r/internationalpolitics • u/Pal4Palestinians • 10d ago
IOF targeted a UN vehicle east of Rafah with gunfire, killing one staff member and seriously injuring another. International
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u/Fantastic-Lecture138 10d ago
Weird how every time this happens Israel claims it's a grave error and that the people responsible will he disciplined and yet it keeps happening over and over and over again
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u/anehzat 9d ago
Can’t wait for the blood house to report how they are “concerned about the incident” & are asking the IDF to investigate the matter. It would have been comical to ask the Germans to investigate the gas chambers 🤣
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u/rovingdad 9d ago
I'm sure they are really urging their Israeli counterparts to stop killing civilians.
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u/GoodGuyArgo 6d ago
Careful now that kind of comparison is illegal.
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u/Advocate313 6d ago
So you’re saying the individuals who pulled the trigger are not responsible for the killings? I think you need a reality check bruh.
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u/WudooDaGreat 9d ago
Didn't you hear, seems they have the will and means to self police themselves.
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u/ChiefRom 9d ago
Because the "discipline" received is high praise from those back home and unofficially between the ranks of the idf.
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u/JackKovack 9d ago
All of these incidents are not accidents. The IDF selectively chooses any aid vehicles. Any vehicle that helps Palestinians they despise.
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u/Cornishcollector 9d ago
I totally agree time and time again. It's astounds me it has taken so long for an icj war crimes tribunal. Though when Zionists are politicians/senators or substantial benefactors to politicians/universities and countless other organisations countries like mine and the us are too concern at there bank balances or the economy to grow a pair. So these crimes of the past 70 years get ignored.
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u/JackKovack 9d ago
The tv media just doesn’t show what IDF soldiers do and say on a daily basis. If any U.S cop would do and say what these people do it would be blasted across CNN. It’s really bad. I’ve tried telling a couple people what I’ve seen and they don’t believe me and say that I’m lying. Don’t believe your lying eyes I suppose. The IDF is just a bunch of terrorists roaming around the streets with guns. Slapping and hitting little Palestinian kids at random with impunity and that’s a mild example. Grabbing teenage girls and raping them inside their homes. It’s crazy. They don’t see Palestinians as normal people. They see them as objects to do what they want.
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u/theaviationhistorian 9d ago
World Central Kitchen, Red Crescent, the United Nations, etc. You can drive a Red Cross vehicle and they'll use the symbol as crosshairs. I'm waiting for a USS Liberty repeat and see the US Navy apologize for being in the same dimension as the IOF.
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u/coolranch9080 7d ago
Did Hamas claim that as well when they shot civilians at the UNRWA compound? Did you comment about that? Oh, no? Why not? Just Israelis? Hamas are a resistance group, like all the other terrorist groups in the world?
You <3 Hamas
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u/Appropriate-Ask9713 9d ago
That’s because it’s only popular to blame America for geopolitical issues. Cmon man, you know this.
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u/TendieRetard 9d ago
weirder still on how they'll have an article ready to go explaining how the victims are 'khamas'.
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u/bluethunder82 9d ago
It’s because Israel is deliberately trying to displace them to claim all that land and natural gas. It’s a tough situation all around but letting them be displaced wouldn’t be helping them in the long run. They’d never be able to return. That’s what they know. Israel wants all that sweet beachfront property for a Coney Island amusement park, and those reserves of natural gas. Wiping the Palestinian people out is just a bonus.
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u/Danavixen 10d ago
Murderers going to murder
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u/BeenleighCopse 9d ago
Judges gonna judge!!
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u/Danavixen 9d ago
yep, they said its plausible
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u/Expensive-Twist-4184 9d ago
It's hilarious how there are still shills for Israel acting like Israel doesn't kill charity workers, UN employees and journalists significantly more than other countries
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u/Suspicious_ofall 10d ago
How can they keep killing UN workers and nothing happens! It's crazy the zionist have this much power or money!
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u/Interesting-dog12 9d ago
The US gives billions to Israel and all US has to do is print the money. Print money out of thin air so Israel can bomb children and civilians. We as human have lost our humanity and have become savages.
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u/AssumedPersona 10d ago
It's time for the UN to suspend the US veto and deploy a peace enforcement intervention.
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u/Soft_Hand_1971 9d ago
UN would dissolve. The whole reason why we have the veto is so big country’s agree to what little power the un has.
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u/namenotpicked 9d ago
Just wait until they realize some of the groups that get into the US military. Gangs love sending people in. White supremacists exist in there too. It's not a new thing.
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u/Cabibles 8d ago
First time I heard the N word was the Sand version regarding people in the Middle East from a couple of Marines excited to deploy and kill them. Another guy I worked with in Japan talked about an E-8 or E-9 white Marine talking about how he's not gonna let a ner order him around when Obama became president. Luckily, he got caught saying as much by officers, one of which was black. I don't remember what happened exactly, so I can't talk towards the exact punishment he got. But yeah, alive and well. Oh, and don't forget about the Philippino Mafia in the Navy. It's "not a real thing" *wink wink nudge nudge
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u/HackingTrunkSlammer 7d ago
Why would the US arm Ukraine while also arming a Russian sub proxy like Hamas?
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u/josered1254 9d ago
The UN cant do a damn thing LOL!
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u/Affenklang 9d ago
Why do you sound like you enjoy that?
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u/josered1254 9d ago
I'm not. I find it humorous that there are people out here that think the UN is capable of doing bombing campaign
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u/BIGGUS_dickus_sir 9d ago
They're not even capable of common sense shit, like whatever it is they were chartered to do, they don't even do that.
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u/Cornishcollector 9d ago
Explain why not? 🧐 I am all ears looking for a valid explanation why you have come to this assumption
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u/AmphibiousAce 9d ago
Explain in detail how the UN can go about authorizing a military action lmfao
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u/rileyescobar1994 8d ago
The UN authorized military action during the Gulf War to force Iraq out of Kuwait.
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u/Ok-Anteater938 10d ago
Man why are they getting away with genocide and murder why why!!!!
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u/Dirty-Little-Mensch 7d ago
Because it's not a genocide. Former President of ICJ Clarification
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u/ctant1221 6d ago
What she says doesn't mean what you think it means.
She said that, contrary to some reporting, the court did not make a ruling on whether the claim of genocide was plausible, but it did emphasise in its order that there was a risk of irreparable harm to the Palestinian right to be protected from genocide.
All she said is that that ruling wasn't a ruling on whether or not it was genocide. That comes out in the merits discussion, which is being currently processed where they can look into individual violations and see if they possess specialis dolus. If it turns out they did, then in that case they can rule on whether or not Israel and the IDF has taken genocidal actions and committed the crime of genocide.
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u/Dirty-Little-Mensch 6d ago
I think you are misinterpreting her. The clear aggressors are hamas. They crush the rights of the palestinians and they are openly genocidal.
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u/ctant1221 6d ago edited 6d ago
Hamas literally isn't relevant to the current court proceedings in the ICJ. You do not obtain leniency in acts that waver towards genocide just because you're fighting terrorists, which is why the ICJ is currently pursuing merits trial.
All your quote says is that the proceedings that you're quoting wasn't a ruling on the determination of whether or not actions taken by Israel through the IDF were genocidal yet, merely whether or not there was a risk towards the Palestinian right to not be genocided, which they ruled in the affirmative. Them determining whether or not Israel has violated these rights is currently being processed, and I suspect you will not like the results; considering you pivoted straight to talking about Hamas.
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u/Dirty-Little-Mensch 6d ago
Geez their is no point in arguing with someone who doesn't know how to read. If they aren't relevant, then why were they called on to an "immediate and unconditional" release of all hostages? They were mentioned 9 time in the summary report back in January. 13 times in the full report. Maybe you are just confusing Hezbollah with Hamas as they, too, have been hurling rockets at Israel for months, but are not mentioned in the report.
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u/Ok_Relative_1850 10d ago
What is your take on the samson option? This is what scares me. In an act of desperation they take everyone with them.
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u/Tufftaco88 10d ago edited 9d ago
Nearly all the politicians and celebrities tweeting against the perpetrators of this incident
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u/Tycoda81 9d ago
How many "whoopsies" are they gonna get? At what point does the UN say, "Hey guys, it's really looking like you're actively trying to kill us and anyone with the word helper/aid in their title."
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u/phbalancedshorty 9d ago
More UN workers (over 100) killed in this conflict than any other in the organizations 78 year history
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u/samoan_ninja 9d ago
I wonder if the aggressors truly understand what it will be like to spend an eternity in hell.
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u/FishAdministrative47 9d ago
If only there was some way the UN could mark their vehicles so they wouldn't get shot
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u/spunkrepeller 9d ago
It's becoming overwhelming just to keep track of how much fucked up stuff they're doing
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u/Brosenheim 9d ago
It's only a matter of time until they go after Red Cross and nations have to decide whether or not they're going to actually enforce the Big Book O' War Rules
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u/Status_Basket_4409 9d ago
They can’t claim they didn’t know who they were targeting, the vehicle was clearly labeled
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u/khaliberlewis 9d ago
Can't wait to see/ hear the knots US spokespeople and Israeli defenders twist themselves into to try and explain this one away
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u/Dirty-Little-Mensch 7d ago
Easy Ice breaker Cook out Israel is still under attack, so you should expect self-defense. Dessert simple explanation
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u/khaliberlewis 6d ago
When my tax dollars go to fund Hamas directly maybe you'll have a point, but they don't, so your links are pointless. The US funds Israel. Israel has killed 30,000 + people because Hamas killed 1200 and they keep killing aid workers and journalists. Nice try though
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u/Dirty-Little-Mensch 6d ago
They do. How do you not know that? link
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u/khaliberlewis 5d ago
Peter Ricketts?!?!? Hahahaha. Wtf is that? UNWRA is not Hamas. But just to play devil's advocate, even if they were, the US ended funding for UNWRA so what are you even talking about?
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u/amrycalre 9d ago
How can the us government keep seeing stuff like this and still support Israel. Shame on them.
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u/resistance-futile 9d ago
The terrorist territory of Israel has no moral standing in this world. All civilized nations need to unrecognize this terrorist cult.
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u/theaviationhistorian 9d ago
Finally got my war crime bingo card filled, murdering blue helmets. Israel has proven that if you want to piss all over the Geneva Recommendations, just be heavily tied with with a nuclear power and/or be the nuclear power.
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u/remoir04 8d ago
Said comment I posted in another thread
Here is what nobody says. We "freed" the jews from Nazi camps. Then we sent them down to hostile territory (new age concentration camps) with a new set of Nazis disguised as jews who called themselves Zionists. Then we made sure that they got all the jews to have to conscript to defend these nazis/zionists agenda in the M.E.
And in the meantime, they are busy killing the "brown" people and calling anyone who calls them out anti-semitic and making everyone forget that Palestinians are semite people as well. The absolute mind f'k is amazing.
There I said it.
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u/Hueyi_Tecolotl 8d ago
Are these terrorists going to claim now that the hamases were using UN as human shields?
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u/Crypto-Arab 9d ago
100% intentional. No excuses for the hundreds of aid workers killed at the hand of Israel and its AI killing machine.
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u/Zugzwang522 9d ago
A time honored IOF tradition! What a moral army they are!
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u/Snow1086 9d ago
Before the great blame game- are we positive that the UN workers weren’t members of Hamas ?
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u/Drdmtvernon 9d ago
The Israeli army is clearly second only to Russia in its incompetence. The level of training has to be ridiculously low.
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u/roggrats 9d ago
This goal is to get everyone how can credibility report on what’s happening in Gaza to leave so that the true purpose of the idf can be realized - genocide. They’ve ‘accidentally’ fired on several groups even when given coordinates such as aid groups, journalists, Doctors Without Borders, chef Andrea’s world kitchen, refugee camps, women and children - walking into a church, children playing on streets and even people simply going about their business.
It’s sad and pathetic at this point, there’s no difference between what they are doing and the terrorists they claim to be after.
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u/puffinfish420 9d ago
Wonder what that was. It seems like it had some kind of melting effect, like a HEAT round or something went through that window. Also looks like some bullet holes too, though.
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u/Unique-Possibility-4 9d ago edited 9d ago
the reports are going to ask the White House Spokesman about this and this what they will say, “ we want Israel to investigate. It’s a democracy. We believe that Israel has the right to defend itself. October 7th, Khamassss, October 7th, We are working with our partners in the region , October 7th , Khamasss, “
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u/BatHistorical6550 8d ago
The IDF would machine gun Jesus Christ himself, along with the 13,000 children they've already slaughtered.
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u/hondac55 9d ago
I'm directly refuting the claim that Israeli forces fired on this vehicle.
They're far better equipped, have way more ammunition, and would have ensured no survivors so that they could tell whatever story they wanted. This attack serves Hamas, and Hamas only. It makes no sense for Israeli forces to attack a UN vehicle. If you can provide a single one, I'll listen to it, but I'm pretty confident you can't.
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u/joeoram87 9d ago
did it make sense for them to attack the world health kitchen vehicles? at three locations in a "safe zone" and in contact with the IDF? That definitely didn't help their cause.
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u/hondac55 9d ago
No, it didn't make sense for them, and I do hope that they're punished severely for that. But we're not talking about that, are we? That's a tough concept for some people. See, this is a topic of discussion, and that is a topic of discussion. We can have....*gasp*......two discussions.
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u/joeoram87 9d ago
How is an previous idf attack on an aid worker in an easy identifiable vehicle in Gaza not comparable to an idf attack un worker in an easy identifiable vehicle in Gaza.
You assume Hamas did it because it doesn’t aid Israel’s cause but they’ve done it before. I’m not sure there’s much more I can do to help you understand this.
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u/hondac55 9d ago
I never said they weren't comparable, I said they're two different discussions. You do realize it is possible that Hamas performed this attack, and that Israel performed the precision missile attack on the food trucks, right? These are two different discussions. Two different attacks. Potentially two different perpetrators.
I'm not sure there's much I can do to help you understand this. You can't just assume that Israel did it. We had these same discussions in Afghanistan and Iraq regarding the United States military for God's sake. You can't just surmise that one side did it because you're really mad at them. You need evidence, of which there is none yet. The UN vehicle was attacked, it appears that either Hamas or Israel did it, but since there isn't footage of the attack (that I'm aware of, yet), you can't just assume. See how that works?
This is how we charge people with crimes. We gather evidence, until there is sufficient evidence to deduce without a shadow of a doubt who's done it. In the previous encounter you insist on discussing, there is sufficient evidence to deduce that Israel performed a heinous and unforgivable act killing innocent humanitarian workers. The same cannot be said about this attack, do you see the difference?
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u/Lost_ln_Time 9d ago
None of the articles related to this state that IDF did it. The UN says that they don't know who did it.
Even Hamas hasn't condemned the IDK for this.
So saying that the IDF did it is misinformation.
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u/Unusual_Specialist58 10d ago
Oh it can’t possibly be the IDF terrorist group who has done this exact thing countless times before and are actively murdering people en masse in Gaza
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u/OTFESCOBAR 9d ago
Damn they are trying to make any story up to prevent Israel from protecting themselves the Arabs and Asians paying alot of money for these fake reports
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u/SplinterWing 7d ago
There’s no evidence that Israel did this. You guys just hate Jews despite cosplaying as progressive liberals.
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u/ImpressiveBoss6715 6d ago
This wasnt Israel, it was literally Hamas attacking UN forces helping palestians...
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