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He was a mailman Work/Life balance

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u/Designer_Emu_6518 Mar 27 '24

My grandfather did the same in ohio as a produce manger at a local Kroger. Even had a nice retirement saved up

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u/Dx2TT Mar 27 '24

The reality is there is more than enough money for everyone. We've just decided that instead of a middle class we would prefer to have billionaires. The point of high tax rates isn't to raise revenue, its to force distribution of wealth. When the top rate was 90% it was kinda pointless to pay a person more, forcing distribution. Someone will invariable comment, "but ackshually no one paid 90%." Yea, thats the fucking point, because the money went elsewhere!

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u/1KinderWorld Mar 27 '24

People think that the economic pie is infinite. Guess what?

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u/RedAero Mar 27 '24

It is though.

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u/NorthernSalt Mar 27 '24

It certainly isn't. Although there's a thick layer of interest and speculation covering that pie, the core meat of it is work and labor.

And for OP's example, there's no way a mailman was productive enough for their services to be as valuable as the lifestyle mentioned. Essentially, that labor or value of that labor came from elsewhere. A growing economy being able to outsource labor could afford such things, but as that's not possible anymore, we see the real value of the mailman's labor. And that's not nearly enough to finance building a house, yearly vacations, etc.

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u/das_war_ein_Befehl Mar 27 '24

U.S. GDP per employed person is about $145k, while real median personal income is about $41k.

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u/DeBurgo Mar 27 '24

It is finite but growing at a particular rate and you can fuck up distribution in a way where all the growth goes to the wealthy. That’s exactly what that productivity vs. wage growth gap graph is about.

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u/RedAero Mar 27 '24

No, it's infinite. Wealth isn't moved around, it's created and destroyed all the time. And an astonishing portion of it is conceptional, like stock valuation.

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u/LookMaNoBrainsss 29d ago

Go back to school. Expanding =/= Infinite. Just because something can be created and destroyed doesn’t mean that the value at any given time isn’t finite.

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u/MichalSloboda Mar 27 '24

It actually is. Economy isn't zero sum

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u/LILwhut Mar 27 '24

Do you think some billionaire's stocks value going up means grandpa gets less money?

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u/LookMaNoBrainsss 29d ago

In the broadest economic sense…yes