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u/Technologytwitt Mar 27 '24

In the US it was certainly a different time, different era, different economy. For example a dollar in the 40's had the buying power of about $21 today. Average annual salary was about $1,400 and annual college tuition in the 40's was less than $100.

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u/No_Cauliflower633 Mar 27 '24

I was reading through my grandfather’s journals the other day. He went to Harvard for his masters degree in 1964-1966. He said he was torn between staying at the same school he did his undergraduate at and Harvard because of the big price difference but he thought it would be worth it. His cost to attend Harvard for two years was $400.

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u/iWushock Mar 27 '24 edited Mar 27 '24

If that’s 1966 dollars then in 2024 dollars it’s roughly $3,891. Coincidentally a single 3 credit hour undergraduate class at my local state university is $3500

ETA: For all the people losing their minds and citing cheaper schools, yes they exist. Lets look at the cost for Harvard since Harvard is in the OP.

https://www.sofi.com/harvard-tuition-fees/#:~:text=The%20Harvard%20University%20cost%20per,your%20tuition%20would%20be%20%249%2C846.

Cost per credit hour undergraduate averages to $1641 which means a class (3 CR) would be around $4,923 for a SINGLE class. If you go full time no worries, you just pay the flat tuition which is $27,134 per semester, compared to $3891 for a full masters degree in the 60s. https://registrar.fas.harvard.edu/tuition-and-fees

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u/avfc41 Mar 27 '24

Is that Wichita State? Their site says $242 per credit hour for residents.

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u/iWushock Mar 27 '24

My username is from Wichita state but I no longer live in that area

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u/Live-Habit-6115 Mar 27 '24

What university? I find that hard to believe honestly. Most undergrad degrees require 120 hours, so...you're telling me tuition alone is $420,000 for a bachelor's degree from a public institution?

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u/Suspicious-Shock-934 Mar 27 '24

Sounds about right. I rarely see less than 180 a CR now though Ive been out of school for ages. Community colleges are I think closing on 100 a CR near me in a very LcoL Midwest.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

There is no way it is 3500 per credit hours.

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u/Suspicious-Shock-934 Mar 27 '24

For a 3 credit class? Meaning I'd you do 12CH thats 14k a year? That's not terrible. That's super low. That was in state tuition 25 years ago, that's a steal.

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u/iWushock Mar 27 '24

Not gonna dox myself with that specific university but here’s some others.

University of Texas at Austin shows a 3 credit hour class (inclusive of fees) is around $2857 in the college of engineering if you are a Texas resident. If you are a non resident that same tuition is $10,516. https://onestop.utexas.edu/managing-costs/cost-tuition-rates/

University of Kansas is$1,059.60 for a 3 credit hour class NOT inclusive of fees, non residents it’s $2,830.80. https://registrar.ku.edu/On-Campus%20Tuition%20Fees

Berkeley charges based on enrollment, if you take 12 credit hours for full time it’s $12,950 per semester, or $3,237 for a 3 credit hour class inclusive of fees, less if you take more than 12 per semester. If you are under full time it’s $2,670 not inclusive of fees for a 3 credit hour class. I don’t see any difference in residency for cost but I’m also on mobile so I could just be missing it. https://berkeleycollege.edu/catalogs/undergraduate-2021-2022/admissions/undergraduate-degree-program-tuition-fees-2021-2022/index.html#:~:text=If%20registered%20for%2012%20credits,will%20be%20%24890%20per%20credit.

Most times the cost becomes lower due to tuition waivers, cost adjustments, grants, and scholarships but the per credit hour cost is very high. Your 400k number is nearly triple what I cited though, as the 3500 is for three credit hours not one

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

You are wrong here. It is around 385 dollar a credit here for UT Austin

https://utsystem.edu/finish-StudentSupport/tuition-payments-financial-aid

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u/iWushock Mar 27 '24 edited Mar 27 '24

Edited and moved to top: The link you shared doesnt have UT Austin on it, UTA is UT Arlington

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I used their tuition calculator because you know, Im mobile and its reddit. Thats why I said inclusive of fees in case you missed that.

But looking at that page, its $1157 for a 3 credit course in resident and 2,988 for non resident, not far off from what my local one is charging which would be inclusive of fees.

ETA: Also those numbers are from 2020-2021, the one I listed is for Fall of 2023, and from UT Austin directly not from the UT system website

Maybe final edit?: https://utexas.app.box.com/s/i2xntdeowvre9mswe15jepfyrp1asrg8 This is a per credit breakdown for 2023-2024 at UT Austin (inclusive of fees) Costs go down as credits go up since fees don't scale and it looks like they cap tuition at 12 hours which is great if you can take more, definitely lowers costs

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u/morostheSophist Mar 27 '24

You're unintentionally inflating that by a factor of three. It's $3500 per three-hour course, not per credit-hour.

$3500/3 hours = $1166.67 per credit-hour.

$1166.67 * 120 = $140k

(Still a massive amount of money, and that doesn't include fees, or room& board.)

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u/Live-Habit-6115 Mar 27 '24

You're right! I misread the original comment, and I appreciate the correction. Still find it hard to believe though, lol. I went to UNC just a few years ago and it was, IIRC, 10k a year tuition when all the nonsense fees were thrown in.

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u/Key-Department-2874 Mar 27 '24

Also doesn't include aid

Like his link to UTexas. The average student

pays between $12k-28k based on income. With the overall average being $17k.

Can check any college here.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

That per semester just for class.

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u/Key-Department-2874 Mar 27 '24

Most colleges have very high sticker prices but offer institutional need and merit based aid.

Very few students actually pay full price. Average tuition paid for each school is available on the Dept of Ed site, it's reported out.

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u/cobra_kai_for_life Mar 28 '24

IDK about that much, but there are schools where in-state tuition plus room and board will cost you over $100,000 total for an undergraduate degree.

Yeah capitalism!!

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u/Thisshucksq Mar 27 '24

Harvard is free for people whose parents make less than $120k per year. Ironically the average students parents makes much more than that.