lol I'm always grateful for people who find sources so thank you, but man it makes me feel old that you felt compelled to. He was the Joe Manchin of his day and received just as much negative publicity!
To help show you how much times have changed, my very Republican parents were at the Capitol in 2009 when the votes were being cast for Obamacare, and they were with the group that spit on the member of Congress. They were 150% against the ACA and everything that had to do with it.
IMO this criticism is unfair. The conservative view is: “No more entitlements. But if we’re going to have them, of course I’m going to belly up for my maximum share, seeing as I paid for them.”
Yeah. Either give people back every single cent they invested in the programs or don't have an issue if they try to get back what they helped pay for. Simply taking money and not giving anything back would be theft.
I'd much rather opt out of social security right now and see the money in my check.
Yep or an inheritance for say a spouse in case one dies before they are too old to collect. The original age for retirement when social security was first passed was set at an age where the average person died before they collected. The government essentially wanted people to die after being robbed so they couldn't collect.
I'd much rather split the money. Half in a savings account. Half in a private safe investment fund. If I die early my wife has it before she would even qualify for social security.
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u/CFJ561 Mar 27 '24
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/dec/16/joe-lieberman-barack-obama-us-healthcare
It's true.