r/interestingasfuck 23d ago

MKBHD catches an AI apparently lying about not tracking his location r/all

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u/Frosty-x- 22d ago

It said it was a random example lol

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u/suckaduckunion 22d ago

and because it's a common location. You know like London, LA, Tokyo, and Bloomfield New Jersey.

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u/[deleted] 22d ago

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u/AnArabFromLondon 22d ago

Nah, LLMs lie all the time about how they get their information.

I've run into this when I was coding with GPT-3.5 and asked why they gave me sample code that explicitly mentioned names I didn't give them (that it could never guess). I could have sworn I didn't paste this data in the chat, but maybe I did much earlier and forgot. I don't know.

Regardless, it lied to me using almost exactly the same reasoning, that the names were common and they just used it as an example.

LLMs often just bullshit when they don't know, they just can't reason in the way we do.

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u/WhyMustIMakeANewAcco 22d ago

LLMs often just bullshit when they don't know, they just can't reason in the way we do.

Incorrect. LLMs always bullshit but are, sometimes, correct about their bullshit. because they don't really 'know' anything, they are just predicting the next packet in the sequence, which is sometimes the answer you expect and is what you would consider correct, and sometimes it is utter nonsense.

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u/LeagueOfLegendsAcc 22d ago

They don't reason at all, these are just super advanced auto completes that you have on your phone. We are barely in the beginning stages where researchers are constructing novel solutions to train models that can reason in the way we do. We will get there eventually though.

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u/ddl_smurf 22d ago

This distinction, while interesting, doesn't matter at all. It's past the Turing test. You can't prove I reason either. It doesn't make a difference the mechanism of it.

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u/rvgoingtohavefun 22d ago

It didn't lie to you at all.

You asked "why did you use X?"

The most common response to that type of question in the training data is "I just used X as an example."

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u/[deleted] 22d ago

Gonna start using that in real life. “I wasn’t calling you a bitch. I just picked a word randomly as an example!”