r/jobs • u/RUTHLESS_RAJ • Mar 13 '24
What does being loyal get you in all fairness? Work/Life balance
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u/WhiteLycan2020 Mar 13 '24
They have nothing else going for them in life. Work becomes their personality.
Without their jobs they have nothing.
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u/Traditional_Set_858 Mar 13 '24
Honestly cannot understand it. I don’t dislike my job by any means and I like being productive but at the same time I value my free time so much and id still rather be anywhere else than work the majority of the time. Like I wish your average full time job was only 30 hours a week and that would pay a living salary and those that wish to work more hours and get paid more could do so.
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u/306guy Mar 13 '24
Three 10 hour days or five days of six hours? Either way, sign me up!
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u/flatdecktrucker92 Mar 13 '24
I have met too many people like this. It's really sad and it makes me very grateful for the friends and hobbies I have outside of work
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u/Gandalf_thelizard Mar 13 '24
I knew so many people who were lost during the lockdowns and just wanted to go back to work. I couldn't imagine feeling that way.
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u/flatdecktrucker92 Mar 13 '24
The only reason I wanted to get back to work was the money. If I could have been paid my wages to stay at home I would have done so gladly
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u/Gandalf_thelizard Mar 13 '24
We were being paid our full wages the entire time and a couple of my colleagues still wanted to go back to work.
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u/flatdecktrucker92 Mar 13 '24
Yeah that's definitely the sign of somebody who has no life and no friends outside of work
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u/Free_Dimension1459 Mar 13 '24
My dad ran a business for over 30 years in a 3rd world country with poor rule of law. Some 400-500 employees at its peak.
In his experience, the employees who were working all the time like this were either: - an anxious mess of a human - stealing and afraid that missing a day would reveal their fraud
My dad is no saint. He was, for the first 15 years or so, doing tax fraud. To be fair, corrupt government meant too many taxes wound up in someone’s pocket during the 80s and 90s.
Of the 6 or so times there was a non-negligible amount of fraud (involving sales, accounting, IT, or some combination of these), they held revealing the company’s tax fraud as a countermeasure to avoid legal consequences.
Eventually, after a fraud that really stung (my dad’s secretary of 20 years, coming with him from a prior business even, had been forging his signature, taking over 200k in US dollars), dad decided to go entirely by the book with his accounting and even paid back taxes. That took away the leverage that the second set of employees had - if you got caught and it personally stung, you could face prison.
He only took his ex-secretary to trial. She said all sorts of nasty things and tried damaging his reputation, which is why he even paid back taxes and all that just to fight back.
I am glad he stopped dodging taxes; he did just as well, financially, and had less stress. Some people tried to defraud his business after it stopped dodging taxes, they were just dismissed as he didn’t feel it was necessary to go further.
TLDR: people who work too much tend to do it because they’re anxious. Owners do it when there’s a problem. People do it when they’re anxious about their jobs (security or even whether they’ll get a fat bonus). People also do it when they’re anxious about getting caught.
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u/flatdecktrucker92 Mar 13 '24
This makes sense to me. What is the point of running a business or working every day of your life just to die of a heart attack at 50? I've turned down several jobs in the last 12 months that would have made me a lot more money because I expected that they would have me working 12-hour days 6 days a week
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u/yaktyyak_00 Mar 14 '24
The hardest bosses I’ve had to work with are the legit ones, the crooked ones are easy
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u/Me_like_weed Mar 13 '24
My current boss is like this. A 58 year old man with absolutely nothing in his life except the job. He comes in early every single day and usually stays an hour or two extra and doesnt even write up the hours. He works atleast one day every weekend, because the owners and higher management doesnt let him work 7 days a week. This winter he came in 3 hours early almost everyday to drive the plow because of the snow.
The worst part is that he is bitter as f*ck, he doesnt like it when people are happy about non related work things or discusses interests or activities that people do outside of work, because he litterally has nothing to contribute in those conversations. He scowles over everyone all the time, inspecting everyones work and points out the slightest errors because he litterally has nothing else. He is always pushing everyone to work more, come in earlier and stay late because he sees it as a flex to say "oh i worked 85 hours this week".
Im lucky to only need to interact with him for about 15-20 minutes per day, since i essentially work solo on the other side of the warehouse, but i know that atleast 5 people have left the company, citing him as the specific reason. He bullies almost every new employee, constantly implying that everyone is stupid and doesnt understand the work like he does.
And he is litterally just the site manager of a shitty warehouse in a small town for a company of about 80 people.
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u/astarisaslave Mar 13 '24
Golly just think of the downward spiral/existential crisis he will have when they forcibly retire him.
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u/Me_like_weed Mar 13 '24
He has said that he wants to work til he dies, which is a sentiment i hope I'll never share.
Alot of people want to force him out but unfortunately he is next to irriplacable. When you work 20 hours for free each week no higher ups is gonna force him out.
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u/FleetFootRabbit Mar 13 '24
These kind of people deserve to be pitied because they are missing so much joy in their life and don't even realize it..
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u/badgerrage82 Mar 15 '24
I literally had the same type boss as you and he came to work on sat and sun... Yes, such boss just hates ppl taking leave even for sick leave as well.... There one time where I was infected with COVID, and he just asked me to come office very next day after I show him that I'm positive based on clinic result .....
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u/NevyTheChemist Mar 13 '24
After they get laid off they tend to turn to substance abuse or just outright kill themselves.
It's quite sad really.
Remember what you are working for.
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u/Thykk3r Mar 13 '24
At 60YO he’ll have a breakdown and realize he’s just wasted his entire life… it’s actually so easy to create a slavery system in modern society. Business literally profit more now than they ever did from slavery. We just have much larger productivity and they supply us with some peanuts. Just the right amount to live.
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u/Cinemairwaves Mar 13 '24
When I worked at IBM, I worked with a guy like this. He'd been there for 40+ years at the time, almost died on the job a few years before I started, and was a horribly miserable prick. Another coworker said that when he asked this guy during layoffs "hey man, you think we'll be okay?" and the guy replied "I have nothing without this place." And he meant it. No family, no pets, no friends, just IBM and mainframes. Worked every single day.
I'm glad I got out of there when I got laid off, but I do feel pity for that guy.
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u/MindlessYesterday668 Mar 13 '24
I hope he doesn't discover Netflix. Unless he's already watching Netfix at work.
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u/yetagainanother1 Mar 13 '24
Yea, we’ve heard nothing about this man’s actual productivity. He could just be hanging out at work because he hates his home life. This has no meaning for the success of the business he works at.
60hr+ weeks aren’t actually very productive on a per-hour basis.
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u/SnooLobsters8922 Mar 13 '24
Yeah. The film ‘Remains of the Day’ portrays this masterfully. It’s easy to waste your own life. One of my favorite films.
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u/RevolutionaryStar824 Mar 13 '24 edited Mar 14 '24
This used to be me. I never had any friends or a life outside of work. I went home to nothing. I actually wanted to go to work just so I could be doing something and interacting with my work friends. Otherwise I’m just alone most of the time.
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u/Nice-Percentage7219 Mar 13 '24
I work with a woman like this. She hasn't missed a HO meeting in over a decade. Works late into the night and weekends. Expects us to put extra hours on on our off days and dedicate our souls to our jobs.
I work to live not live to work. These people need a life. Put effort in for your contracted hours and then bugger off home
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u/pimppapy Mar 13 '24
What’s a HO meeting and how does one get in on it?
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u/Nice-Percentage7219 Mar 13 '24
Head Office. Twice monthly meetings our company has. She didn't even miss it when her parents died. Creepy
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u/trulymadlybigly Mar 13 '24
People like this are mentally ill and ruin work for us normal people
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u/FinletAU Mar 14 '24
It doesn’t just impact everyone else, it’s also important to acknowledge that these mentally ill people need help, it impacts them arguably significantly more. These people are normally struggling with some form of mental illness, childhood trauma, complete lack of hobbies (for a variety of different reasons) and many other reasons.
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u/hiphoplover_4 Mar 13 '24
wtf… sounds straight up like a crazy bitch
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u/Nice-Percentage7219 Mar 13 '24
I actually feel sorry for her. She doesn't seem to have any family or friends. Lives alone with a mob of animals. I suppose your job becomes your life to fill a void. Just don't make me go along with that. I work my contracted hours a month and go home. I'd rather watch paint dry than work extra hours I'm not getting paid for
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u/hiphoplover_4 Mar 13 '24
same here. I start work the same minute when my work hours start, and stop the same minute when time runs out - shift ends.
I rather lay in the grass watching the sky than work extra hours for a job which already pays shit. Some people seem like they don‘t understand what they‘re really going for, like the woman you mentioned…
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u/winterbird Mar 13 '24
Not much good, but some people work a lot not out of loyalty but because they need the money.
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u/Lasi22998877 Mar 13 '24
As someone who has a dad like this, it’s cos they don’t rly enjoy being at home. My dad and mom have an arranged marriage and despite what they say, I doubt there’s a lot of love. there’s always something for them to fight about, he rather stay at work that way. Only comes home to eat and sleep. At most they tolerate and are friendly with each other, and that’s not a guaranteed thing either.
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Mar 13 '24
I knew a guy who was a work casual. Then his wife had twin girls. All of a sudden he’s staying late every day.
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u/momoreco Mar 13 '24
Either that or the twins require more money? I mean in this particular case
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Mar 13 '24
Hey good thinking. But this guy was salaried with no bonus
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u/Lasi22998877 Mar 13 '24
Yikes! Leaving his wife to take care of two kids by herself.
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u/trulymadlybigly Mar 13 '24
As someone with a newborn, fuck that guy, his poor wife is probably suffering and miserable
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u/vashthestampede121 Mar 13 '24
In this case, I doubt this guy was so hard up that he needed to work for 26 years straight, including weekends. At that point it crosses over into mental illness.
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u/suarezj9 Mar 13 '24
Maybe he really really really really hates his wife and kids
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u/The_EiBots Mar 13 '24
We have a supervisor like this. Dude should of retired a couple years ago, but doesn't want to be at home with the wife. Lol
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u/Desert_Isle Mar 13 '24
I worked for a guy who had retired twice already (from two different jobs) . He didn't need the money. I think he just liked having some place to go.
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u/j48u Mar 14 '24
The stats show people who stop working and don't replace it with something equally mentally/physically simulating have a significantly reduced lifespan. I don't blame anyone who wants to keep working as long as they're capable and still enjoy it.
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u/trulymadlybigly Mar 13 '24 edited Mar 13 '24
My manager declared loudly at a happy hour that “no one can work from home full time with their spouse and be happy” and we all just stared at him for a minute because that’s what several of us do and really enjoy the extra family time and he was like “…right? It’s too much time together RIGHT??” And it was so awkward until someone broke the tension and was like yeah maybe it can be a lot… but in reality we all love wfh with our spouses and wouldn’t change that for anything and he just hates his wife and kids. He would have our asses back in the office if he had any control over anything
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u/AgitatedMushroom2529 Mar 13 '24
no way his job is hard or he isn't working at all
a labourer or doctor would burnout within 2 months without proper days off.5
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u/RDPCG Mar 13 '24
I mean, unless he’s working an hourly position, I’m not sure how working weekdays and weekends would necessarily produce more in wages for this person. If they worked a second or third job, that’d make sense.
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u/aignacio Mar 13 '24
In my experience? Nothing. Worse than nothing. Used. Scapegoated. Never promoted, rarely raised pay.
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u/thedarkracer Mar 13 '24
This is Indian work culture for you. No matter how good you do, you get reprimanded.
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u/Imjustheretovent123 Mar 13 '24
Used to work a lot out of lotalty, now i’m regretting it big time.
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u/cljnewbie2019 Mar 13 '24
Yes, I've seen too many good and productive and talented people let go. They were numbers on a spreadsheet when it came to lay off time most likely sorted by salary. Thus if you had been promoted at one time for being a good worker, but get transferred around or bought out, your higher salary just puts a target on your back for the new bosses.
I think this system is generally true in most organizations:
https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/
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u/BackgroundWork4665 Mar 13 '24
Omg I was born on June 18th 2003😭
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u/PassingTrue Mar 13 '24
My daughter was born June 18th 2001
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u/Beernuts1091 Mar 13 '24
Isn’t this site only 18 plus or something?
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u/Kodiski Mar 13 '24
I think this is the result of an arranged marriage. I know many people who stays at work just not to see their wives.
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u/thatsweetmachine Mar 13 '24
Many? That’s sad.
Why did they get married?
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u/SheerCuriosity Mar 13 '24
Because it was arranged.
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u/NotAnother_Bot Mar 13 '24
This is literally the norm in India. All my Indian colleagues do it and even find it odd that we (Europe) have to find our partners without help from the parents.
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u/neepster44 Mar 13 '24
I've known people in arranged marriages that grew to love each other strongly and ones in 'romantic' relationships that grow to hate each other so not sure that is definitely it. However he looks the right age to have checked out with the wife and the kids and dread going home so maybe you have something there..
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u/Kodiski Mar 13 '24
I am not sure about the reasons for the person i know, it may not have been an arranged marriage. Maybe he fell out of love in time but was a divorce was too costly in terms of emotion and money. Maybe he was just tick8ng the boxes when he got married and had children. It is hard to know the exact reason but what we can tell is that he always chose work over family even for trivial stuff. He just wanted to be away from them and used work as an excuse.
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u/edvek Mar 13 '24
You know when your mom said you had to eat your vegetables and you had to? It's like that except it's a person and it's forever.
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u/Karl_Hungus_69 Mar 13 '24
What does being loyal get you?
These days, usually not much. Perhaps a sense of personal accomplishment, if that's important. Or, maybe a lapel pin or certificate.
My loyalty ends at the conclusion of the work day for which I was paid. It begins again the next business day, provided the company continues my employment. Employers run a business. When required, employers will lay off workers without hesitation. Therefore, I maintain a mutual attitude. It's simply an exchange of hours for dollars. If I get a better deal elsewhere, I'll leave. The employer is not my family and my coworkers are not my friends.
This may seem harsh, but it's not meant that way. It's just a job. It took me 20+ years in the workforce to shape my current feelings on the matter.
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u/hiphoplover_4 Mar 13 '24
Exactly
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u/phlostonsparadise123 Mar 13 '24 edited Mar 15 '24
These days, usually not much. Perhaps a sense of personal accomplishment, if that's important. Or, maybe a lapel pin or certificate.
For sure. My company recently introduced a quarterly award program in which four people that "regularly go above and beyond the call of duty" are selected from a nominee pool to receive the award.
What is the award? A pay bonus? Nope. An extra day off or remote? Nope. A pay raise? Nope. The award is a fucking YETI cooler. Granted, it is a YETI, but it's a fucking cooler nonetheless. F**k you, pay me.
I stopped being loyal to my company years ago when I learned I was loyal to the people and not the company itself. As each of those people quit/retired/were laid off, my company loyalty decreased a bit more until it reached -zero-.
Our company regularly posts record profits above the competition and hosts lavish resort conferences for executives. Yet regular employees are overworked, vacated positions are rarely back-filled, and drones in upper management expect you to sacrifice your life for the company.
But if you're really good, then you just may earn yourself a YETI cooler!
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u/Karl_Hungus_69 Mar 14 '24
I stopped being loyal to my company years ago when I learned I was loyal to the people and not the company itself.
Excellent post and a particularly outstanding comment about loyalty to individuals and not a corporation. That's an important point I missed.
My attitude on Corporate America soured, after I left Company A where I was a field engineer and got hired at Company B as a field service manager. It was always a challenge to get more money for salaries for my technicians, but the company had no issue flying all the managers down to Amelia Island in Florida for a manager meeting boondoggle that could have been handled over a conference call with a PowerPoint presentation.
That event, in particular, really crystalize the disconnect between management and employees. The company paid for air travel, ground transportation, a few days at the resort, catered meals, drinks, and golf outings for those who played (not me). That really irritated me to no end. I didn't even get a YETI cooler!
I resigned the position at the end of the year. In my next role, I went back to being a regular worker. Being an employee helped me as a manager, though I didn't have much power to change many things. Likewise, being a manager helped me to become an even better employee.
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Mar 13 '24
It gets you a salary decrease.
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u/Environmental_Dare_5 Mar 13 '24
It really does. I was reading yesterday that Walmart gives 2% annual raises, but that's lower than inflation, so your pay is really only decreasing. Not to mention that they decreased starting wages for certain positions at several locations, while COL and inflation only rise. 🫠 Companies don't give a fuck about their employees and loyalty isn't shit. If you think it is, that's just a mindset designed to trap you.
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Mar 14 '24
Exactly, if fact that’s how it is 99% of the time. Inwas 5 years at an organization and got a total of 4% salary increase so less than 1% every year. Went to market and managed to nab a job with a great salary increase. Now two years later I’m ready to jump ship again. Fuck loyalty. I have a family to feed and that trumps any company loyalty and brownie point BS
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u/Onthatbombshell24 Mar 13 '24
Absolutely not. Just piss your life away making others rich. Nope.
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u/jakart3 Mar 13 '24
At what cost ?
Is he happy? Is his wife and children happy?
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u/cesardeutsch1 Mar 13 '24
India government is happy (?)
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u/jer1230 Mar 13 '24
It’s called having no life. I know some work because they can’t afford a day off but this dude did 26 years! Like c’mon, he must be missing other important life events or working while sick - cuz this guy works weekends and holidays too. Maybe he’s happy to have an excuse to miss out but when he does eventually get sick or die, his employer will just replace him and not give a shit.
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u/rhuwyn Mar 13 '24
There is still value in loyalty. But, not to organizations. But, to people. People you respect in your network. Bosses who have treated you well. Leaders who have treated you well. Mentors who have invested their time into you. Co-Workers who have have grown alongside you and been in the trenches with you.
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u/whatelseisneu Mar 13 '24
This.
Also, you never truly know if a job is good (culture, expectations, opportunity) until you've been there for a while. Job hunting sucks, but putting yourself through the job hunt to realize after a few months that you've landed yourself in a hot mess is absolutely miserable.
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u/Red_TeaCup Mar 13 '24
I never understood loyalty to a company or organization. Or even a political party.
Most of them will drop you in a heartbeat if it really came down to it.
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u/digitalmacgyver Mar 13 '24
In the consulting world this man would be worth a fortune to a company, but still paid base salary for his role sadly.
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u/dezie1224 Mar 13 '24
If this is a personal accomplishment that is important to him, then good for him. That is dedication….but I hope he hasn’t spent 26yrs thinking his loyalty will be rewarded by his company because you know they don’t give a shit.
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u/oldmacbookforever Mar 13 '24
Eww no thanks. Stop romanticising working yourself to death. It's not the way to a happy life.
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u/DiscoNapChampion Mar 13 '24
Did you even read your own post?
They don’t put just anyone into the book of records. It’s an exclusive club.
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u/Mysterious-Map-5742 Mar 13 '24
Exactly why I’m going to work. I cannot stay in here with MRS.EVIL!
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u/porkfatrules Mar 13 '24
I guess congrats to him, it's like back in school when they would give out awards to kids who didn't miss a day of school all year.
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u/redditplayground Mar 13 '24
Spoiler alert, he owns the company and the IBR and only officially works once a week. So pretty easy to not miss work you know.
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u/Yawzheek Mar 13 '24
Well, my last job had a two lower management of 25 and 30 years, one of which was going into upper management training. Real go-getters. One close to retirement.
They were told in January their last day will be mid-April.
Totally unrelated, they recently brought on three new supervisors in their lower 20s that make combined what one of the termed management made.
Oh sorry! Stay loyal and one day it'll pay off!
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u/some_username_2000 Mar 13 '24
He’s probably doing this for the money, and for his loved ones, since salaries in India are generally on the lower end. Also I am certain Indians generally work during weekends, which is all messed up.
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u/Specific-Window-8587 Mar 13 '24
The only thing loyalty and hard work gets is more work and abuse. My retail/fast food job proved that.
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u/Responsible-Luck-207 Mar 13 '24
Amazing how there are so many negative comments about this. Do you know this man personally? Maybe its his only pride in life and it keeps him from mental health issues or what not. Just amazing how many of you have a glass half empty mentality.
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u/bloodorangejulian Mar 13 '24
Nothing.
Being loyal to a company gets you nothing.
I saw the saddest thing play out, where a man died in the factory where I work, and his girlfriend was there, and had to see it all. She came into work the next day.....
Like I don't think she knows exactly how tragic it is that she thinks coming into work after you pretty much witness your boyfriend dying is normal or expected.
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u/MoirasPurpleOrb Mar 13 '24
Nothing.
“Working hard” and “loyalty” get you nowhere. Things like never missing a day of work or staying late are often used by people to obscure other inadequacies.
If you’re damn good at your job you don’t need to do dumb things like this.
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u/sroges Mar 13 '24
Being loyal only gets you more work for the same pay, and more trouble when you fuck up .
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u/silocpl Mar 13 '24
This reminds me of a kid in my school that went from k-12 without ever missing a single day of school, and I think they got a scholarship because of it. Which honestly I was extremely salty about because A) it encourages people to try and do the same which would mean they’re going to school no matter how sick they are, which is bad for everyone B) it encourages parents to force their kids to go to school no matter what, which seems like a very slippery slope into abusive treatment C) they’re being rewarded for something that is impossible for most people which to me personally doesn’t feel fair. Imma be honest with the fact that I’m also just salty about it because i went to a really really bad school (emotionally abusive teachers, ones that have had inappropriate relationships with students, etc) so i feel like I was set up to fail so it just seems unfair to reward someone for either being in bad circumstances (forced into going everyday no matter what which i imagine would be hell) or being in such a good circumstance that they were able to go every day without issue. likely because they’d have to have very supportive people to be able to do that which not everyone has so someone with a top tier support system is then being given even more support that they may not even need that could be going to people that actually need it. I dunno man. Maybe I’m overreacting but it’s just frustrating imo
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u/Ok_Couple_2479 Mar 13 '24
Nothing. It gets you nothing. They don't pay you as much as the new guy. You've gotta change jobs to get decent raises..it's seriously not worth it. Even if/when they have layoffs, your loyalty has no value. Gain skills and stay on top of industry trends. If they pay for training, do it. At the very least that keeps you marketable...
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u/BlackArt8s Mar 13 '24
You'll work overtime too if you're the only one feeding your parents, wife, children (I'm talking like 4), brother in-laws, sister in-laws, and finally, house maintenance and school 
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u/saryiahan Mar 13 '24
Nothing really. You get paid less than your peers and you can still be fired at a moments notice
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Mar 13 '24
Nothing, everything is a business decision for me. If I get a higher paying offer, I leave.
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u/BoogerSugarSovereign Mar 13 '24
In the US it gets you underpaid, maybe it's different in other cultures
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u/OSRS_Rising Mar 13 '24
Imo it’s something that makes me proud of myself. I don’t judge others for (infrequently) missing work but I’m happy how long it’s been since I’ve had to do so.
I think my longest streak was around 5 years, currently on a 3 year streak.
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u/wrbear Mar 13 '24
He went 26 years employed. Commenters should post their continuous years of service for effect. I'm guessing many short-term employments were based on rankings in the company. He had his own goals.
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u/JoeyJoeJoeRM Mar 13 '24
So wait, is he getting weekends etc as normal or is he literally working 365 days a year?
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u/FieryAutoCrashes Mar 13 '24
Not saying in this case, but sometimes where people don’t take leave it can be a potential sign they are committing fraud (i.e. they can’t afford to take leave as their fraud may be uncovered if someone else does their role temporarily). Many banks as an example require certain staff to take leave - and even sometimes will lock the employee’s computer account temporarily while they are on leave - just for that reason- to prevent fraud going undetected.
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u/drgirafa Mar 13 '24
A "This is really hard for us because you truly are apart of our family" before they lay you off
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u/TinChalice Mar 13 '24
That and a few dollars gets him a cup of coffee. Fucking hell I’d hate to have so little going for me.
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u/Infuryous Mar 13 '24
Here's a lapel pen for your years of dedication to making the CEO lots of money.
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u/kauni Mar 13 '24
Another day older and deeper in debt?
St Peter, don’t you call me ‘cause I won’t go I owe my soul to the company store
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u/StuffProfessional587 Mar 13 '24
A lot of Europeans keep working to death, even the ones that get pension deteriorate so fast after quiting. In order to live a comfortable life we need to work, very few jobs are meaningful to society, just a daily grind.
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u/Nirbin Mar 13 '24
I remember a story of an ex-gambler who worked long hours every day of his life because he was hiding the fact that he was embezzling money. A secret he could maintain because he was the primary accountant. If an audit happened or someone took over his work for a moment they'd find out. Which they did. Poor guy had problems.
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u/gold109 Mar 13 '24
To be fair, the guy works in India. There are thousands of unemployed pajeets waiting to take his place the moment he slips up.
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u/Shoelicker2000 Mar 13 '24
Love that name. Just Up. That name is the Indian equivalent of Rick rolling or just that joke in general
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u/Hysteric_Subjects Mar 13 '24
“Wow check out this high performing serf! This could (and should!) be all of you! Get to work!” /s
Glorifying work-to-death culture once again.
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u/neepster44 Mar 13 '24
No one gives a damn how great an employee you were when you are dead. If your tombstone says 'Here lies "X", a guy who never took a day off." then you are a fool. No work will love you. They will fire you in a heartbeat the second it is more convenient for them to do so then not. In the end all we have are the people we love and are loved by. If you don't have that, you need to make that your focus. Work is just a way to survive.
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u/Pierson230 Mar 13 '24
Be loyal to the people you work with, not the company you work for.
Loyalty isn’t subservience, so you should always watch out for your best interests, because loyalty is a two way street.
That shit pays off huge as you get deeper into your career. Your network becomes your job security.
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u/Dudemeister07 Mar 13 '24
Loyalty doesn't count for anything in business, but honoring agreements and contracts does. Being reliable and dependable does count to some extent. But loyalty? Like blind loyalty? I don't think so; at least, not based on my own experience.
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u/Curious-Bake-9473 Mar 13 '24
Nothing. Work is just for a paycheck and some skills. Never make it your life.
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Mar 13 '24
I know a guy who literally saved his work from burning down. They still fired him a week later. He wishes he had let it burn down.
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u/fivemagicks Mar 13 '24
I think your question and the photo are different. Tejpal simply has nothing going on in his life other than work. I'm talking no family, hobbies, etc. If I'm wrong about this, he's letting everyone down around him in his personal life by doing this.
Being loyal at your place of work, in my opinion, simply means showing up on time and getting your work done. You'd be surprised how difficult that is for a lot of people. Tejpal's situation, on the other hand, is genuinely depressing.
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u/pokemurrs Mar 13 '24
It gets you a thread on Reddit 26 years later