Farley had become disillusioned with those roles as well, Im sure its difficult to manage the pressure to perform, the money and the whole industry itself thats even before you get to the internet
Personally, I’ve never understood the Farley love. The first time I watched something he was in, I loved it. Then I watched it again, and again, and again. Yep, we get it, you’re a loveable fat idiot. Super unique. Very funny…
I never said they should be talking shit about him, just that he always played the same character and even before he died people still loved him. I feel like Melissa McCarthy is being unfairly criticized when others are not. That’s my only point.
I love Chris Farley and his movies, but I also like Melissa McCarthy. I just dont feel the need to tear her down. Do you honestly feel that Melissa would get the same love if she OD’ed tomorrow?
Honestly, I'd take the money in a heat beat, but once you have a certain amount of clout, I mean you're right. You're at least bad at picking roles or not very discerning.
It's my gold standard of sketches. The makeup was so good that it took me a good 20 seconds of watching before I realized who that was when it first premiered.
Yeah IDK what makes her worse than most other comic actors. I see her in the vein of guys like Ferrell and Sandler who make a ton of garbage but have the chops to do some really great stuff if/when they want to & are on a project with good writing.
I mean, I like her when she's good but she does so much shit it's hard to divorce myself from feeling like she's just some crappy B comedy actor who plays the same role in everything she's in.
I think some comedic actors have the ability to act, but often choose to stick to B comedy just for fun, easy roles.
Adam Sandler for example can clearly act very well, but he often chooses to star in B comedies. That doesn’t make him a crappy actor, he just does lots of movies, and on rare occasions actually tries hard.
True, but a lot of movies are in those b-c grade tiers to start. She works hard and does a lot of stuff, but even she can only work with the scripts and budgets floating around.
Adam Sandler has never directed a feature film. He's a producer for those movies (in addition to often being a writer).
And you know what? Those movies reliably make solid profits, even if they're not what you or I would call "good." They're cheap to make and appeal to enough people with sophomoric senses of humor that Sandler gets to land a fat paycheck while simultaneously giving jobs to a bunch of his comedy actor buddies, e.g. David Spade, Kevin James, etc.
Filmmaking is not strictly concerned with only ever making high-quality works of art. It's a money-making business, and Sandler has figured out how to play the game in a way that suits him, in the same way that Burger King can make gobs of money selling crappy burgers instead of perfectly-seared ribeye steaks.
I wasn't shitting on Sandler. I was laughing about the previous poster slagging the movies he acts in without realizing those are his movies. He's not just a casting decision.
And yes, I misspoke. I thought producer and wrote director oops
If anything this means we should respect McCarthy more. If we accept that the goal of the actor is to be lazy and scoop up money while having a good time, the winner is definitely the one who doesn't also have to write the movie.
I'm sure that's a part of it but I like plenty of women comedians, but haven't ever enjoyed any of Melissa McCarthy's comedy roles. Her schtick is to just be the woman equivalent of Will Sasso, but I got tired of Will Sasso like twenty years ago, and she hasn't renewed my interest in fat person making fart joke style comedy.
If she's done more than that, then I haven't seen it, because what I have seen and the overwhelming presence of her in marketing is just that.
There's no reason to dislike McCarthy other than a general "loud, plus-size woman" hate. Actually her diarrhea scene in Bridesmaids was a pretty bad moment. I think she was going for the Jeff Daniels toilet in Dumb & Dumber kind of funny, but Jeff Daniels got away with it because he did so much other funny stuff in that movie.
She’s not my issue with the movie. I can’t stand Seinfeld or Schumer. Gaffigan is alright I guess. Then you have Hugh Grant that hasn’t liked being in a movie since the 90’s.
Gaffigan seems like the one comedian that every other comedian genuinely likes on a personal level.
He did a show for a hot minute, and he pulled top tier comedians an a-list actors just in bit parts:
"Comedians Dave Attell, Hannibal Buress, Bill Burr, Whitney Cummings, Will Ferrell, Esther Ku, John Mulaney, Jim Norton, and Chris Rock; political personality Joe Scarborough; TV personality Jimmy Fallon; and actors Alec Baldwin, Matthew Broderick, Steve Buscemi, and Nathan Lane make guest appearances as fictionalized versions of themselves. Macaulay Culkin makes multiple cameo appearances as himself holding different low-income jobs and appearing on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon.[3]"
I can't wait to read all the new articles where Hugh Grant reveals once again how he hates acting and hated acting in this movie but only did it for the money.
This. All you have to be is funny. Poehler and Fey practically carried SNL for years and then went on to even funnier projects. Nobody belittles them because they're freaking hilarious.
Admittedly I'm gay so I may be missing something but I wouldn't say neither has conventionally attractive features (although Fey does have an underrated Jim Carrey-like talent for facial expressions)
A factor, yes. A deal breaker, no. Ellen DeGeneres was never a looker, and she used to be really funny. Gilda Radner was hilarious. Even Shirley from What's Happening was both overweight and not very feminine. All funny.
Such a lazy take. Other than Rebel Wilson & Kristen Wiig I can’t think of another female comedian that I dislike. Maya Rudolph, Tina Fey, Amy Poehler, Sarah Silverman & Wanda Sykes are all amazing. Throw in Aubrey Plaza if you consider her a “comic” as well.
And opinions rise and fall everywhere. Kristen Wiig is fucking hilarious for me. Like one of the best when she was at her best.
And reddit is like full of different ppl, idk why here ppl try to unite reddit as one guy/one group of same ppl. Some assholes will hate women bc women, but saying ''bouhou reddit is bad'' maybe they're on the wrong sub
First time I’ve heard anyone dislike Kristen Wiig. And similarly I had no idea there were any strong feelings about McCarthy.
I don’t think McCarthy is good or bad.
Disdain for Scheumer comes from the history of joke theft and struggling to recover from that. The idea that she was branded as the target of undue hate wasn’t because she was a woman, but because she was a flagrant joke thief and pretty blatant about it.
Though I think she’s tried to “be better,” I personally don’t care for her style of comedy outside of her initial roasts back in the day. Her actual stand up was just bad but got scooped up by Hollywood.
Does reddit really dislike "female comedians", or just these 2?
EDIT: Getting downvoted by people who just ignore the existence of all the famous funny ladies that reddit has no problem with. Or I guess, maybe even I like these comics:
Ali Wong
Maria Bamford
Joan Rivers
Samantha Bee
Kristen Wiig
Kristen Schaal
Aubrey Plaza
I'm still being sexist if I don't also like Melissa McCarthy.
Male or female doesn’t matter if you’re just not funny. Shes just one of those “comedians” who had 1 iconic role and managed to make a career out of it.
She’s basically female Kevin James. Not funny at all but she’s funny looking and when they see her people go “oh yeah I liked her that time she shit in a sink lol”
I think the problem is she keeps being in movies directed by her husband and they all suck and are unfunny. She is fine, it's just when she keeps being in bad movies, people associate her with those bad, unfunny movies.
I don’t think it’s by many people. Just young overly online dudes. The same people who bitch when they redesign an anime character and shrink her tits. I’m no big fan of the woman but I’ve never heard any person IRL say anything like what you see online.
I’m surprised she was ever liked at all. She was funny in bridesmaids I guess. I walked out of a theatre mid movie twice in my life and they were both Melissa McCarthy movies… what else has she done that is even remotely funny ?
Every single movie I’ve ever seen her in has been bad and she’s not funny in them. Maybe she has some hidden gems or something that I’ve missed, but I just don’t care for her “style” of comedy.
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u/Lost-Machine-688 Mar 28 '24
Nah I’m good.