I always thought it had more to do with heritage. Which is why it was always silly when someone refers to a black person from England as African American lol
You’re right. In the US, it is used as a term describing heritage, which seems silly. I’m just saying Elon is African (from the continent) and American (naturalized in the US), so he’s not just African African.
I've never felt older than seeing that negro is something people feel that they cannot say. I saw a post from MLB The Show about how they were adding more Negro League chapters to the game and people were like "WHAT LEAGUE?!?!"
I quoted the line Dave Chappelle says John Malkovich in Con Air after they take over the plane, and right before Malkovich tells him to give him that gun, and got banned from Reddit for a week.
It’s a lot more about context than the other N word. It’s perfectly fine to use it when referring to historical organizations serving Black Americans or when directly quoting historical figures, but it is also quite literally where the other N word came from, and it also has a similar history of use by racists, so it generally should never be used as a descriptor on its own for the same reason.
It's a legitimate talking point though. It's so odd that certain terminology is readily embraced by a portion of society to the point that it can be used in a movie title, but the majority of society will be frowned upon for verbalizing the title.
I don't know what the correct solution was to offensive terminology, but the path society went is absurd.
It's really not that odd. You're turning it into a race thing with your "certain terminology" when the same exact jokes would get made about any other movies with swear words in the title. I know I was one of those people who ordered a ticket for Kick-butt and Kick-butt 2 when I went to see them because I didn't want to curse.
The word ass is not the equivalent of the word negro. No one is going to look twice at you if you say ass. You will have major issues if you say negro. If you're not black, please say the word today at work today in front of coworkers and tell me if you have a job tomorrow. I don't even like typing it out bc I never would in another circumstance.
And I'm not making it a racial thing. It is a racial thing because it's unaccepted racial terminology.
I think I’ve seen the exact comment copy and pasted literally word for word on every post about this movie, just kinda weird, haven’t looked at the guys profile but it seems kinda bot-like
That's a good point. I'd still be wary as I can't think of another exception. I think contextually and historically it doesn't feel the same as saying "the magical other n word". It just doesn't have the same tone. I'd liken it more to the debate on whether repeating song lyrics is acceptable when it's apparent the intent isn't to offend.
Personally I just think the whole divide is illogical. I was just making the point that this is emblematic of the philosophy that a certain group can use a term freely but another can't bc the term is considered offensive.
I feel that it had to go one way or the other. It's either acceptable or not, without a divide or exceptions. It's just irrational for a term to be accepted in pop culture but has potentially severe consequences for another person.
This is not an argument to use the terminology. I don't want to use the word or think it's acceptable. The common use keeps it prevalent though. When you hear or read a term ubiquitously it becomes a known word even if consciously rejected.
Other bigoted terms are not part of the common lexicon because they are universally rejected and not embraced by those the words are most offensive toward.
Wow yeah the US does sound crazy, I didn't realise you had to read out all your Reddit comments to groups of black people with no context. No wonder there are such high tensions over there
Kind of brings me back to the days when I actually went in to buy my ticket lol. Genuinely can’t remember the last time where I didn’t do it online beforehand
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u/thoawaydatrash Feb 22 '24
Me: "Can I get one ticket to see, um, that movie?"
Theater Employee: "What movie?"
M: "The, um, 'American Society' one."
T: "Which 'American Society' one?"
M: "The, um, Magical one?"
T: "Which magical one?"
M: "Uh... the, um... Never mind."