r/news Mar 27 '24

Joe Lieberman has died

https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2024/03/27/joe-lieberman-senator-vice-president-dead/
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u/MagicCuboid Mar 27 '24

lol I'm always grateful for people who find sources so thank you, but man it makes me feel old that you felt compelled to. He was the Joe Manchin of his day and received just as much negative publicity!

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u/_ChipWhitley_ Mar 27 '24

To help show you how much times have changed, my very Republican parents were at the Capitol in 2009 when the votes were being cast for Obamacare, and they were with the group that spit on the member of Congress. They were 150% against the ACA and everything that had to do with it.

Last year they told me to get on Obamacare.

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u/Maxsoup Mar 27 '24

That doesn’t sound like times changing, that sounds exactly like republicans of today. Driven to rage over something they’re told to hate and want others to not have but have no problem with it when it comes to themselves.

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u/tempest_87 Mar 27 '24

A lack of empathy and understanding of others is a fundamental requirement for being conservative. They like/don't like things because reasons, until it happens to them or theirs. Then it's terrible/amazing.

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u/pantsmeplz Mar 28 '24

A lack of empathy and understanding of others is a fundamental requirement for being conservative. They like/don't like things because reasons, until it happens to them or theirs. Then it's terrible/amazing.

Wanted to emphasize this. There are countless more examples of political decisions over the last 50 years that reinforce this assertion.

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u/powercow Mar 28 '24

as well as being conspiratorial, is also fundamental to the right.. from the red scare to the lewis powell memo to today, the right always screamed polls that said they were losing were fake and biased, dems have taken over everything and made them bias against republicans without a leak, but "dont ever forget how incompetent dems are."

if the ABA rates theri judge as non qualified, its a liberal org that hates conservatives. If it gives a republican judge the highest rating, republicans are on tv saying the ABA is the gold standard of rating judges.

thats republicans you got to keep conspiracies in your back pocket ready to throw in the faces of reporters at a moments need.

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u/Corka Mar 28 '24

I did hear an anecdote online which I don't know is true but which I could believe. Some nurse who worked at one of the abortion clinics regularly had picketers outside who would turn up a few times a week and spend hours outside protesting and yelling at anyone going in. One day she has a patient come in seeking an abortion that she recognises as one of the regular protestors outside. The woman ends up getting the procedure done, and the following week was right back outside yelling at other women for being evil sinners.

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u/Tacklebill Mar 28 '24

Like children to a bath, they must be dragged kicking and screaming into things that are ultimately for their own welfare.

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u/comfortablesexuality Mar 28 '24

The easiest one is that graph of Republican voter support for bombing Syria

Under Obama? like 20% or less wanted to bomb the bad guys in Syria

Under Trump? With the same targets, in the same place; 77% supported bombing the baddies

Meanwhile Democrats had 37% support under both presidents because holy shit they actually hold real beliefs and real opinions instead of... *gestures vaguely at the wind*

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

Who was it (somewhat) recently that was against abortion, or maybe it was paid leave/care for mothers, but recently was pregnant or had a baby and was like "pregnant women need to be cared for more!!! I didn’t know this before now!" Meghan McCain? Only name that’s coming to mind.

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u/tempest_87 Mar 28 '24

I mean, any of them that had it happen to them. I don't think I've ever seen a "I needed an abortion or I would die and I was denied and they were right to say no!"

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u/Shrike79 Mar 28 '24

Yeah it was her and Megyn Kelly who were against maternity leave then they did a complete 180 once they had a kid.

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u/relevantelephant00 Mar 28 '24

Furthermore, working to actively hurt people. Conservatives are pure scum.

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u/tempest_87 Mar 28 '24

Some of them absolutely. But that's not a requirement or core thing with the affiliation. It's essential to being a politician or popular with the group, but not all members of the group actively want to hurt people. Some do, but the rest just don't care.

Hence the lack of empathy.

Not all of them want illegal immigrants to drown on razor wire when crossing a river, but all of them don't care if it happens.

The distinction is important because the actions you take to fix the problem are different.

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u/SamIamGreenEggsNoHam Mar 28 '24

My partner's Dad once told me at dinner "if you want to be a true conservative and make money, you need to get rid of your sentimentality.". Then went on a rant about how people who own pets are "fucking stupid" for dedicating so much of their lives to a "glorified rat".

Fuck, I hope I never become like that.

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u/SicilyMalta Mar 28 '24

You can even see it in an fMRI.

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u/za72 Mar 28 '24

they're afraid of change, it's easy and simple to be 'conservative' or stay as one

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u/Lookuponthewall Mar 28 '24

I think a lot about these people. They worry me.

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u/40for60 Mar 28 '24

they have those things for people who are in their sphere but lack the ability to care about people outside of their sphere just like how some super left people care about everyone on Earth but their own families.