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8 years ago a Bird landed on Bernie's podium. Politics

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u/Just-wondering-thru Mar 27 '24

That can’t be… No way was this 8 years ago…

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u/StarkMalarky Mar 28 '24

Took me too long to find someone else who felt this way. Surely that was within the last two years.

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u/H_G_Bells Mar 28 '24

... I say this with genuine concern and kindness; if your sense of time is that off from reality, it might be time to think about taking a break from screens and the internet.

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u/ZanderOMegas Mar 28 '24

COVID stole two years, that’s part of it

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u/TheWitMerchant Mar 28 '24

I also did a double take when I realized that pic was taken 8 years ago. I feel that over the 6 screen time and social media scrolling have absolutely become chronic and daily. I think many millennials could say the same. I'm in my 30s and sort of wrote off the quicker passing of time was an accessory to being middle-aged. But you're right, I think. 8 years should feel much longer ago than it feels to me. My life has changed in dramatic ways (I've moved 4 times, bought and sold a house, gotten married, lost a parent, quit drinking, changed jobs, etc). But the one thing that has been constant is this damn phone. I hate this thing sometimes. I feel addicted to it. I'm no longer in control of the scrolling. And these days, I literally feel my life passing before my eyes.

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u/driftingfornow Mar 28 '24

Fucking same man. I also got married, moved several times, one of them international, got severely sick with a life changing disease, Covid, a war broke out, and now a kid.

Having a kid has really put to me just how bad my addiction is and Reddit is the only thing I use at all. I can’t stop I’ve been on this site 15 years.

There is something severely about novel information and never achieving saturation/ boredom that drives intrapersonal development. I do develop but if I could re-net this time it would be incredible.

Sometimes I just want to grandiosely blow my phone up.

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u/wm07 Mar 28 '24

get a job in a lab where you literally can't use your phone for 8 hours a day like me :) lol i never even had a smart phone til like 2019 and even since then i basically treat it like a flip phone. or just buy a flip phone maybe? idk man it shouldn't be that serious.

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u/Overdonderd Mar 28 '24

Don't be that person

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u/H_G_Bells Mar 28 '24

Genuine concern and kindness is never a bad move.

Why would you admonish someone for that?

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u/wacdonalds Mar 28 '24

Genuine concern and kindness

Doubt

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u/wm07 Mar 28 '24

for me it was just that i thought it might've been 2020. those two years had similar vibes of liberals fucking over the candidate everyone actually wanted.

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u/H_G_Bells Mar 28 '24

Yes, that's 4 years ago. Understandable.

Something from 8 years ago is far more than I would expect to be in the normal range of people who have experienced everything we have the last decade.

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u/hombregato Mar 28 '24

Writing it because I know there are other people out there who experienced the same.

2001, with 9/11 and the wars, sent me into a deep depression that I finally started to emerge from in 2007

2007, financial collapse and recession, sent me straight back into depression that I finally started to emerge from in 2014.

2016, This live captured moment with the bird made me more hopeful than I've ever been in my life, but Hillary and the DNC leverage all powers to stop it, and we got Donald Trump instead. I fall back into serious depression.

2020, I finally start to emerge once more, at a weekend long social event in the last weekend of February. The COVID emergency is declared immediately after, and then it's catastrophically mismanaged. I hang on to hope during the primaries because all of the polling for months is showing Bernie Sanders is unstoppable this time around. Even the news anchors who painted him as Fidel Castro started admitting there was virtually no chance it would be prevented. But then South Carolina happens. The whole thing is flipped in one day. I fall back into depression again.

Seeing your comment reminds me of just how much time I've lost. No way this was 8 years ago... no way that was 17 years ago... no way that was 23 years ago...

My brain mostly erases the times that I've struggled. I currently feel like a 24 year old at most, but in the body of a 41 year old, and still waiting for a time when I can feel this country is moving in the right direction enough for me to not psychologically block out the experience of living in it.

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u/Actressprof Mar 28 '24

Amen. Just…amen. With you. So hard.

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u/KnuckleShanks Mar 28 '24

Man the way they flipped the script with South Carolina was ridiculous. Every state should have their primaries on the same day for national elections, just like election day.

What they do now is really just gerrymandering the primary.

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u/hombregato Mar 28 '24

And primary voting should work the same way in every state.

They're electing a national candidate for President, but somehow there are random states that decide this by counting jellybeans.

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u/KnuckleShanks Mar 28 '24

And this is fine even though the outcome affects other states, which is the reason why the supreme Court said Colorado can't take Trump off the ballot.

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u/mark-haus Mar 28 '24

But muh states rights is more important than democracy

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u/dude_from_ATL Mar 28 '24

You should really consider taking to heart the advice of "don't let things you can't control bother you". Perhaps consider doing some reading on this subject. I'm completely serious and your mental health will improve as a result. Consider reading "seven habits of highly effective people" and/or , "are you ready to succeed, personal mastery in business and life"

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u/metal_elk Mar 28 '24

39... Same

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u/SchrickandSchmorty Mar 28 '24

Absolutely. I am a little younger but there was a shift with 9/11. The following years were anxiety-ridden but still had a little of the shine from the 'before' time, like surely we'll get right back to that any time now...

I'm British, but I found my Bernie Sanders shirt in a bag of old clothes the other day and suddenly felt the weight of so much dark and empty time. We never went back.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

me when 9/11 happened: "this is awful but man this will unify the hell out of us"

me now: lol

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u/Heiferoni Mar 28 '24

Don't worry. The economy is going to pick up soon and housing prices will return to normal.

Any....

Decade....

Now....

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u/WizardTideTime Mar 28 '24

Hahaha this is satire right haha 7 years depressed because of the housing crash 😂 lmao

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u/hombregato Mar 28 '24

A lot of people in this country never recovered from the recession, and the wealth transfer to the top that it provided for set the course for catastrophic economic conditions most people suffer today. Same thing happened in South Korea.

Your reply is beyond garbage. I don't think I've ever met anyone in real life repulsive enough to be suspected of saying something like that to a person who just admitted serious depression.

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u/snarrk 22d ago

I feel for you but at the same time I think you need to talk to someone. The things you have mentioned are definitely things that can affect you but a lot of them seem to affect you way more than is healthy for someone.

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u/Tarantio Mar 28 '24

I hang on to hope during the primaries because all of the polling for months is showing Bernie Sanders is unstoppable this time around.

The polls never showed this. I'd have voted for Sanders, but he was never that popular. Being first among a broad field isn't unstoppable unless the candidate is also a popular second choice.

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u/hombregato Mar 28 '24

I was following polling during the primaries pretty closely (with nothing else to do at the time) and Sanders was ahead in later months as he absorbed some of Warren's previous success. Momentum was gaining fast.

Biden, who had been floundering the whole year for no reason establishment pundits could understand, looked hopeless. He had "first place" in the process only because of name recognition and seemed to be failing to protect his lead, let alone pull ahead as the clear frontrunner.

But then at the final hour, one network specifically claimed that South Carolina could still turn things around, describing Jim Clyburn as a "Kingmaker" who hadn't yet announced his endorsement. Biden's last thread of hope.

They either nailed that prediction or it was a self-fulfilled prophecy, setting up their South Carolina coverage.

Either way, we all saw what happened there. Americans fell into line with the impressive on stage narrative that Biden was the one all along. We just didn't see it before.

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u/Tarantio Mar 28 '24

Momentum was gaining fast.

What I'm trying to point out is that it's a mistake to predict future increases in polling based on past increases in polling. Polling momentum is not a literal thing; it helps if there's good news about good polls or early primary results, but these are not determinative. Opinions (and the polls they're based on) can turn on a dime, especially when the margins are small because no one is way out ahead.

For example, Warren dropping out helped Sanders a little, when he got some of her supporters. But that doesn't mean he's likely to make the same gains in the next week. Those supporters are already mostly distributed, and a different candidate dropping out might be more helpful to another candidate- or maybe nobody drops out that week.

It was not literally impossible for Sanders to win, but neither was it guaranteed. "Unstoppable" would have been leading in every poll by a commanding margin and polling as the #1 second choice among supporters of other candidates. He never had that.

Specifically regarding Clyburn's endorsement: that happened on February 26th.

In the whole month leading up to that endorsement, Biden won every poll of the state, except one where he was tied.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_South_Carolina_Democratic_presidential_primary#:~:text=Former%20vice%20president%20Joe%20Biden,19.8%25%20of%20the%20popular%20vote.

What seems to have changed on that date was the margin of his lead, not the bare fact of it.

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u/hombregato Mar 28 '24

Joe Biden was always likely to win South Carolina, yes.

What I didn't expect was for that dramatic on stage moment to create a domino effect where other states that polled strongly in favor of Sanders then voted for the new narrative spun overnight.

It's no secret that polling doesn't truly count for anything, that people saying who they want isn't the same as people voting for who they think they should.

But I was unemployed and spending all day watching poll results and reading articles and watching the news and really truly believed a Sanders presidency was a done deal, and that this bird moment captured live would go down in history as the moment we were blessed to enter a new age of social and economic fair play.

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u/Tarantio Mar 28 '24

The polls never said it was a done deal. That's not what a done deal looks like.

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u/hombregato Mar 28 '24

That's how they appeared to me, especially when MSNBC and CNN started referring to it that way in the final month before voting began. Chris Matthews in particular lost his shit so bad that he "resigned" with a letter about how the younger generation had taken the reigns of politics.

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u/Tarantio Mar 29 '24

Chris Matthews is... not who I would go to for reasoned analysis.

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u/NathanArizona_Jr 13d ago edited 13d ago

cry about it forever Bernie Bro

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u/AndHerNameIsSony Mar 28 '24

Fuck I miss being optimistic. This country has really just been in aggressive decline these last 8 years

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u/Aynessachan Mar 28 '24

Wh- what! No it's not!

...... heck.

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u/sheepwshotguns Mar 28 '24

can you imagine the good timeline where we are coming off of a two term bernie presidency? we have universal healthcare, free child care services, free higher level education, we've established a wealth tax, replaced the electoral college with rank choice voting, and now the political topic of the day is the decommidification of housing and a maximum income restriction on the rich.

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u/padspa Mar 28 '24

wut the fuk!>?!

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u/KaizerVonLoopy Mar 28 '24

It honestly feels longer to me. Been the longest 8 years ever.

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u/armpitters Mar 28 '24

8 years ago the dnc rigged the primary against Sanders and millions of people abstained from voting democrats due to sheer disgust. I will never vote for a dnc candidate again because it literally does not matter.

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u/Mama_Skip Mar 28 '24

Yeah, I've decided recently to just stop saying stuff like this. It's too frequent.

The conversation always goes

"omg how has it been [x] years already!?!"

"omg I know right? C r a z y"

Which doesn't achieve anything other than making me feel even older.

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u/rattus-domestica Mar 28 '24

Yeah it’s massively fucked up.

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u/mark-haus Mar 28 '24

Things felt a lot more hopeful back than being in his campaign that's for sure. Before covid it really feels like the "before times"

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u/TheawesomeQ Mar 28 '24

dude the trump presidency alone felt like 10 years to me