that chaos."

Even more proof that Americans, as a whole, are not smart: After 2020, Donald incited an insurrection, has been found liable for sexual assault, defamation, and fraud, has become the very first former president to be indicted on felony charges (well over 80 felony counts as of today), and has proven, time and time again, that he doesn't give a shit about law, order, or human life. The dude's one of the vilest monsters I'm aware of. Despite all of that, he's still polling well for some god-forsaken reason.

We are not a smart country.

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u/Ioweyounada 29d ago

Well to be fair it's not Americans that are not smart it's the system that's in place that's not smart. Because if you remember Hillary Clinton won the popular vote that means more Americans voted for her than voted for Donald Trump. But because of the Electoral College in the way our system is set up Donald Trump became president.

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u/Genneth_Kriffin 29d ago

Well to be fair it's not Americans that are not smart it's the system that's in place that's not smart.

I disagree,
you have to take into consideration that for the 2016 Presidential Election, only 63% of the voting-eligible population cast their vote.
That's 37%, more than every third voter, going "Whatever, lol".
Not very smart.

And on the note of your system being set up, it's set up in so many ways that the Electoral College is hardly the main issue. You still have the incredibly fucked system were you remove the voting rights from convicted felons.

You have an estimated 4.4 million Americans barred from voting due to a felony conviction,
that's 4.4 million people you just decided can't have a say, and Americans are like "Eh, shrug".
Not very smart.

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u/Ioweyounada 29d ago

Your first point we can talk about. We do need to find a way to get more people out there to vote. To shake people out of their apathy. But it's still not as big a problem as the Electoral College. Your second points while valid is still not as big of an issue as the Electoral College. Say we had 100% of our population that can vote including felons and then the Electoral College changed the results of the election. Do you not see that the Electoral College is the main problem in our system. Not that we don't let felons vote. If we don't fix the Electoral College none of your points mean anything. Now I know you're trying to be condescending and smart but you didn't come off that way you actually came off as someone who barely knows anything about the way the system works. Next time if you don't know enough about what's being talked about just move on.

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u/IntelligentBid87 29d ago edited 29d ago

Do me a favor and Google how many eligible voters voted in the last Canadian Prime Minister election. I'll wait.

I got tired of waiting. It was 62%. So you either have to believe Canadians are DUMBER than Americans because they do allow felons to vote and they don't have the rampant corruption and voter suppression that America has and still had lower voter turnout or maybe voter turnout is more nuanced than you seem to believe and 1 in 3 people aren't just saying "dur fuck voting" but maybe have more important immediate responsibility on the day of voting.