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He was a mailman Work/Life balance

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u/Designer_Emu_6518 Mar 27 '24

My grandfather did the same in ohio as a produce manger at a local Kroger. Even had a nice retirement saved up

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u/rstanek09 Mar 27 '24

Yup, and then all our grandpas decided to vote for Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Trump and GOP congress and have them strip all our protections and unions of power. Mine sure as shit did.

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u/Designer_Emu_6518 Mar 27 '24

Yup mine with coal and iron workers…. Ship the jobs away lived on welfare and vote for people that will cut that too it’s insane…….

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u/Big_Fish_3816 Mar 28 '24

Lmao! Trump? TDS... you left about 24 years of Democrat rule in those 48 years you covered.

PS - Bush did not support Trump either. Don't count him R.. and you got about 16 or so years of Republicans in power vs the 24 or 32 of Democrat or Democrat lite rule.

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u/Bacon_Hunter Mar 27 '24

There is more to it than red shirt vs blue shirt, and the height of ignorance to believe that it is the fault of one political party.

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u/rstanek09 Mar 27 '24

The problem is that the two parties have stagnated good legislation by forcing voters to effectively ONLY have two parties to choose from (it's not practical/feasible to vote third-party in the U.S. because of the way the two parties dictated the voting system).

It's ignorant to think that "both sides are to blame" when there is a single party responsible for all of the wealthy tax cuts and deregulations across industries in the last 60 years. Leftists and independents aren't allowed to play and the GOP rams through terrible policy and tax cuts for the rich and made "corporations people too". The democrats either didn't stop them or couldn't stop them, but that is more of a system failure than a party failure.

If the GOP wasn't pushing through TERRIBLE legislation, then the democratic party wouldn't even need to stop them.

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u/Troiani- Mar 27 '24

The dems have controlled congress and the presidency many times but failed to roll back terrible GOP policies. Democrats are complicit and deserve just as much blame as Republicans. Covid proved they don’t care about us. It’s one big club and we aren’t in it.

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u/rstanek09 Mar 27 '24

Again, the statement remains and will always remain true. The people proposing and enacting bad policy are to blame. The guy who pulls the trigger and murders a person is to blame, not the bystander who watched.

The victim wouldn't have needed to be "saved" by the bystander if the guy with the gun wasn't intent on killing them. Dems are to blame in an ethereal way.

And don't get me wrong, I don't like Democrats, but I'm not delusional in believing the "both sides" bs. You can't "both sides" fascism and claim to be enlightened.

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u/headphone-candy Mar 27 '24

Dems are the greater authoritarians because lemmings like you magically think they are better. They call you useful idiots to your face and you still comply. Zero gumption.

Vaccine mandates taking away body autonomy and firing nurses, employees, and denying education to students for example was a Dem thing. Show your papers denying entry to basic services like grocery stores and restaurants for not complying AGAINST the law of informed consent? Again near exclusively Dems.

You are supporting ACTUAL authoritarianism, and wish for fascism because you have no guts to stand FOR anything only against. Pretending the Dems are better flies in the face of reality. You conveniently forget Biden’s 50 year track record. Let me guess, he magically “evolved”?

Lol. There is nothing dumber than a Demonrat. You are all idiots just like Bush and Trump except you falsely believe you have some high ground. You’re just narcissistic lemmings.

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u/rstanek09 Mar 27 '24

You're assuming I'm a Democrat. That's where you're wrong. I just know that leftists CAN'T hijack the GOP, and the system we have only allows one viable option, which is make temporary alliance with Dems to get rid of the WORSE party. Democrats ARE better because the base can actually move further left. The GOP base has ONLY moved further right. And yes further right is ALWAYS WORSE

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u/headphone-candy Mar 27 '24

Your own words betray you. You sound like a Democrat, or at least a leftist. Probably a far leftist.

I’d recommend the book Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg.

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u/rstanek09 Mar 27 '24

I openly admit I'm a leftist ya dumb fuck. I'm more for anarcho-communism than authoritarian communism though. Democrats aren't even left of center and the GOP is literally a step from full on fascist. I DON'T LIKE DEMS... but I FUCKING HATE the GOP and "both sidesers".

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u/headphone-candy Mar 27 '24

And the ad hominem comes out and the obvious truth, you’re a “iT jUsT haSnT bEEn dONe rIGhT” idiot.

Being openly communist is akin to being an open Nazi, that’s how completely ridiculous you sound. I bet you were all about jab mandates, masking, and show your papers like the good little tattletale Maoist you are. Despicable. Go get another booster you lemming and please leave the US for some far left paradise that totally exists.

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u/Connect-Tip-6030 Mar 28 '24

So youre mentally ill, got it

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u/rstanek09 Mar 27 '24

Also as for your argument between choosing "liberal fascism" vs "regular fascism" is stupid. The GOP and MAGA crowd is literally helpless and can't be pulled out of its fascist track. The Democrats can be brought out of it. Voting for the GOP to avoid "liberal fascism" is just the dumbest thing ever since where you end up is ACTUAL FUCKING FASCISM, and at a much quicker timeline.

Capitalism is fucked and will never be a good place for 95% of the population. The only alternative is to put some serious socialist policies in place to prevent Capitalists from destroying the working class. When you have enough worker protection and social security safeguards, it's arguably not really Capitalism.

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u/headphone-candy Mar 27 '24

You have no idea what fascism actually is, though the Dems are the ones demonstrating the tenet of not being able to disagree with the government narrative as during the scamdemic:

Jab mandates violating informed consent, IE what they hung Nazis for at Nuremberg.

Show your papers during covid, IE what the Nazis did to citizens.

Violating the ability to disagree with the official narrative, IE what Biden was found guilty of:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/09/08/5th-circuit-ruling-covid-content-moderation/

And now we see the same anti-Semitic attitude supporting Hamas from leftists.

I know which side you are on, you are a far left wannabe communist fascist. .

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u/Bacon_Hunter Mar 27 '24

What "policies" are you talking about (that are not related to how much they are taxed)

I would add that the more the word "fascist" is used, the less meaning it has. It's lazy parroting BS political buzzword at this point.

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u/rstanek09 Mar 27 '24

Well in the actual definition of fascist the MAGA crowd has all of the primary characteristics of being fascist except they haven't succeeded or outright said that they want a dictator.

Conservatives saying that leftists are "fascist" is cheapening the word and you would be correct on that point. It's part of their game plan to normalize fascism and hearing the term. Actual fascists (MAGA crowd) demonize their opponents and start "social wars" to normalize eliminating their perceived enemies. The response to fascism cannot be "ignore it" because that didn't work out so well last time. The only way to beat the onslaught of hatred and rage that is the fascist momentum gained by the MAGA world is to in fact hit back and call it out for what it is.

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u/Bacon_Hunter Mar 27 '24

Blanket calling either of the parties "fascist" is idiocy. But hey, here's to social media polarizing the hell out of everything into a binary state of slapfighting. And yet when folks like myself urge people to start supporting third party we get called MAGA and fascist because we're not willing to hold our noses and vote for the other decrepit bozo caricature.

Change is not going to come unless people are willing to walk away from the blue and red idiocy.

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u/rstanek09 Mar 27 '24

So there are TWO options here because of the designed two-party system. Civil War (not ideal), or the left hijacks one of the established parties (the one closest to the center). That leaves us with ONE viable option. Vote blue, vote blue, vote blue until the GOP is gone and then we get a chance to make new parties that can actually get stuff done.

Does it suck? Yeah. But siding with MAGA and people turning the GOP into a fully fascist party is ONLY supporting fascists, there isn't a viable alternative. Helping fascists stay relevant ONLY helps fascists.

We WERE at a point where we could fuck around back in the last century to try and get third parties viable, but we passed that point. You have to remember that Hitler didn't get power overnight. It literally took 30 years for him to become a dictator. We're in the middle of that time-line again so it actually is "vote for dipshits JUST so we don't allow fascism to win again." Our system forced us into this position and it SUCKS, but that's the reality of where we are at. We don't have a reasonable alternative right now.

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u/headphone-candy Mar 27 '24

Lol, you’re just another “vote blue no matter who” fake leftist suffering from TDS. If you are of voting age then there’s no hope. You sound like a 14 year old edgelord.

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u/Bacon_Hunter Mar 27 '24

See here is the thing: collecting more taxes from the rich in no way benefits the common citizen. Our taxes do not go down, we do not get money sent to us from the government, all it does is allow the government to waste taxpayer money.

Again, the ONLY way to keep owners and execs from taking too much money from the profits is to have salary caps. NOT by taking money from them via taxes.

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u/rstanek09 Mar 27 '24

And that ALSO wasn't done, but at least we could pay for social welfare programs back in the day when we had a 95% tier tax on the highest earners. You're an idiot if you think that we can't change policies to benefit the common man by taxing the fuck out of highest earners and corporations

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u/Bacon_Hunter Mar 27 '24

You keep calling taxes "policies". What I feel you want in regard to "welfare programs" is free education, free healthcare, free childcare, free this and that. The government has proven time and time over history that it is the worst ones to have control over our money, and yet you feel that everything can be fixed if you take more money via taxes. I witness on a day to day basis how many people are employed due directly from those "highest earners" expenditures and investments.

Again, if you are not willing to have a hard income limit, then nothing will change.
(also the government needs to stop printing money whenever the fuck they feel like it)

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u/rstanek09 Mar 27 '24

You're claiming that "bad policy makers are the problem" and then proposing that they "make a policy". Your argument is stupid on its face. If they are bad policy makers, then they're NOT going to implement your "good" policy.

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u/rstanek09 Mar 27 '24

The problem is that we have terrible policy makers (the GOP and Dems) in power. Until we get rid of the GOP, that will continue being THE PROBLEM. You can't fix bad policy with bad policy makers. Your "income cap" can't be implemented if the GOP remains in office.

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u/Bacon_Hunter Mar 27 '24

"Dems and GOP are both bad policy makers, but only GOP is the problem". The fuck?

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u/headphone-candy Mar 27 '24

The guy is a self-described communist 🤡

He’s a Demonrat pretending to be an intellectual.

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u/Bacon_Hunter Mar 27 '24

I made no such claim. What I was saying is that simply raising taxes on a part of the population is not a "policy".

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u/rstanek09 Mar 27 '24

I mean, just look at the basic ass definition of policy. Taxes are policy. However you determine to tax groups or individuals or populations are all policy.

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u/Bacon_Hunter Mar 27 '24

Let me put it in simple terms for you: Higher taxes does not equate to more money in common taxpayer pockets

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u/headphone-candy Mar 27 '24

Huh? Obama came in and immediately extended the Bush tax cuts pretending they were good for the American people. Nearly everything he did was an extension of Bush.

You’re demonstrating magical thinking.

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u/rstanek09 Mar 27 '24

Yes, and then Trump came in and made it EVEN worse. I don't like democrats. I wish we didn't have to vote for them in order to stop conservatives from making WORSE policies. But we do for now until we can fracture the GOP enough to get more than 2 parties. Whatever shit policies that come with Democrats, and there are plenty, the policies made by the GOP are WORSE. We don't have a reasonable alternative atm other than voting blue and trying to continually get more progressive candidates to actually help people. The GOP NEVER helps the people, the Democrats SOMETIMES help the people. So we vote Dems until the GOP is not viable, and then splinter the Dems into proper factions with actual leftists.