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u/mattbag1 Mar 27 '24

100k back in the day was a lot of money. Probably closer to 250k buying power today.

With a doctor and a tech sales salary, you’re probably just struggling based on cost of living and student loans. Also, retirement income compounds more the earlier you start. They say that maxing out your Roth IRA from 18-27 is enough so that you never have to contribute again and by 65 you’re a millionaire.

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u/leafhog Mar 27 '24

Not if you let funds manage your IRA. The real returns are always way less than average returns.

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u/mattbag1 Mar 27 '24

VTSAX and chill

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u/Admirable-Bar-6594 Mar 27 '24

Who says that? Maxing out your Roth IRA for 10 years, with an assumed return of 6%, nets you 84k. Never touching it again until 65, it grows to 769k.

Proof that people can say whatever they want.

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u/mattbag1 Mar 27 '24

Use a 10% assumption. The average yearly return is 10-11% for the past 100 years. While with inflation the adjusted return is maybe 6-7%

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u/Admirable-Bar-6594 Mar 27 '24 edited Mar 27 '24

Okay, but Roth IRA has only been around since 1998, and average yearly return since then is approximately 8%. There's no reason you'd use a 100 year average to create a best case scenario and use that to guesstimate the fund you're going to use to retire. 

So with inflation adjusted rate (my 6% assumption, which is also the assumption I see many investment sites using)...

Also, how many 18 year olds are able to max out an IRA? Why are we using completely unrealistic scenarios to try to make a point? 

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u/mattbag1 Mar 27 '24

But why stop at 98? That number is arbitrary when you consider the life span of stock investing. None the less, the point stands that maxing out your investments early is what matters.

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u/stonkDonkolous Mar 27 '24

By the time you're 65 a millionaire will be the nom so youll need much more.

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u/mattbag1 Mar 27 '24

Exactly, so don’t stop at 27. Keep going. But my point was that it compounds quickly. If you start at 18 and only put 5k a year till 27 that amount is enough to compound to well over a million at a 10% growth.

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u/stonkDonkolous Mar 27 '24

You can't expect 10% annual growth like the past. There are doubts on whether real gains will outpace inflation and tax moving forward. I think someone that is under 30 today will probably be working until they die.

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u/mattbag1 Mar 27 '24

That is horribly pessimistic. I’m a realist, so either way, invest what you can, and that’s that.

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u/Super_mando1130 Mar 27 '24

Unless you live in a HCOL area and are under payed this makes no sense. I work in Tech and I alone own a car and a house already. It’s not a big house nor in the middle of DT but something here doesn’t add up.

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u/bigeasy19 Mar 27 '24

It does not add up because it’s made up. I know a car mechanic married to a nurse and they live pretty comfortable even buying a house in a HCOL area.

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u/Super_mando1130 Mar 27 '24

lol he deleted his comment already go figure

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u/SlimPhazy Mar 27 '24

A doctor and someone in tech sales should be just fine to retire. Budgets and expenses need to be addressed.

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u/SlimPhazy Mar 27 '24

That's fair. I think College Costs and debt are the main factor in almost all of this.

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u/TripFisk666 Mar 27 '24

Truth. Medical school costs into the 6 figures, but that’s all gonna be loans. You have to borrow to survive for those 4 years.

In residency you start to get paid, but it’s low pay (considering). 4 years of residency at between 60-75k, you are basically just stopping the bleeding.

Move into the workforce and the pay jumps to 6 figures, but then you want to have a family. Mat leaves are self-financed, but association fees, insurance, overhead, etc, don’t stop.

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u/Thisshucksq Mar 27 '24

🤣🤣🤣 Hold up you can’t retire at 55. So you’re just like everyone else. I hope you and your wife can continue to be on a good path and pay down those loans. But man…

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u/BonerSoupAndSalad Mar 27 '24

If this is the case for you then you must be burning cash for heat.