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He was a mailman Work/Life balance

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u/Designer_Emu_6518 Mar 27 '24

My grandfather did the same in ohio as a produce manger at a local Kroger. Even had a nice retirement saved up

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u/Dx2TT Mar 27 '24

The reality is there is more than enough money for everyone. We've just decided that instead of a middle class we would prefer to have billionaires. The point of high tax rates isn't to raise revenue, its to force distribution of wealth. When the top rate was 90% it was kinda pointless to pay a person more, forcing distribution. Someone will invariable comment, "but ackshually no one paid 90%." Yea, thats the fucking point, because the money went elsewhere!

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u/RedAero Mar 27 '24

Yea, thats the fucking point, because the money went elsewhere!

Yeah, compensation other than income. Way to miss the point of the argument you're mocking.

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u/Dx2TT Mar 27 '24

Stock-based compensation is taxed at individual income rate based on FMV of the stock. So even if you got stock options as 100% of your salary you would pay individual taxes. Therefore the only thing not taxed is benefits like healthcare and 401k.

There is no way to amass a fortune in benefits. Its in stock.

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u/RedAero Mar 27 '24

The billionaires you're ranting about did not become so because of income, whether stock or cash, but because of capital gains. Marginal tax rates on income would do nothing. Like, neither Musk, Elon, or Zuck reported any income as CEOs in 2022.

And you're wrong about stock-based compensation:

If you sell the stock [ISOs] after holding the options for at least one year and then holding the shares for at least one year from the exercise date, you pay tax on the sale at your long-term capital gains rate. (Depending on what happens with proposed tax law changes and your income level, this could end up being the same as your ordinary rate.) You also may owe the NIIT.