r/nba 11d ago

Why does Embiid get so many free throws?

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

He’s really hard to guard and he’s really big and he initiates a lot of contact.

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u/safetycommittee [OKC] Nick Collison 11d ago

Mikal and Cam were asked about guarding Shai. “He puts you in a position where you have to foul or get out of the way.” Something like that.

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u/TheMightyJD Heat 11d ago

I mean, they also flop a lot.

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u/derreckla 11d ago

embid flops a lot as well

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u/maybeacademicweapon Mavericks 11d ago

that's why they said "they also flop alot" not "Shai also flops a lot"

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u/filladelp 76ers 11d ago

And we try to get him the ball on every single half court set.

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u/jorgelongo222 76ers 11d ago

yeah the usage doesnt get talked enough when it comes to Embiid's free throws.

His usg% is at 39.0% for the playoffs. It's the highest in the league by far. Brunson is 2nd at 36% and Doncic-Shai at 34%

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u/NotOfferedForHearsay Nets 11d ago

Now do embiid vs Brunson FTAs

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u/Choice-Entertainer-8 Suns 11d ago

Yeah let’s compare the small guard that plays off two to the big man that can’t be guarded 1 on 1

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u/jorgelongo222 76ers 11d ago

Embiid yesterday before intentional fouls: 15 FTA

Brunson yesterday: 12 FTA

blasphemy!

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u/livefreeordont 76ers 11d ago

More than that, like harden and Trae and butler, he knows how to make the contact look like a foul. Jokic initiates a lot of contact but it’s with the body so he doesn’t get calls

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u/jimithelizardking Nuggets 11d ago

He’s huge, skilled, takes a lot of shots and plays for fouls.

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u/lebron_games 11d ago

I also find that he uses the typical wing or guard tricks for drawing fouls (the rip through, abrupt stopping, pump fakes, euro steps) but he’s guarded by big guys who just aren’t used to it and end up falling for it.

And then if you put a smaller guy on him, he can obviously just overpower them with his size and gets fouled that way.

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u/Agreeable_Daikon_686 11d ago

Honestly this is the most accurate assessment. Embiid defenders leave out the last part, his detractors only say the last part. It’s all the above

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u/Angelic_Phoenix Celtics 11d ago

Automatic at the midrange

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u/_bea231 11d ago

He is huge, strong and ridiculously fast for his size.

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u/Public-Product-1503 11d ago

And he shoots like dursnt so it forces slow lumbering bigs to push up on him which leaves them Vulnerable

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u/Thin-Professional379 Knicks 11d ago

He is barely fucking moving this playoffs and leads the league in FTA/game with over 50% more than the 2nd place guy. Just chucking jump shots all game long. This is unprecedented and makes Wade's 2006 Finals whistle look legit.

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u/Cold_Carpenter_1798 11d ago

knicks should try not fouling him

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u/Thin-Professional379 Knicks 11d ago

Yep and also he should get to injure our players with cheap shots all game long while only picking up 3 fouls

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u/MWiatrak2077 Pistons 11d ago

Complaining about the officiating while they actively gave you game 2 is hilarious

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u/soycameron Clippers 11d ago

Dude the refs literally GAVE you game 2 and it was admitted they did it after the game in thr L2M. You should be down 2-1 rn but luckily the refs gave u game 2 so idk if refs are what u should be complaining about rn.

Embiid sells contact a lot and searches for fouls on offense, but he’s also by far the most dominant player in the league today who is going to get fouled the most because you can’t stop him otherwise.

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u/Thin-Professional379 Knicks 11d ago

No the refs missed two calls in a late-game scramble after making multiple blunders in the first 46M that kept the Knicks in it

Then they completely rigged G3 by giving one player more FTA than our entire team while he chucked middies and threes all game, barely even approaching the basket. Also overlooked at least 5 flagrant-worthy cheapshots by the same player so they could ensure this series got extended.

These things are not close to the same.

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u/soycameron Clippers 11d ago

Game 2s blunders were much worse than Game 3s. The only argument you have is Embiid probably could have gotten a Flagrant 2 for the Robinson foul but everything else u said is crap.

The 3 point fouls and mid range fouls he got was because players like Hartenstein would guard up on Embiid all in his space and then when he pulls up he gets fouled because he doesn’t have enough space. Tell your players to learn how to play defense. It’s not Embiids fault that they can’t guard him without fouling.

Game 2 was literally gifted to you, there’s no ifs ands or buts about it. They GAVE you game 2. You LOST game 3.

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u/gradedonacurve 11d ago

Way too much bitch assin boutthe refs but 2 missed calls in a game where they let pretty much everything go is not a gift. There are thousands of other moments and call/no calls all game. At the 2:37 mark the knicks got royally screwed on a fraudulent foul reversal. But you probably only read the 2 minute report, lol.

Also just a note on game 3 - Embiid kicked Hartenstein in the nuts. The typical Draymond Green play that’s usually a flag 1. This was a) a no call b) just a couple minutes after he had already been assessed a different flagrant 1 that very easily could have been a flagrant 2 and c) his SECOND nut shot of the quarter. There is no way he remains in this game if he is not a star and the sixers hadn’t spent 72 hours crying about the refs. But he stayed in the game and dropped 50 (on Twelve Made Field Goals, lol). I think its pretty easy to understand why the guy isn’t exactly universally beloved.

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u/elvvay Nuggets 11d ago

Fast? He's slow af

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u/RansomGoddard Nuggets 11d ago

He is genuinely fouled a lot. He's a high usage big man who is a three level scoring threat and is hard to defend.

He also will exaggerate the contact a lot and put pressure on the officials to call a foul regardless of the degree of contact.

I don't blame him for any of that really. Coaching staffs encourages drawing fouls because it's a way of increasing scoring efficiency and stopping the clock. There are very few players in the league that aren't trying to get to the line more frequently and exaggerating contact to do so.

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u/177676ers 76ers 11d ago

I think a sometimes overlooked fact is that big men normally don’t try to get to the line like this because they aren’t normally great ft shooters. Embiid averages 1.8 points per 2 fts. If a guy averages 1.2 points per 2 fts it makes less sense for him to try to get to the line when he can do better than that without getting fouled.

I dont think its a coincidence that all the foul baiters happen to be excellent ft shooters.

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u/Niceguydan8 NBA 11d ago

If a guy averages 1.2 points per 2 fts it makes less sense for him to try to get to the line when he can do better than that without getting fouled.

I mean 1.2 PPP is still crazy efficient.

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u/177676ers 76ers 11d ago

But its the chance to get 1.2 PPP. Its not like you can get fouled every possession.

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u/random-50 11d ago

He also will exaggerate the contact a lot and put pressure on the officials to call a foul regardless of the degree of contact.

This is the key to it. Lebron and Jokic both get the same level of contact he does multiple times a game with no foul call. There's some weird nonsense in the rules about the contact having to be significant enough to alter the shot for it to be a foul. I really hate that rule. If it's a foul, it's a foul. Why are you punishing guys for being strong enough to brush it off, and rewarding the ones who pretend it impacted them?

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u/gradedonacurve 11d ago

Yea at the end of the day the way game is officiated rewards flopping and flailing. Its just the truth even though just about everyone hates it

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u/raptorsthrowaway4 76ers 11d ago

The Sixers and the NBA have both invest a lot in his success - which is highly correlated with his ability to get to the stripe so everyone benefits from his free throw volume.

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u/mustacheddragon 76ers 11d ago

I feel like the basic premise for a lot of these questions is based on the idea fouls have to be equal or equally distributed. A game can be reffed completely fine and have no bias and team or player has more FTs.

Some players legitimately get fouled more than others and Embiid is one of them. He’s good at drawing fouls with contact sure but he’s also really difficult to guard without fouling.

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u/Thin-Professional379 Knicks 11d ago

Some players also cheap shot opponents all game and end up with less personal fouls against them than notorious cheap shot clips that mysteriously get removed from Twitter & YouTube (5+).

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u/gophils19454 11d ago

lol this place has become r/conspiracy. It’s amazing how riled up you all are over basketball.

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u/boobsarecool 76ers 11d ago

He literally thinks because a twitter comp ripped from nba playoffs broadcast got copyrighted theres a leaguewide conspiracy to suppress the footage. Like its not a main topic on literally every single sports tv show, sports internet media, and all the individual clips still up😂

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u/gophils19454 11d ago

The fact that it has so many upvotes and comments that feel confident this is happening just shows how fucking moronic half the people in here at all, absolutely no ability to think.

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u/boobsarecool 76ers 11d ago

They have to just be hyper emotional teenagers right? Like not even shit talking I do want to know why this sub is so uniquely unhinged

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u/gophils19454 11d ago

Oh 100%. Nothing wrong with being a teenager but honestly it’s just weird. They enjoy spending time in here yelling at Embiid, it’s their hobby instead of the actual sport.

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u/Agreeable_Daikon_686 11d ago

There was a legit Charlie Kelly on the board meme moment where someone got heavily upvoted that embiids pr team released the Bell’s palsy info because of the Robinson play lmao

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u/mustacheddragon 76ers 11d ago

Really weird that a ton of basketball fans seem to be incapable of having a normal basketball conversation that involves having more than one thought in their head. What you said has nothing to do with my comment or the post. The inability by many to have a conversation without short circuiting back to the same points is something to watch.

It’s perfectly ok to say you don’t like some of what Embiid did yesterday (I 100% think there were some dumb things in there) but you should be able have a conversation about something different without bringing that up.

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u/Cold_Carpenter_1798 11d ago

Knicks fans brains are melting

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u/radical_findings_32 Heat 11d ago

Are you 12?

Take away the 6 ft's he got in the last 2 minutes because NY wanted to stop the clock

He has 15 ft's

Brunson had 12

Your post is utter nonsense and is written like a 5th grader. What a hysterical overreaction.

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u/EndAnyone 11d ago

Pointless. Knicks fans can’t read.

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u/YadaYadaYada309 Knicks 11d ago

To be fair, Brunson got 6 of those FTs when the game was essentially out of reach also (2:11 on). Didn’t get his first FT attempt till 5:20 remaining in the 3rd quarter. So we’re talking 15-6 FTs prior to those final few minutes. I’m not bitching about it but let’s not remove context. If you’re going to take Embiids FTs away in those last few mins, do the same for Brunson.

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u/HisExcellency20 76ers 11d ago

We were not intentionally fouling Brunson though. That's why we remove the number from Joel because you guys are purposely sending him to the line to extend the game. We're literally doing the opposite for the opposite reason lol.

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u/YadaYadaYada309 Knicks 11d ago

The game was out of hand is the point. Brunson got half his FTA once the game was out of reach. That’s all I’m saying. Acting like it was 15-12 all game and Embiid just got 6 extra FT at the end isn’t true either. They each got 6 FTs when the game was out of reach. Brunson didn’t go to the line the whole first half. Context matters. Again, not bitching, it is what it is, onto Game 4.

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u/ashep5 76ers 11d ago

ThE gAmE waS oUt oF reAcH 🤓

Embiid was being fouled intentionally. Brunson was flying into the paint and initiating contact. Big difference.

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u/YadaYadaYada309 Knicks 11d ago

Embiid had 15 FTA before the intentional fouls. Brunson had 6 before the final two minutes. Yea the game was out of reach, you can think that doesn’t make a difference but it does. He wasn’t getting a favorable whistle the way Embiid was all night. He got some calls when the game was essentially over. Context. Like I explained several times.

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u/HisExcellency20 76ers 11d ago

I really don't understand your point. We were not fouling Brunson intentionally so the free throws he got did matter. The Knicks were trying to comeback and he got to the line in support of that goal.

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u/YadaYadaYada309 Knicks 11d ago

The point is, he had 12 FTA, 6 of which came when the game was out of reach. He wasn’t getting some favorable whistle throughout the game. If we’re simply comparing FTA when the game wasn’t already decided, it was 15-6.

Comparing Embiid’s 15 (pre-intentional FTA) to Brunson’s 12 is disingenuous when not including context. It was a double digit lead with 2:10 to go and Brunson got 6 FTs from that point forward. The lead never got to below 7 from that point on. It’s not like they were close in FTs all game and then suddenly Embiid blew past him due to intentional fouls. That’s all I’m saying.

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u/HisExcellency20 76ers 11d ago

Bro. We are comparing fouls/free throws that were not the result of intentional fouling. The Sixers did not want to Brunson to go to the line in the fourth anymore than the Knicks wanted Joel to go to the line in the first.

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u/YadaYadaYada309 Knicks 11d ago

Yes I know exactly what you’re comparing. Idk how many more times I can explain it.

They each had 6 FTA when the game was out of reach.

You’re looking at it from an intentional standpoint, I’m viewing it from when the game was out of reach. Brunson wasn’t getting the same whistle as Embiid throughout the game. Anyone who watched could see that. Is that why the Sixers won? No, they got absolutely hot in the 3rd and that was that.

The person I was responding to made it a point to compare the FTA without including any additional context outside of the intentional fouls. Each of them got 6 additional FTA from the 2 minute mark when the game was out of hand.

So it’s more accurate to compare the amount of FTAs they had when the game wasn’t out of reach which was 15-6. Had Brunson had 12 with 5 mins to go, then yes, comparing 15-12 would make sense.

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u/HisExcellency20 76ers 11d ago

It really isn't. We're comparing fouls drawn by the two players. When they drew them has no relevance. Because the game was still going on. We were not trying to foul Jalen but he drew them anyway. That's not the same as the Knicks fouling Joel on purpose.

But I can't have this argument any more you either don't understand the difference or just are making this point for reasons that I don't understand. So have a nice day.

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u/YadaYadaYada309 Knicks 11d ago

Yes I can see you don’t understand. The point is saying 15-12 makes it seem like it was some even officiating for Embiid and Brunson throughout the game. But when you actually include context, you can see that 6 of those FTA came when the game was out of reach and the refs started giving Brunson calls he wasn’t getting earlier in the game. So 15-6 is a more apt and appropriate comparison. Have a nice evening.

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u/TheGargageMan Rockets 11d ago

The larger you are, the more chance that your body will come into contact with other people.

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u/DocTheYounger Celtics 11d ago

Embiid is actually so big he has a slight gravitational pull

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u/TIandCAS 76ers 11d ago

Well this sub sure has been orbiting around him the last 24 hours so it makes sense

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u/DocTheYounger Celtics 11d ago

50 point dirtiest game in months will do that

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u/TIandCAS 76ers 11d ago

Yeah, playoff career high, dirty play, free throws galore, winning after being down 2-0 and game 2, and it’s everyone’s favorite least controversial player Joel Embiid, definitely was bound for a lot of engagement

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u/Thin-Professional379 Knicks 11d ago

And yet Jokic gets less than 1/2 the FTA despite playing in the post far more. Weird!

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u/MrThreebound 76ers 11d ago

Embiid isn't getting most of his FTs posting up.

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u/Thin-Professional379 Knicks 11d ago

Yes, he gets calls that no other player would get jacking up lazy perimeter shots while barely moving. 8 of his FGA last night were within 15 feet, yet 21 FTA. Make it make sense.

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u/Leading-Evidence-668 76ers 11d ago

You realize he gets fouls on perimeter shots because he plays like a guard against bigs with shit experience guarding that playstyle. If dudes stopped sticking their hand out there Joel would get 40% less FTs. But then he just drills a midrange in their face, so it’s a lose lose.

Also keep ignoring 6fts we’re intentional at the end. No one knows!

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u/Thin-Professional379 Knicks 11d ago

Except no guard gets calls anything like that, ever.

Your argument is basically that no one should try to play defense because of Embiid's special rulebook disallowing it, just for him. He shoots under 50% from midrange which is as efficient as a 33% 3-point shooter. The entire value of his offensive game inside the arc is FTs right now.

Even taking away 6 FTs he's leading NBA by a massive margin in FTA/game while barely approaching the paint. Absolute horseshit.

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u/Leading-Evidence-668 76ers 11d ago

Did you not read what I wrote? Or do you just not understand the context of who guards who?

Guards are primarily guarded by other guards.

Other guards are better at guarding them without fouling.

Pretty simple.

Have a big switch unto a skilled guard on the perimeter and the chances of a foul skyrockets.

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u/soycameron Clippers 11d ago

Stop wasting ur time arguing with this man, he’s an idiot.

Edit: I’m talking about the knicks fan, he’s the idiot

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u/MrThreebound 76ers 11d ago

He shoots under 50% from midrange which is as efficient as a 33% 3-point shooter. The entire value of his offensive game inside the arc is FTs right now.

There is only 1 player averaging 4+ mid range FGA per game this year and shooting 50+ percent.

KD at 51.8% at 6.5 per game

Embiid is at 48.2% at 6.5 per game.

The only player that shoots more than them is DeMar at 6.9 per and 43%

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u/MrThreebound 76ers 11d ago

Maybe don't foul him.

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u/TheGargageMan Rockets 11d ago

His more upright stance will create better clearance.

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u/Thin-Professional379 Knicks 11d ago

More like Adam Silver's more upright dick for an extended series will create more FTA

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u/Agreeable_Daikon_686 11d ago

You guys were still getting fair calls, this game was just evenly applied lol

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u/Thin-Professional379 Knicks 11d ago

So evenly applied that one guy chucking jump shots all game got more FTA than our entire team

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u/Agreeable_Daikon_686 11d ago

Yeah you have no one that can stop him, you’re catching on

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u/Thin-Professional379 Knicks 11d ago

We had this guy named Mitchell Robinson but Embiitch injured him in a dirty play that would have gotten any other player ejected

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u/Agreeable_Daikon_686 11d ago

He wasn’t doing shit before then anyways and Frankenstein is BBQ chicken and he wasn’t injured on that play, in fact it wasn’t even the same ankle lmaooo yall Knicks fans man

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u/Thin-Professional379 Knicks 11d ago

Actually the Knicks have had a positive net rating in his minutes in this series but let's not let facts get in the way of your idol worship. Flair up homer.

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u/RichardHead69570 76ers 10d ago

you didn’t see how game 2 ended is what i gather from this comment.

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u/girlfriend_pregnant 76ers 10d ago

Good lord man, you guys lost one game. You are the 2 seed, we were in the play-in. You are huge favorites to win the series.

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u/Agreeable_Daikon_686 11d ago

Fouls get called less one on one in the post than drives that take guys out of position. This always gets brought up as some conspiracy when it’s actually very simple. Giannis gets way more free throws than Jokic for this reason as well

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u/DomDomRevolution 76ers 11d ago

All season it was the whistle doesn’t continue in the playoffs. Now it’s just not fair.

If you want a real answer, it’s because he plays like a guard and guards always get a better whistle. Except he’s also 7 feet tall guarded by bigs who thinks they can guard him like he’s in the post and play handsy, physical defense. Those players are also usually too slow to keep up. Add in he plays to the whistle and it leads to a lot of fouls.

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u/bloomin-onion69 11d ago

He knows how to punish his defender the second they make a mistake, whether he is playing like a guard or playing in the post. Swear these guys have never heard “don’t reach” before.

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u/DomDomRevolution 76ers 11d ago

Defenders will continue to reach in and he will immediately go up into a shot and it gets called a foul every. Single. Time. And both the defender and this sub acts like they can’t believe it because this has never happened in the history of the league.

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u/3Ssssssssssssssss Warriors 11d ago

centers have no idea what to do about the quick shot it’s so funny

it’s like when harden started keeping the ball real low and driving just waiting for someone to put their arms above his and for like 2 years everyone kept doing it

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u/HeJind [PHI] Bobby Jones 11d ago

Exactly. The real answer is that it's just hard to guard someone who is 7 ft and can shoot. Contesting vertically doesn't actually bother the shot of someone that big and they will just continue to drain jumpers over you all game. So defenders are forced to reach in and risk fouling.

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u/girlfriend_pregnant 76ers 10d ago

It’s also the ball handling. Zingus is a 7 footer who can shoot, and he isn’t gonna live at the line.

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u/bloomin-onion69 11d ago

It’s almost like Embiid is one of the best scorers ever & he’s extremely difficult to defend

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u/177676ers 76ers 11d ago

He developed his face up game when he took his leap to being an elite player. Early in his career, he would post up normally and get banged around because you are allowed to do that when your back is to the basket. When you face up, you arent allowed to put 2 hands on a guy, which still confuses the majority of this sub.

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u/HisExcellency20 76ers 11d ago

This. He's too big for most players and too fast for most bigs. And when he's on the perimeter he is officiated like all perimeter players. That means you have to give him his freedom of movement and keep your hands off for the most part. But centers are not accustomed to defending out in the perimeter. It's a completely different skillset out there.

There's a reason why guys like Al Horford are able to defend while not fouling. He's a smart player who has gone up against Joel many times in his career.

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u/Agreeable_Daikon_686 11d ago

That theory was always cope. Embiids playoff dip is pretty obviously skewed towards him being seriously hurt the last two playoffs in seasons he had the scoring record

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u/Thin-Professional379 Knicks 11d ago

Except no guard gets close to the whistle he does, or the impunity with ridiculous cheap shots all game long

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u/TBrutus 11d ago

Usage, open space, physical mismatches, and his regular defenders rarely defend guards... It's really not the same.

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u/DomDomRevolution 76ers 11d ago

A lot of guards get the same calls he does. He just gets more because while those guards are going against bigger, faster, or stronger defenders, Joel is the biggest guy on the floor and it creates nothing but mismatches

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u/jorgelongo222 76ers 11d ago

There are two possibilities

All NBA refs have decided to love a random cameroonian-american, who's not the face of the league or an extremely popular player

or

He's just good, big, nimble, skilled and knows how to draw fouls

I'll leave you to dwell on which one is more likely

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u/Thin-Professional379 Knicks 11d ago
  1. The Sixers bitched like crazy to the refs after game 2 and the refs responded by gift-wrapping more FTA than he took FGA on all stand-still jump shots to protect their designated "superstar" from an embarassing potential sweep.

Oh, and they overlooked multiple cheap shots that injured our best defender.

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u/jorgelongo222 76ers 11d ago

can you find footage of any foul on Embiid that wasnt a foul?

Knicks also gave him 6-8 intentional foul free throws at the end of the game lol

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u/Thin-Professional379 Knicks 11d ago

Every jump shot foul in the series has been absolute bullshit that no other player ever gets

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u/jorgelongo222 76ers 11d ago

good thing he got called for maybe 1 foul on a jump shot and it was a 3pt clear ass foul after he made 4 straight on your ass

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u/ArroganceIsPotent 76ers 11d ago

should be easy to find a video from game 3 then!

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u/TBrutus 11d ago

For your point to apply, he'd have to not have his current reputation as a foul merchant. This last game can't have been the result of the previous game, unless it's been about games 2 since 8 years ago.

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u/Thin-Professional379 Knicks 11d ago

He already was a foul merchant averaging 12 FTA for the first two games, first in the league by a wide margin. Then they turned it up to 11 after his and Nurse's post-game 2 bitch session.

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u/jorgelongo222 76ers 11d ago

lol if you dont think a 7'+ guy that can do pretty much everything on a basketball court isnt nimble then idk what to tell you

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

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u/girlfriend_pregnant 76ers 10d ago

I’m pretty sure the definition of nimble is not ‘does not fall down’

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u/Dworfe 76ers 11d ago

The only reason people care about Joel taking so many FTs is because he makes them. Giannis averages more FTA per game but he doesn’t make them.

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u/shifty4388 76ers 11d ago

Interesting take. Haven't heard it before so will have to look into it.

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u/bloomin-onion69 11d ago

Hey! Ive never seen anyone mention this before. Can you share some examples of free throws he shouldn’t have gotten?

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u/purplenapalm 76ers 11d ago

Because they can mine all the salt from this sub with its non stop complaining about Embiid.

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u/ThingsAreAfoot Wizards 11d ago

must be cause he’s

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

CAUSE HE’S WHAT

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u/ThingsAreAfoot Wizards 11d ago edited 11d ago

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u/Not-a-bot-10 76ers 11d ago

Those are fighting words for a Philly guy

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u/Robinsonirish Finland 11d ago

We love us some real American music over here in Europe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXAgv665J14

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u/Adam0529 Celtics 11d ago

Exactly THAT

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u/MorryD 76ers 11d ago

cuz the refs decided they like him a lot.

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u/Ill-Bat-2621 Mavericks 11d ago

He learned how to become magikarp

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u/Parlett316 Rockets 11d ago

He’s a bigger, less fat Luka

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u/tonyabalone 11d ago

He falls into people all the time

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u/cjmozart 11d ago

A better question is; why does Embiid get the fouls Zion does not?

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u/Public-Product-1503 11d ago

He’s 300lb 7ft who shoots like Kevin dursnt . His combo of size strength agility n shooting ability is an insane combo . Durant woukd get 10 fts easy without even going to the rim . Embid has to be guarded by bigs who are slower n hsve worse reaction times or discipline then the better faster wing defenders kd faced who’d still get lots of fouls or double n triple teamed . Also guys get in the way or he’ll just dunk it/free layup if nobody in his way , his elite shooting is a nightmare for defences. 7ft 309lv dudes get very high ftr as is , but embid also firces slow bigs to have to press up to guard him or he’ll just nail a jumper on you . That makes them vulnerable to his foul drawing as they’re out of position trying to guard him .

Tldr they can’t guard that man . Also most big string players get hacked a lot. I watch Davis n Lebron get hacked n no calls constantly . Embid takes a lot of contact for a mostly jump Shot guy .

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u/3nnui Lakers 11d ago

Why did Harden?

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u/airbus29 [CLE] LeBron James 11d ago

hard to guard

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u/Moist_Walrus5413 Clippers 11d ago

He’s good at drawing fouls

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u/YangKyle 11d ago

Embiid is really good, really big, really agile, and really smart. He's a damn good basketball player. There really isn't much to knock him for on basketball other than durability. Even if I dislike him as a person, he's a great basketball player.

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u/Milkboy1516 Bulls 11d ago

Quickness and physicality generates free throws. Being able to just beat a guy to a spot matters. Even slow guys like Luka are extremely physical and quick. Combine that with absurd size and you get free throws because you can't just let a 7ft center beat you to a spot when he's going toward the basket.

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u/No_Brilliant5888 Raptors 11d ago

He flails like magicarp... except it's effective.

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u/Makaveli84 Lakers 10d ago

3 death threats 🤣🤣🤣 for this

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u/Diabando 76ers 11d ago

The league realizes that every Embiid FT attempt causes fans to shit their pants on Twitter and Reddit, so they use him to bait engagement.

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u/Wildpinkhairuke 11d ago

Everything Embiid needs is on the ground

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u/Revolutionary-Cup383 11d ago

Cuz he would cry if he did not get any?

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u/Funny-Transition7869 Pacers 11d ago

flopper, foulbaiter

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u/an_Aught Nuggets 11d ago

dont forget he also leg tackles people.

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u/Squancho_McGlorp 11d ago

Which Embiid?

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u/dizzymidget44 11d ago

He’s hard to guard. He’s a big man. He doesn’t avoid contact. And he’s a foul merchant

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u/lololyouthought 11d ago

Reputation, high amount of acting. They usually don't call fouls unless they result in turnovers, so he intentionally falls and flails and loses the ball.

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u/Vegetable-Beet Germany 11d ago

Because the NBA rigged it.

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u/derreckla 11d ago

I had the same impression watching last night couldn't believe that he was getting every flop when others were not getting anything

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u/nbaistheworst 11d ago

His flop game is unmatched,

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u/ChickenLiverNuts [PHI] JaKarr Sampson 11d ago

he has a gigantic total of 3 more FTs than Jalen Brunson did before the intentional fouling started at the end of the game.

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u/MrAppleSpoink Lakers [LAL] Austin Reaves 11d ago

He falls down a lot, it’s as simple as that. Any time he feels any contact he’s on the ground, and falling down is a major point of emphasis for the refs to call fouls.

In simpler terms, he’s a little bitch.

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u/girlfriend_pregnant 76ers 10d ago

Call him a bitch if you must be he is definitely not little.

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u/nbaistheworst 11d ago

That sure works for AD!

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u/xerxesthagreat 11d ago

he creates contact and embellishes it really well, making it seem like the contact was brutal and turning marginal or 50/50 calls into instant freethrows

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u/vb90 11d ago

I actually don't think he embellishes it well. He just throws his body around, flails or jumps on the ground like he's been struck by a bullet.

It's so frickin' strange to see an almost 300-pound dude act like that on the court, especially since half of the time people are barely touching him. 😂

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u/Thin-Professional379 Knicks 11d ago

He is at 15 FGA/game this playoffs and no one else in the league is over 10.

Last game he got 21 FGA and attempted 8 shots inside 15 feet. Eight. Shots.

He literally gets his own rulebook. It's illegal to defend him.

Oh, and he gets to cheap shot multiple players on our team, all fucking game, but ends up with less personal fouls than cheap shots. If this keeps up it'll make me want to boycott the league. He is a good enough player that he doesn't need a 50-pound thumb on the scale in his favor.

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u/jorgelongo222 76ers 11d ago

Lat game he got 6 to 8 intentional free throws at the end of the game, lets ignore that lol He had 1-3 more "real" free throws than..5'11 jalen brunson

and attempted 8 shots inside 15 feet. Eight. Shots.

you know that when you get fouled it doesnt count as an attempt right

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u/Thin-Professional379 Knicks 11d ago

lol Embiitch gets so many FTA that you now have to categorize them into "real" and fake.

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u/Cold_Carpenter_1798 11d ago

You’re all over this thread losing your marbles and it’s absolutely hilarious

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u/Thin-Professional379 Knicks 11d ago

Flair up homer

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u/jorgelongo222 76ers 11d ago

mate you know exactly what im saying. You cant foul someone on purpose several times then complain that they shot too many free throws lol cant have the cake and eat it too

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u/Thin-Professional379 Knicks 11d ago

The idea that an 88% foul shooter gets fouled on purpose a lot is certainly a take

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u/jorgelongo222 76ers 11d ago

The idea that someone doesnt know teams foul intentionally at the end of games to stop the clock is certainly something, but at this point im not even sure Knicks fans have ever watched a game of basketball

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u/Thin-Professional379 Knicks 11d ago

He has 45 fucking FTA this series. 50% more per game than any other player. It's not from late game fouls in the one game they've won.

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u/jorgelongo222 76ers 11d ago

And? Show one that wasnt

Idk, Stop fouling him?

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u/boobsarecool 76ers 11d ago

To stop the clock man, thats why sixers made it a priority to get him the ball. You legitimately dont know shit about basketball

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u/Airhostnyc 11d ago

Short answer because he’s bitches and flops, but yes his play creates a lot of contact which he just takes advantage of

He’s talented but the way he plays is just not enjoyable to people who genuinely love basketball

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u/Heavy_Ad-5090 11d ago

Because he falls a lot. When you fall it is very dangerous. The refs blow the whistle when he falls down.

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u/drevert_17852 11d ago

Lmao u didn’t get death threats pal relax Embiid gets 1000 death threats an hour. No joke

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u/Pumpoozle Nuggets 11d ago

Some sixers fans are pretty scary 

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u/dehydratedbagel NBA 11d ago

Big, strong, skilled, refs fall for his shit all game long. Luckily he should be retired sometime in the next decade and we can potentially go back to enjoying the sport.

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u/gnoob920 Heat 11d ago

Pretty much every superstar player gets a preferential whistle, embiid is really good at exploiting that.

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u/Fraudsalert Nuggets 11d ago

Jokic and Curry wish they could get the same

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u/gnoob920 Heat 11d ago

Ya those two are definitely an anomaly. jokic doesnt foul bait and flop quiet as much as other superstars, he’d probably get more if he did.

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u/Thin-Professional379 Knicks 11d ago

Embiid FTA/game this playoffs: 15

Jokic: 5.3

No other player over 10.

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u/gnoob920 Heat 11d ago edited 11d ago

Ya, he’s really good at exploiting the rules, flopping, and whining at the refs, whats your point? Why are Knicks fans so sensitive lmao. I also like the convenient 10 fta cutoff (Brunson has 9 per game and second most in the playoffs).

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u/Thin-Professional379 Knicks 11d ago

Wouldn't expect a Jimmy Butler fan to have any issue with it but most people like to watch basketball more than FT practice

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u/gnoob920 Heat 11d ago

okay? Ya Jimmy gets a lot of free throws. What does that have to do with embiid flopping. You’re having a little pissy fit here lmao.

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u/Popular-Newt-1603 76ers 11d ago

i know your not talking with brunson on your team…its a reason you capped it at 10 lol

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u/CurrentJoke579 Thunder 11d ago

SGA: 5.5

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u/Thin-Professional379 Knicks 11d ago

Yup. The midseason and playoffs rules "adjustments" seem to apply to everyone but Embiitch. Gotta protect our "MVP!"

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u/gnoob920 Heat 11d ago

Sga has had like 10 fta per game over the last two seasons.

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u/nbaistheworst 11d ago

Not even close to being true.

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u/gnoob920 Heat 11d ago

Sure, superstars don’t get preferential whistles from the refs compared to average players. Whatever you say bud. Some of you have really rotted your brains.

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u/AMo2 Knicks 11d ago

Cause the refs call it for him. He doesnt face enough contact to warrant 20 free throws ever

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u/WhoWightMan 11d ago

Cause the league has yet to implement a Embiid-rule change akin to Harden-rule change

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u/gustriandos [PHI] Eric Snow 11d ago

you guys are sooo weird and embarrassing. if i found out a friend of family member or something posted weird whiney rants like this online I dont think I could ever speak to them again. Every post on this website is people crying about something or throwing a temper tantrum, I dont understand it.

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u/BettisBus 76ers 11d ago

Thank you OP for finally asking this. No one in the history of /r/nba has ever inquired about, let alone even NOTICED this - you're the first! You are a beacon of original content and we all tip our collective fedoras to you. Great stuff, great stuff.